Been around for too long...said things that shouldn't have been said...but all that has changedMr. Squirrel wrote:One fool reporting for duty!pmchugh wrote:BUMP- one more fool needed
this is coming from someone who routinely flames, baits, trolls and abuses things like the C&A forum... not to mention, i would hate to be blessed with your horrible grammar upon my wall... how can you comment on something you never had to deal with? i could easily see you flooding the C&A with complaints about feedback people left you. you already complain about stuff on your wall, and you can moderate that yourself!!-0colton24 wrote:i try to but now i got so many games going i forget sometimes how they played if the feedback system was still in place it would be easier cause you could put in what you thought not just little check boxes

How do you expect to leave accurate feedback for a player you don't remember?colton24 wrote:[...] i forget sometimes how they played [...]
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
yeah watever...owenshooter wrote:this is coming from someone who routinely flames, baits, trolls and abuses things like the C&A forum... not to mention, i would hate to be blessed with your horrible grammar upon my wall... how can you comment on something you never had to deal with? i could easily see you flooding the C&A with complaints about feedback people left you. you already complain about stuff on your wall, and you can moderate that yourself!!-0colton24 wrote:i try to but now i got so many games going i forget sometimes how they played if the feedback system was still in place it would be easier cause you could put in what you thought not just little check boxes
Been around for too long...said things that shouldn't have been said...but all that has changedMr. Squirrel wrote:One fool reporting for duty!pmchugh wrote:BUMP- one more fool needed
I have probably done the same. Unless someone acts like a jerk in a game I am playing, I will rate them with all 5's .. .and usually just blank it if they miss turns or such.oVo wrote:Keep 'em happy when the goal of the game is to eliminate players? heh!
Some players are very forgiving with their ratings. For instance, sanman678 and emporium both played games with a pair of cheats and still managed to give each of them all 5 Star ratings.

tamcardiff wrote:It seems that if you give a player average ratings, this is construed as negative. If you do leave that rating, the other player will hit you with a low rating, lowering your own score. I only leave now positive scores for decent players or good play, or good spirit in adversity (poor dice rolls) and don't bother with a negative rating.
So now, if I play someone who is dumb, deadbeat or plays a deferred bonus strategy, if I don't want to play them then I foe them.
When I rate films. it is exceptional films that get 5* or very good films get 4*. In CC, a 5* = a good rating and 4*= an average rating. Even then, you can only really leave a 4* rating without risking a hit on your rating.
Not quite sure what a better system would be. I guess, that if one player irritates you enough then you share it with a low rating.

