why do people think legal scripts are cheating?

[Woodruff]

CM is not a cheat. In fact many of the seq players use it also. It just does not have the same effect as in Freestyle. So what happens when lack adds in into the site? All you still going to be calling it a cheat?

Clickable Maps certainly aren't a cheat. That being said...

I don't play freestyle...I hate it. But even more than that, I hate Clickable Maps. I tried it a while ago, and just did not enjoy using it.

So if lackattack adds it to the site, I sincerely hope he's going to still make it OPTIONAL...I'd hate to have to go play at another site simply because Clickable Maps was added without the ability to opt-out of it.

[Georgerx7di]

If your not playing freestyle clickies doesn't even help you. I got it because I played a little freestyle, now I'm just used to it. I hardly play freestyle except for the speed ass doodle I was playing, and everyone in those games had it so no one was surprised. Most of my games now are seq., but I would hate to have to go back to different controls now that im used to this.

On a lighter note, one time I beat a guy in a fog game. He asked how I had so many more armies than him, so I told him that I bought extra armies off of lack before the game. He went to C&A and accused me of cheating : )

[a.sub]

If your not playing freestyle clickies doesn't even help you. I got it because I played a little freestyle, now I'm just used to it. I hardly play freestyle except for the speed ass doodle I was playing, and everyone in those games had it so no one was surprised. Most of my games now are seq., but I would hate to have to go back to different controls now that im used to this.

On a lighter note, one time I beat a guy in a fog game. He asked how I had so many more armies than him, so I told him that I bought extra armies off of lack before the game. He went to C&A and accused me of cheating : )

could you link me?
that sounds like an AMAZING READ

[flexmaster33]

yet another reason to avoid freestyle...

Most who don't play freestyle just want to stay away from these kind of gimmicks

[AndyDufresne]

Ideally, instead of constantly ferrying new users to scripts and addons, I'd rather just see Clickable Maps a feature of the website. I think that would solve a number of problems, and would make for an overall more enjoyable website and game play experience for a number of users.


--Andy

[Woodruff]

Ideally, instead of constantly ferrying new users to scripts and addons, I'd rather just see Clickable Maps a feature of the website. I think that would solve a number of problems, and would make for an overall more enjoyable website and game play experience for a number of users.
--Andy

As I said, as long as it's an OPTION on the website, and not a REQUIREMENT.

[JColeman]

thinking about it. although im not a very experienced user, i have noticed a divide with freestyle and sequential. i think it would be a really cool idea to have 2 separate leader boards for sequential and freestyle, then you can see how you rank up in both?

good idea?

[KoE_Sirius]

no the last guy was a captain with 1400 completed games

Well he is a big n00b then.Since when did Captain become exempt from the title of n00b ?

[Georgerx7di]

Ok, by request, here is the link. Hope it works. viewtopic.php?f=239&t=69771&start=0&hilit=Georgerx7di&p=1697370&view=show#p1697370

[Robinette]

thinking about it. although im not a very experienced user, i have noticed a divide with freestyle and sequential. i think it would be a really cool idea to have 2 separate leader boards for sequential and freestyle, then you can see how you rank up in both?

good idea?

not a good idea...


















IT'S A GREAT IDEA

[JimRocky]

I figure the reason they consider it cheating because they are unwilling or unable to invest the time and energy required to make use of the same tools for themselves. Simply put, too busy and/or lazy, or they don't know how. Even those that feel they might lack the know how could probably mostly get it done, with help, if they put forth the effort to make it happen.

Well, my computer cannot take firefox and I don't currently have the funds for a new one. I have bought a premium here on CC, but I think if I had to face a bunch of folks like you who used tools not available to me, then I would not have joined.

What kind of computer "cannot take Firefox"? Some old Apple or what? AFAIK If it can take IE it can take Firefox. I could be wrong. At any rate this will be a rare exception, and not really part of the issue.

[PLAYER57832]

thinking about it. although im not a very experienced user, i have noticed a divide with freestyle and sequential. i think it would be a really cool idea to have 2 separate leader boards for sequential and freestyle, then you can see how you rank up in both?

good idea?

This has been discussed in other threads. I cannot find the link (not worth my time to look) and have no idea if it will or will not happen. Try checking the "pending ideas" thread to see if there is anything mentioned, if you are curious.

[PLAYER57832]

I figure the reason they consider it cheating because they are unwilling or unable to invest the time and energy required to make use of the same tools for themselves. Simply put, too busy and/or lazy, or they don't know how. Even those that feel they might lack the know how could probably mostly get it done, with help, if they put forth the effort to make it happen.

Well, my computer cannot take firefox and I don't currently have the funds for a new one. I have bought a premium here on CC, but I think if I had to face a bunch of folks like you who used tools not available to me, then I would not have joined.

What kind of computer "cannot take Firefox"? Some old Apple or what? AFAIK If it can take IE it can take Firefox. I could be wrong. At any rate this will be a rare exception, and not really part of the issue.

Try not all of us have computers we bought in the past 2 years (yeah, I know that is a strange concept). This is particularly true for us "older" members, who, though we don't always come here in the forums are often premium. Technically, I can use Firefox, but it causes a lot of problems with many programs I need to use all the time. Even so, I don't have the space on my computer for those add-ons. Just accepting the automatic update of Explorer 8 caused my computer to crash. Luckily they had free support. It took the technician over 3 hours to clear my computer.

There are 2 levels of CC membership. Paid/premium and unpaid/"freemium". Having these add-ons effectively creates another, completely unofficial, level of membership. I don't get hung up on points and don't play freestyle any longer for other reasons, but that this give some people an advantage that others, even paid members do not have just does not seem right.

[trinicardinal]

I don't get the arguments.... It's a legal script... I see cheating as breaking the rules, but the rules allow it. It is an advantage but it is no different than someone having an advantage because their internet speed is higher...

Does that mean that a person who has a high speed connection playing against someone who has a dial-up connection is cheating because they can move faster? Of course not! I don't use CM but I don't see it as cheating either.

[demonfork]

I don't get the arguments.... It's a legal script... I see cheating as breaking the rules, but the rules allow it. It is an advantage but it is no different than someone having an advantage because their internet speed is higher...

Does that mean that a person who has a high speed connection playing against someone who has a dial-up connection is cheating because they can move faster? Of course not! I don't use CM but I don't see it as cheating either.

Seems simple enough eh? For some reason your logic defies a lot of people. Maybe it has to do with being dropped on their heads as infants.

[trinicardinal]

I don't get the arguments.... It's a legal script... I see cheating as breaking the rules, but the rules allow it. It is an advantage but it is no different than someone having an advantage because their internet speed is higher...

Does that mean that a person who has a high speed connection playing against someone who has a dial-up connection is cheating because they can move faster? Of course not! I don't use CM but I don't see it as cheating either.

Seems simple enough eh? For some reason your logic defies a lot of people. Maybe it has to do with being dropped on their heads as infants.

The result of someone being dropped on his/her head as an infant

Ok, by request, here is the link. Hope it works. viewtopic.php?f=239&t=69771&start=0&hilit=Georgerx7di&p=1697370&view=show#p1697370