Rat Mafia! Over.

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Oh also Will is right, it was just a gut feeling like I said last night.

[Nzen]

And you dismiss the part where I thought that CW was scum, and argued with PMC about it. [...]
I wanted to vote lurkers because lurking is a scum tell. [...] There's no chance that town is more likely to lurk as it's the opposite.
Also why did you protect LSU? Is there anything that stuck out like he was town to you, or was that just a random guess?

Fircoal, you are correct. I did forget when your 'scumdar died' after captainwalrus asked for claims. However, I based my vote on my (unintentionally) selective memory as well asencouraging voting for lurkers. Scum tells are overwhelmingly matters of (religious) faith rather than reliable results. Captainwalrus bandwagon hopped and so I voted, to my discredit. Lurking as a scum tell can fail as well. I won't convince you because we sided differently about that WiFoM. If I decide another presents a stronger case against someone else, I will switch my vote.

LSU is unwhackable because he isn't in my top three list of candidates. Nor, given whining about William18 yestrday, is he for any of you. As LSU is indisposed, he didn't seem likely to abuse the privilege either. However, immunity loosened both tongues so make your own conclusions.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Frankly I know that / or PMC is the FBI. Fircoal I am unsure of. Nzen I know is mafia as he is the Godfather. Fircoal you were actively pushing the lynch of CW yesterday even though you unvoted late. I had a vote there early on and when I read it while on vacation I promptly unvoted him as it is a very plausible role.

Wut? Why me and /?

You gave no reasons at all, and managed to get a protection for doing nothing.

I don't care to elaborate more on that at this time. I just get the impression of one of you two being the bad guys if not both. I can't prove it at this time so I won't have my vote there. I personally would like to see us either prod and/or replace all of those that aren't posting because that isn't helping us find the bad guys in this case. At worse if the mod won't replace them, then it might be worth having a few of them go down via execution style by having same number of votes.

[Suspect101]

!!!!!DeadLine Imposed!!!!!!


Monday 12:00 EST.

[Fircoal]

!!!!!DeadLine Imposed!!!!!!


Monday 12:00 EST.

what Monday?

[Nzen]

Next week at mid day, obviously.

[pmchugh]

Uh-oh there is a daed line Must reread.

[pmchugh]

Perhaps the fact you are unlynchable naturally causes suspicions against you to rise?
Then again you bandwagoned me at the start of the game then started rambling about mafia hierarchy for the next four or five pages.
I don't really have any evidence just a few gut feelings, also it's not like I only suspect you over the others here, it's just that we can't take such a huge chance at this point and kill everyone but you.

Lol, I don't think a second vote would necessarily be actually bandwagoning, but I understand what you mean.

Also, you can't build a roof without having a first floor.

Frankly, it just looks like / is going off a gut feeling.

and why are you suspicious of / again?

I'm not suspicious of /.

You just seem to be playing safe, the reason I asked / is because I had the same instict. And with as deadline approaching i'm gonig to follow up on it.

unvote vote will

[william18]

Lol, I don't think a second vote would necessarily be actually bandwagoning, but I understand what you mean.

Also, you can't build a roof without having a first floor.

Frankly, it just looks like / is going off a gut feeling.

and why are you suspicious of / again?

I'm not suspicious of /.

You just seem to be playing safe, the reason I asked / is because I had the same instict. And with as deadline approaching i'm gonig to follow up on it.

unvote vote will

So your gonna vote me on a gut feeling. That's pretty scummy, especially from the guy that kept his vote on Stroop. Like the godfather said either / or you are FBI, and im pretty sure it's you, right after you have voted me on a gut feeling.

Vote pmchugh

[Nzen]

Like the godfather said either / or you are FBI, and im pretty sure it's you, right after you have voted me on a gut feeling.

That is wrong. I never accused / or pmchugh of being FBI. I suspect you mean LSU declared them candidates.

[william18]

Like the godfather said either / or you are FBI, and im pretty sure it's you, right after you have voted me on a gut feeling.

That is wrong. I never accused / or pmchugh of being FBI. I suspect you mean LSU declared them candidates.

Opps, I guess so.

[pmchugh]

So your gonna vote me on a gut feeling. That's pretty scummy, especially from the guy that kept his vote on Stroop. Like the godfather said either / or you are FBI, and im pretty sure it's you, right after you have voted me on a gut feeling.

Vote pmchugh

How is voting on gut feeling suspicious??????? Then you made up some BS excuse about what the godfather said, when he said nothing like it.

Voting on gut instict at a deadline is not suspcious at all, in fact thats what seperates a fake tell from a real tell. Mafia isn't logical you have to follow your guts.

This is just OMGUS and your trying to bring me down with you, someone vote him before the deadline or i die too.

[Fircoal]

So your gonna vote me on a gut feeling. That's pretty scummy, especially from the guy that kept his vote on Stroop. Like the godfather said either / or you are FBI, and im pretty sure it's you, right after you have voted me on a gut feeling.

Vote pmchugh

How is voting on gut feeling suspicious??????? Then you made up some BS excuse about what the godfather said, when he said nothing like it.

Voting on gut instict at a deadline is not suspcious at all, in fact thats what seperates a fake tell from a real tell. Mafia isn't logical you have to follow your guts.

