who was the greatest american president

[neanderpaul14]

To say that one is better than the other is folly.

You forgot to say "unless we are talking about Bush or Hoover."

[notyou2]

Any president that could make up new words each and every day has to be a smart man, therefore, George W Bush is the smartest president ever, hands down.

Pardon me?

Oh, greatest president....scuse me

[Captain_Scarlet]

Any president that could make up new words each and every day has to be a smart man, therefore, George W Bush is the smartest president ever, hands down.

Pardon me?

Oh, greatest president....scuse me

you forgot vice pres Dan Quayle notyou2

but why isn't Clinton on the poll for greatest amercian president ?

[neanderpaul14]

Any president that could make up new words each and every day has to be a smart man, therefore, George W Bush is the smartest president ever, hands down.

Pardon me?

Oh, greatest president....scuse me

I sure do miss all those witty Bushisms as do so many comedians. Of course that's all I miss about him.

And we managed to get rid of him with only 2 wars. I sure thought he was gonna hit Iran on his way out.

[SultanOfSurreal]

historians generally agree that the war did not become truly global until hitler invaded poland. certainly not before the signing of the tripartite pact.

Yes... fascinating.

don't crib off of me you jerkazoid

anyway, "yes fascinating" is better suitied to long missives, not 20 word assertions. consider a simple lol next time

Hey man, you treat people like shit, I treat you like shit. Think of me as the comeuppance.

i don't care what you say to me dude in fact i gave you some pretty primo advice on how to more effectively insult me

i do this because i know at the end of the day we are still bffs <333

[thegreekdog]

historians generally agree that the war did not become truly global until hitler invaded poland. certainly not before the signing of the tripartite pact.

Yes... fascinating.

don't crib off of me you jerkazoid

anyway, "yes fascinating" is better suitied to long missives, not 20 word assertions. consider a simple lol next time

Hey man, you treat people like shit, I treat you like shit. Think of me as the comeuppance.

i don't care what you say to me dude in fact i gave you some pretty primo advice on how to more effectively insult me

i do this because i know at the end of the day we are still bffs <333

Yeah, it is certainly fun. My work efficiencies have gone down significantly since I started posting here.

[SultanOfSurreal]

so here is something interesting i come across from time to time

[strike wolf]

Gerald Ford. Just to throw a random one out.

[thegreekdog]

so here is something interesting i come across from time to time

Yeah, that's bad news. That's why so many Republicans became disillusioned.

I was a Republican, switched parties in about 2003 I think (to Libertarian). I can't deal with the Republican social platform, and they ain't economically conservative anymore... that's why I switched.

In any event, I want to see that graph again in four years, slightly modified, to account for the current administration. Then, I would like to see you, Sultan, discuss President Obama's contribution to the national debt.

[PLAYER57832]

One problem about a lot of judgements about presidents and their economic impacts, etc. is that the results of a president often don't become apparent until after that president leaves, if not even later.

For example, much of the current loan debacle is because of deregulation previously, as well as failures to implement protections (regulating those securities, for example). In some cases, the previous president could have fixed things, but not always.

If nothing else, the end of 8 years is definitely more indicative of that president than those who only had 4 year terms.

[JJM]

It is a fact that every President since FDR not counting FDR himself has added to the national debt.

[StiffMittens]

It is a fact that every President since FDR not counting FDR himself has added to the national debt.

No it isn't.

[JJM]

It is a fact that every President since FDR not counting FDR himself has added to the national debt.

No it isn't.

Yes it is I know my facts.

[Jennybh]

I'd say Lincoln was pretty good. Its interesting that most people now seem to think he is the best. I heard he was bashed a lot and disliked in his own time.

[notyou2]

I'd say Lincoln was pretty good. Its interesting that most people now seem to think he is the best. I heard he was bashed a lot and disliked in his own time.

Lincoln did some pretty controversial things, like freeing the slaves, so whenever there are controversial decisions/policy, then there will be dissension and hatred.

[StiffMittens]

It is a fact that every President since FDR not counting FDR himself has added to the national debt.

No it isn't.

Yes it is I know my facts.

No you don't. Eisenhower decreased the national debt. Look it up.

[JJM]

It is a fact that every President since FDR not counting FDR himself has added to the national debt.

No it isn't.

Yes it is I know my facts.

No you don't. Eisenhower decreased the national debt. Look it up.

When Eisenhower took office we were $275,168,120,129 dollin debt when he left office we were $296,168,761,215 in debt.

[notyou2]

I wonder how much the interest and the inflationary adjustment have been over those same 4 years??????

[StiffMittens]

It is a fact that every President since FDR not counting FDR himself has added to the national debt.

No it isn't.

Yes it is I know my facts.

No you don't. Eisenhower decreased the national debt. Look it up.

When Eisenhower took office we were $275,168,120,129 dollin debt when he left office we were $296,168,761,215 in debt.

Ooops. My bad. I guess he only reduced it in his first term:

1953 275,168,120,129.39
1957 274,897,784,290.72

[JJM]

He was a good president but I think it went up do to the costs of the Korean War.

[jonka]

Jackson, How would you feel if The US was one third of its current size? or if you had to be rich to vote? or all the advisor's would not be changed with a new party taking office?

[jonesthecurl]

Hmm. Don't like the middle one.
Then again they don't let me vote here anyway, so I could live with that.

[JJM]

Look so far two people have voted for the devil. Andrew Jackson. Who. How can you people admire an Indian Killer and most ridiculos of all how can you admire a crook. I hate Andrew Jackson more than any other preisident. He was a freak.

[neanderpaul14]

Look so far two people have voted for the devil. Andrew Jackson. Who. How can you people admire an Indian Killer and most ridiculos of all how can you admire a crook. I hate Andrew Jackson more than any other preisident. He was a freak.

Do you mean Native American killer?

[JJM]

Look so far two people have voted for the devil. Andrew Jackson. Who. How can you people admire an Indian Killer and most ridiculos of all how can you admire a crook. I hate Andrew Jackson more than any other preisident. He was a freak.

Do you mean Native American killer?

Yes.