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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:06 am

Iliad wrote:
Fircoal wrote:I went and calucated the # of posts for everyone besides them saying in and confirming:
/ - 3
captainwalrus - 24
Fircoal - 5 (6 Now XD)
Illy - 2
LSU - 0
Nzen - 4
Pancakes - 4
Pmc - 13
Simon - 0
Stroop - 0
william - 26


If you notice, There are 3 submariners. LSU, Simon and Stroop. LSU may be on vacation, but the other two have no excuse espeically Stroop who has posted in my game and his own. For that reason I'll Vote: Stroop for being a lurker. Also a Fos: Simon for also being a lurker.

Also these are Illy's posts:
Iliad wrote:7 pages already? I missed all the bloody joke voting. *grumbles*

Iliad wrote:Didn't realise that included the signups.

Captain walrus is acting a bit weird, I'll also chalk it up to confusion. All this guessing about the setup is rather useless. If you want to Find FBI, look at the people.


Neither of them said anything we don't know, and seemed like posts that were made just to post, not to help anything get done. The first post wasn't related to the game and the second one was paraphrased from an earlier PMC post. In a way it's scummier than scumarining as, you appear there to everyone, but you don't help out and sometimes just blend in. So Large FOS: Illy

Again / seems the same.

/ wrote:PMC seems to have pre-usurped the chain of command chain of Godfather- Capo Bastone- Consigliere then normal Head (capo), thus I can only assume he is "head" of the FBI Vote PMC.

/ wrote:It's a joke vote, sort of...
Who am I supposed to go after with will being unwhackable? :P

/ wrote:@Fircoal; The words "town" and "scum" are confusing me, so are you saying CW is not scum by giving scum tells and therefor our antagonist? Or that he's not "scum" as in scummy though the eye of a mafia by being mafia and not an informant? (Who could be considered "town" from a moral standpoint") :-s

A "joke" vote, and a question for clarification from me. Neither of these added anything to the game. Fos: / again...

Personally I put Stroop and illy on the top of my scumminess radar, but I'd like to hear from any of these 4...

Fir I think what' you're describing is the beginning of the day. I'm not going to be posting extremely detailed lists of quotes, describing why someone I think is the FBI when there still isn't too much to go on with.

I'll post a bit, and try ot get the ball rolling, and try to see how people are acting. There isn't a great deal of discussion I can create with my first post, especially on day 1


meh, you could describe more, but hey I was able to get that out of the first day, warranted it did depend on everyone else doing nothing but it's still something. I just find that you added no discuss a bit scummy, because even while it's Day 1, you can do more than just complain about the lack of being able to random vote and regurgitate what PMC said. The latter is more the part that sticks out to me. :/
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! We await the Godfather!

Postby Nzen on Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:42 am

captainwalrus wrote:vote / cuase bandawgons are good and scummy. (page 5)

unvote vote illiad because the godfather did.
I assume the usual scumtells can be used to guess who is a rat, but I can't really see anyone who is all that piggy.


While your disputed vote does not interest me, baseless bandwagon hopping does. Captainwalrus is not 'confused' any more than he was during the Princess Bride Mafia. Despite the renaming problems (day is night, mafia is town, dogs and cats sleeping together!), we know where our loyalties lie. Captainwalrus seems to have beat a deliberately jester-esque path. The game is a bit small for that "luxury" (and he has no post restriction), so I will err with reasonable hope.
I vote to wack captainwalrus
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Stroop on Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:34 am

Fircoal wrote:If you notice, There are 3 submariners. LSU, Simon and Stroop. LSU may be on vacation, but the other two have no excuse espeically Stroop who has posted in my game and his own. For that reason I'll Vote: Stroop for being a lurker. Also a Fos: Simon for also being a lurker.

Skimmer... I posted.

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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Stroop on Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:08 am

pmchugh wrote:I think we should stop this nonesense and just call the rats, scum or mafia and the mafia town. It's less confsing.

I agree with this.

I don't really have much. I would want to vote will...

There seems to be semi-good reason to vote captainwalrus, although he does just seem to be confused/excited about the setup. We've got to start whacking people somewhere, so I may put my vote on him.

Whoever I vote, I'd like to see another vote count first.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! We await the Godfather!

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:07 am

Nzen wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:vote / cuase bandawgons are good and scummy. (page 5)

unvote vote illiad because the godfather did.
I assume the usual scumtells can be used to guess who is a rat, but I can't really see anyone who is all that piggy.


While your disputed vote does not interest me, baseless bandwagon hopping does. Captainwalrus is not 'confused' any more than he was during the Princess Bride Mafia. Despite the renaming problems (day is night, mafia is town, dogs and cats sleeping together!), we know where our loyalties lie. Captainwalrus seems to have beat a deliberately jester-esque path. The game is a bit small for that "luxury" (and he has no post restriction), so I will err with reasonable hope.
I vote to wack captainwalrus

A) I have nothing to go on, so if somone else seems to think somone else is scum, then mabey they are right, so mabey we could pressure that person into acting extra scummy, which is the point of bandwagoning.
B) I was town in princess bride mafia!
C) Don't vote to wack captainwalrus.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! We await the Godfather!

Postby Suspect101 on Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:47 am

NIGHT 1 UNWHACKABLE

William18

VOTE COUNT

/ (1) - william18
Iliad (2) - Nzen, Captianwarlrus
Stroop (2) - pmchugh, fircoal
pmchugh (1) - /

Not Voting:

Stroop, simon viavant, Iliad, LSU Tiger Josh,

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Rat Mafia! Night 1! unwhackable!

Postby Nzen on Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:47 pm

Sinning Robert's Rules of Order. I unvote Iliad and vote captainwalrus. Same reasoning as above.