This is just OMGUS and your trying to bring me down with you, someone vote him before the deadline or i die too.

You said it before I could. There's a deadline Will, so we have to vote someone, especially when it's Day 2, not Day 1. To have a gut feeling is a reasonable reason to vote when there is a deadline, though a shaky one if there is not. There was no discussion going so his vote was good. Even still it's good to vote, because then we get reactions like yours to come up. Scum get excused and then get scared. You point your fingers at the accuser wanting to make him look scummy, and try to piece something together to get yourself saved. You were scared so you rushed it, you failed to notice it was LSU who pointed that out, on what I believe to be a GUT FEELING!

Frankly I know that / or PMC is the FBI. Fircoal I am unsure of. Nzen I know is mafia as he is the Godfather. Fircoal you were actively pushing the lynch of CW yesterday even though you unvoted late. I had a vote there early on and when I read it while on vacation I promptly unvoted him as it is a very plausible role.

Wut? Why me and /?

You gave no reasons at all, and managed to get a protection for doing nothing.

I don't care to elaborate more on that at this time. I just get the impression of one of you two being the bad guys if not both. I can't prove it at this time so I won't have my vote there. I personally would like to see us either prod and/or replace all of those that aren't posting because that isn't helping us find the bad guys in this case. At worse if the mod won't replace them, then it might be worth having a few of them go down via execution style by having same number of votes.

Read the bold, now is that a fancy way of saying it's a gut feeling or what?

So your gonna vote me on a gut feeling. That's pretty scummy, especially from the guy that kept his vote on Stroop. Like the godfather said either / or you are FBI, and im pretty sure it's you, right after you have voted me on a gut feeling.

Vote pmchugh

What's the relevance to his vote being on Stroop? That sounds like something you made up so that he looks scummier, and can detract votes from you to him. But really there's nothing there.
Now as pointed that was LSU. Skimming, another scum tell (no matter what you say Nzen it can be a scum tell, espeically in cases like THIS!) I have reason to believe you skimmed the text above to try to find any shred of argument, and picked this up. You were in a rush to post your arguments, and didn't look through enough because you don't care who's lynched as long as it's not you. The better the argument can get the freer you'll be.
And your arguments against PMC consisted of, something worthless, an OMGUS, the fact that he used a gut feeling and someone else's gut feeling. Congrats, none of aurgements are remotely good.

In light of all of this, Vote: William

[william18]

I thought the fact that pmc kept his vote on stroop was a bit scummy. Anyway, you guys pretty much nailed me on skimming. Should I claim now?

[Fircoal]

I thought the fact that pmc kept his vote on stroop was a bit scummy. Anyway, you guys pretty much nailed me on skimming. Should I claim now?

1) WHY was it scummy?

2) Even though it's only two votes, we have a deadline coming up and if you don't claim I somehow thing you'll be getting more anyway. Though it should be noted that you're kinda in a hurry to claim. Anyway I don't see any reason not to, but if someone disargges please step forward

[LSU Tiger Josh]

You might as well William because if I had to at this time I would cast my vote on you as well. I definitely did admit that it was just a gut feeling and because of that wasn't going to rush into putting them in a vote. Unless I can really prove it or it's deadline I try to keep my vote open to whoever seems the scummiest to me and you were acting scummy in regards to the OMGUS as well as skimming.

[william18]

I'm a cop. I am able to check people if they are associated with FBI. I was busy cleaning the highway so I couldn't investigate anyone.

[Fircoal]

I'm a cop. I am able to check people if they are associated with FBI. I was busy cleaning the highway so I couldn't investigate anyone.

You were busy cleaning the highway?

Fancy for saying you've been roleblocked?

Anyone else counterclaim? Cause somehow I just think he's trying to bring out the REAL cop, if there even is one.

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Isn't "cop" a bad word for us? If that is your real role name I say you must be lynched will, I'll wait for a response before voting.

[william18]

Isn't "cop" a bad word for us? If that is your real role name I say you must be lynched will, I'll wait for a response before voting.

Lol ok. I have investigative powers.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I agree cop is a bad guy here in this set-up. Although if someone that is a roleblocker can confirm blocking will then it might be worth outing.

[pmchugh]

will be away fro a week starting sunday. So i will not be able to post. If you have to, replace me.

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I agree cop is a bad guy here in this set-up. Although if someone that is a roleblocker can confirm blocking will then it might be worth outing.

I believe this part of his claim is confirmed in the night start scene

"Durring the day William18 was forced "to clean up trash on the side of the road, in an orange jumper. This will show him his cushy future in the paranoid arms of "witness protection."

Punishment from the Godfather for his disobedience. Maybe he has learned his lesson. Only the Night will tell."

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Godfather can you confirm that you assigned Will to pick up trash? If not it could've just been mod flavor saying it without any regard to being truth to the scene.

[Nzen]

I did send William18 off to the freeway. His previous overconcern for whether other players were made men aroused my suspicions about his loyalty.

Incidently, a crooked cop would be an ally rather than a liability. Unfortunately, his claim - if true - is valuable and unprovable either way. As this potential whack bears more scrutiny, I will unvote Fircoal.