With respect, this just takes far too much work and anymore, really does not tell anything because people are just too inconsistant.stahrgazer wrote:To me, a 3 is neutral. If I don't see something exceptional in the play or chat, and haven't played the person (with or against) before, I'll give a 3 or 4 for that area. If I see something exceptionally good, 4 or 5; exceptionally bad, 1. Players who've contacted me about "bad ratings" of 3 or 4, I've offered to play again so that I can see some consistent "good" which to me, rates "outstanding."
Any rating system is highly subjective, and there are those players who don't like a rating so egg up friends to go play and bombard another player with 1's.
The key for ratings, then, is not to look at the numbers, but to go further, look at rating trends and peek into games that caused individual rating outliers.
So you never find someone underrated that needs a boost?Timminz wrote:I won't rate anyone anymore. Not unless I notice that their rating is way off from where I think it should be. Then I have to do my part to bring their average down.
Not lately. With the majority of players throwing around 5's like they can win something for it, I think almost everyone is over-rated, but only a few are over-rated enough to warrant me caring.ender516 wrote:So you never find someone underrated that needs a boost?Timminz wrote:I won't rate anyone anymore. Not unless I notice that their rating is way off from where I think it should be. Then I have to do my part to bring their average down.
And this is why the current rating system has failed.xeno wrote:i leave almost everyone i play all 5's in hopes they will return the favor.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
I just noticed my use of the word 'down'. While that is the way it works, almost every time, it isn't necessarily always the case. If I play a game with someone who has a low (under 4.5-ish) rating, and I feel that they played an excellent game, I will do my part to bring their average up.Timminz wrote:Not lately. With the majority of players throwing around 5's like they can win something for it, I think almost everyone is over-rated, but only a few are over-rated enough to warrant me caring.ender516 wrote:So you never find someone underrated that needs a boost?Timminz wrote:I won't rate anyone anymore. Not unless I notice that their rating is way off from where I think it should be. Then I have to do my part to bring their average down.
So your familiar with the "old feedback system"? So you were here before? Who are you colton?............. Any way I see the rating system set up as starting at all 5 and reduced from that as needed. If a player is absolutely silent I never give attitude a 5. If the game was enjoyable and pretty mistake free game play is a 5. If there wasn't a hint of cheat or some BS truce or dirty tricks fair play is a 5.colton24 wrote:i try to but now i got so many games going i forget sometimes how they played if the feedback system was still in place it would be easier cause you could put in what you thought not just little check boxes
This is why I no longer pay any attention at all to people's ratings. I am going to stop rating pretty quick, too, except maybe newbies or, as you say, people who have pretty irrelevant ratings.Timminz wrote:I just noticed my use of the word 'down'. While that is the way it works, almost every time, it isn't necessarily always the case. If I play a game with someone who has a low (under 4.5-ish) rating, and I feel that they played an excellent game, I will do my part to bring their average up.Timminz wrote:Not lately. With the majority of players throwing around 5's like they can win something for it, I think almost everyone is over-rated, but only a few are over-rated enough to warrant me caring.ender516 wrote:So you never find someone underrated that needs a boost?Timminz wrote:I won't rate anyone anymore. Not unless I notice that their rating is way off from where I think it should be. Then I have to do my part to bring their average down.
This is another reason why the current rating system has failed. "Start at 5", you're kidding, right? Please say you were. Or are you of the opinion that "we're all winners, it doesn't matter how we did or where we finished, we're all winners"?jefjef wrote:So your familiar with the "old feedback system"? So you were here before? Who are you colton?............. Any way I see the rating system set up as starting at all 5 and reduced from that as needed. If a player is absolutely silent I never give attitude a 5. If the game was enjoyable and pretty mistake free game play is a 5. If there wasn't a hint of cheat or some BS truce or dirty tricks fair play is a 5.colton24 wrote:i try to but now i got so many games going i forget sometimes how they played if the feedback system was still in place it would be easier cause you could put in what you thought not just little check boxes
But nooo, you have to give everyone and their mother 5 stars unless they assrape you with tentacles in the gamechat and team up with everyone else to kill you off when you're down and bleeding. ok, maybe you'd give 1 star then, but my point is valid. You are misusing, possibly abusing, the rating system by giving misleading ratings about players.The Instructions wrote:The number of stars given should be based on this scale: 1 = Bad, 2 = Below Average, 3 = Average, 4 = Above Average, 5 = Excellent.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.

Oh? Suddenly it has to be a "fun & very well played" game for 5 stars, in your last post you stated that you start with 5 as the baseline and that you only subtracted stars if the other player gave you a reason for it, now it sounds like the other player has to give you a reason to rate them highly. Make up your mind, will you?jefjef wrote:Well MeDeFe. If you look I don't give all 5 stars. If the game was a fun game & very well played 5 stars. If play was poor it is reflected. Fair play as long as all was fair & on the up & up how does it not deserve 5 stars. Your attitude just got a 2. Now do ya get it? You don't rate if ya win or lose. You rate on ENJOYMENT(game play) Honesty (fair play) & Friendliness (attitude).
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
uh. what? Nothing changed. read. understand. And yes I substract stars if there is a reason it doesn't deserve all them stars. 1 star to you.MeDeFe wrote:Oh? Suddenly it has to be a "fun & very well played" game for 5 stars, in your last post you stated that you start with 5 as the baseline and that you only subtracted stars if the other player gave you a reason for it, now it sounds like the other player has to give you a reason to rate them highly. Make up your mind, will you?jefjef wrote:Well MeDeFe. If you look I don't give all 5 stars. If the game was a fun game & very well played 5 stars. If play was poor it is reflected. Fair play as long as all was fair & on the up & up how does it not deserve 5 stars. Your attitude just got a 2. Now do ya get it? You don't rate if ya win or lose. You rate on ENJOYMENT(game play) Honesty (fair play) & Friendliness (attitude).
And where did I say "win or lose" goes into the ratings? Oh, that's right, I never did.