Feudal Epic, L&S, Pg. 49 [D, Gp, Gr]

by **oaktown** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:38 am

It's not intended to look like a photo - it's gimil's creation and he should be able to take some liberties with the color choice. I'd say as long as the color doesn't make it hard to look at or play let the designer have the last word. After all, he has to stick his name on the thing.

by **porkenbeans** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:40 am

oaktown wrote:It's not intended to look like a photo - it's gimil's creation and he should be able to take some liberties with the color choice. I'd say as long as the color doesn't make it hard to look at or play let the designer have the last word. After all, he has to stick his name on the thing.

I agree with Oak on that note. Someone tell him for me OK. :lol:

by **gimil** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:13 am

Oaktown pretty much hit it on the head

by **yeti_c** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:10 am

Have to say though - Porks rivers look pretty damn good.

C.

by **sully800** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:40 am

oaktown wrote:It's not intended to look like a photo - it's gimil's creation and he should be able to take some liberties with the color choice. I'd say as long as the color doesn't make it hard to look at or play let the designer have the last word. After all, he has to stick his name on the thing.

No doubt he should have the last word, but the reason I'm mentioning changing the green is because I think the current version is too bright, and hence hard to look at. The green in pork's mock up is much more appealing to me, and I think the rivers look better as well. If that version is too light, you could also darken the green a bit (though I really like the contrast near the river banks). I just think that if it is not so bright playing will be more enjoyable.

by **the.killing.44** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:47 am

tbh … I like pork's green but gim's water better. I agree that it looks like a much nicer green hue.

.44

by **porkenbeans** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:12 pm

Thanx guys,
My intention was to set the water down and the land up, give it a bit more dimension. Those bevels and drop shadows can be played with to give the desired amount of 3-D. And it would look more perfect if you have all the layers to work with.
All I gotta say is, ...sweet ass map. 8-)

by **mibi** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:29 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
Click image to enlarge.

Yeah that's good color for the land. The rivers have a little too much depth, but are other wise an improvement over gimils map. Nice work! It really brings the map to life.

by **porkenbeans** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:38 pm

Thanx mibi,
Yeah I think I have the land puffed up a touch too much.
I would be honored if gimil adopts any of my ideas. 8-)

by **mibi** on Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:48 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Thanx mibi,
Yeah I think I have the land puffed up a touch too much.
I would be honored if gimil adopts any of my ideas.

I dunno, gimli's a stubborn ol' sod.

by **Kotaro** on Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:09 pm

I like gimil's better. More basic, less... ugly ass green

by **porkenbeans** on Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:14 pm

@Kataro,
Its the same green, just a little less saturated which brings out a touch more variation in the color. I.E. yellows and reds. Which is why I said it looks like the end of summer verses late spring.
what might look cool is if some of the darker shades of the original shade of green was brought back in to various areas to give it even more variation. 8-)

by **gimil** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:48 am

Does this work? I softened up to porkers green colour, and tried to bevel the river a little more, without making it look to muck like the rivers on oasis.

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by **the.killing.44** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:49 am

Maybe it could be a little less Caribbean blue, but that looks pretty win.

.44

by **Kotaro** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:35 am

porkenbeans wrote:@Kataro,
Its the same green, just a little less saturated which brings out a touch more variation in the color. I.E. yellows and reds. Which is why I said it looks like the end of summer verses late spring.
what might look cool is if some of the darker shades of the original shade of green was brought back in to various areas to give it even more variation.

I realized as such, however, yours was brighter, and I found that actually less easy on my eyes then the darker one. With the land darker and the words/numbers lighter, I'd find that easier to read.

by **sully800** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:59 am

Well I guess you can't please everyone. I think the latest version is much more appealing, and looks a lot more realistic. Perhaps you could continue to adjust the water a bit as .44 said, but I'm not sure it is necessary. I really like the new greens, and I think there is much more variation in the land which is nice. Plus, I can look at it for more than a couple of seconds straight

Keep up the good work!

by **porkenbeans** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:06 am

by **gimil** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:03 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:Maybe it could be a little less Caribbean blue, but that looks pretty win.

.44

I've decided to stick with the med blue to hold some relation to the old Feudal.

by **gimil** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:04 pm

gimil wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:Maybe it could be a little less Caribbean blue, but that looks pretty win.

.44

I've decided to stick with the med blue to hold some relation to the old Feudal.

Kudos to porken for this help.

by **the.killing.44** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:22 pm

gimil wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:Maybe it could be a little less Caribbean blue, but that looks pretty win.

.44

I've decided to stick with the med blue to hold some relation to the old Feudal.

Well yeah, I like that idea of the carry-over. But the Feudal blue seems more of a grayish-blue variety, against this one.

I'm not saying you should make it exactly the same, but a lighter/grayer version of what you have now would be nice.
.44

by **gimil** on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:26 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:
gimil wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:Maybe it could be a little less Caribbean blue, but that looks pretty win.

.44

I've decided to stick with the med blue to hold some relation to the old Feudal.

Well yeah, I like that idea of the carry-over. But the Feudal blue seems more of a grayish-blue variety, against this one.

I'm not saying you should make it exactly the same, but a lighter/grayer version of what you have now would be nice.
.44

I don't think a lighter less saturated version will fit the overall colour scheme. I am happy with what I have just now.

by **oaktown** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:26 am

The only concern seems to be the green, and since I'm no color expert I'll leave it to gimil/popular opinion. Let's give folks another day or three to comment and then we can push this map up the ladder. :mrgreen:

by **thenobodies80** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:38 pm

With gimil...green is ok.

by **porkenbeans** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:06 pm

This map is looking GOOD. If you are going to make any more changes, I would suggest that you work on its weaker points. ( and I'm really nit-picking here).
1.) The text could be a little more crisp. ( kinda on the fuzzy side).
2.) could stand to be brightened up just a bit more. ( not that it is too dark, but approaching it).
I really like how the texture of the trees and such have been brought out, especially in the middle of the map. Would not hurt to see more of that.

As far as I am concerned, This new Feudal is better than most maps, and is ready for play!