Addendum:
Your alignment in Princess Bride isn't at issue. I use it to dismiss the claim that you don't know what you are doing or don't understand how this game is played.

I have a personal expectation that people post their interpretation of the target's antisocial behavior. Simply piggy backing on my reasoning or anyone else's evinces either naivete or a guardedness. Naivete because the Feds can lead a bandwagon just as easily as mafiosi. Guardedness because your sole input is the vote and the Feds need to hide their actual incentives. Given your prior experience, I stand behind the latter.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:20 pm

How many feds do you think there are?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Suspect101 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:02 am

There has been 2 posts in the game in the past 24 hours since I posted the vote count.

DEADLINE 48 HOURS FROM THIS POST


That is Monday 11:00 a.m. EST.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:09 am

I have posted the most, so don't blame me.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:24 am

Argh what a short deadline!

Is it no lynch or highest votes at the deadline suspect?

Either way we need a lynch quickly. I don't think that CW is a rat, it seems unlikely. So the question is who do we go for?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Suspect101 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:39 am

pmchugh wrote:Argh what a short deadline!?


No one talking means short deadline.

pmchugh wrote:
Is it no lynch or highest votes at the deadline suspect?



Highest votes gets lynched, if a tie, both gets lynched. :twisted:
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:48 am

Suspect101 wrote:Highest votes gets lynched, if a tie, both gets lynched. :twisted:

Shit, really. stroop and illiad, claim or else
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:00 pm

captainwalrus wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Highest votes gets lynched, if a tie, both gets lynched. :twisted:

Shit, really. stroop and illiad, claim or else


My scumdar just died...

They're at 2 VOTES! Not 4 each, but 2! On DAY 1! There is absolutely no reason for either of them to claim until they get more votes. We should pick the scummier one to lynch and not just have them both claim because they both could be lynched because of a die at two Votes. This is really two scummy to let go by. You want to have 2 people out their roles because they both have 2 votes, 46 hours before the deadline. Unvote, Vote: CW

And Nzen, what happened in Princess Bride Mafia that makes you sure, you know what he's doing?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! We await the Godfather!

Postby Suspect101 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:11 pm

NIGHT 1 UNWHACKABLE

William18

VOTE COUNT

/ (1) - william18
Iliad (1) - Captianwarlrus
Stroop (1) - pmchugh
pmchugh (1) - /
Captianwarlrus (2) - Nzen, fircoal

Not Voting:

Stroop, simon viavant, Iliad, LSU Tiger Josh,

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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Nzen on Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:06 pm

Fircoal wrote:And Nzen, what happened in Princess Bride Mafia that makes you sure, you know what he's doing?


I am sure he knows what he is doing because this isn't his first game. He has played or currently participating in Winner Mafia 3; CW's 3rd party game; Experimental RT Mafia; Survivor; PMC's Newbie Game Thread; and Princess Bride Mafia. There could be more (p26 of 55), but captainwalrus posts a lot.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:10 pm

Nzen wrote:
Fircoal wrote:And Nzen, what happened in Princess Bride Mafia that makes you sure, you know what he's doing?


I am sure he knows what he is doing because this isn't his first game. He has played or currently participating in Winner Mafia 3; CW's 3rd party game; Experimental RT Mafia; Survivor; PMC's Newbie Game Thread; and Princess Bride Mafia. There could be more (p26 of 55), but captainwalrus posts a lot.


uh.... just because he's played mafia games before doesn't mean that he knows how to play. A prime example of this is NES, he played many games but never got the hang of it and pretty much always was the worse player. Another is 0ojakeo0, but he tired less.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Stroop on Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:29 pm

captainwalrus wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Highest votes gets lynched, if a tie, both gets lynched. :twisted:

Shit, really. stroop and illiad, claim or else

Yeah, no. Like Fir said, that is ridiculous.

Also, this goes beyond confusion/excitement about the setup.

vote captainwalrus
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:07 pm

Because of the deadline, they would have been lynched. Like now, I am in danger. Normaly I would not bebut now because of the deadline I am. Although, If just one person unvotes, we lynch 5 people in one day! that would be epic! :twisted:
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:13 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Because of the deadline, they would have been lynched. Like now, I am in danger. Normaly I would not bebut now because of the deadline I am. Although, If just one person unvotes, we lynch 5 people in one day! that would be epic! :twisted:

2 you skimmer. And do you really have nothing to defend yourself?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:16 pm

No, I really think that this could work. We lych all five people who currently have votes, and then one or 2 of them is bound to be a rat. It is like carpet bombing, mabey some buildings or important things get destroied, but it works. Eh...? Eh...?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby / on Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:32 pm

Are we assuming there's only one rat for now?
.....you know I actually think your right! Despite your obvious scum-tells all game, we should logically have the highest shot of destroying a cult on day one before he has any support, it will one get worse the more time FBI has for cult recruiting. (FBI Is a cult right?)
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby william18 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:50 pm

Unvote

Don't want to lynch /.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby william18 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:53 pm

captainwalrus wrote:No, I really think that this could work. We lych all five people who currently have votes, and then one or 2 of them is bound to be a rat. It is like carpet bombing, mabey some buildings or important things get destroied, but it works. Eh...? Eh...?


Your willing to do this. Im a bit uncomfortable with the idea because of the possible Worst case scenario. Then we're screwed.
/ wrote:Are we assuming there's only one rat for now?
.....you know I actually think your right! Despite your obvious scum-tells all game, we should logically have the highest shot of destroying a cult on day one before he has any support, it will one get worse the more time FBI has for cult recruiting. (FBI Is a cult right?)


Perhaps we should consult Suspect if this is possible before we contemplate whether it's a good choice.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:06 pm

Why stop at five? What if we put one vote on everyone except from nzen, as godfather he is very unlikely to be mafia and if everyone else is dead then town win.
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