world 2.2

[the.killing.44]

I don't really like it, nor the idea of distorting them.

.44

[sailorseal]

I say call this Jigsaw World

[LED ZEPPELINER]

i just don't think this is going to work, some people might like it, but others wont, and if you adress some peoples needs then other popele will wan thtings changed

[sailorseal]

i just don't think this is going to work, some people might like it, but others wont, and if you adress some peoples needs then other popele will wan thtings changed

Can you please reiterate?

[porkenbeans]

I don't really like it, nor the idea of distorting them.

.44

I do not like distorting them either, but this is a possible solution to fitting in all the countries. And since this is a "political" map, and not a geological one, ...it might fly.

[miniwally]

this is a political map why was i not warned?

[john9blue]

This is the only way I could fit all the countries on an 830x800 map. I did the area with the greatest country density (West Africa). Think the mods will let that fly, or do we need a minimap? I already put one for Europe.

[porkenbeans]

This is the only way I could fit all the countries on an 830x800 map. I did the area with the greatest country density (West Africa). Think the mods will let that fly, or do we need a minimap? I already put one for Europe.

Yeah, I thought of doing that, but I dismissed it, because, it is just so unattractive, and very confusing for game play. However, it does solve the problem.

The idea of a World map with ALL of the countries, is indeed a very good one, It would be the CC map, with the most territories. It would serve this map well to be the largest map that we have. I invite others to join my lobby to the mods, to lift the size restriction for this project, and announce a contest to develop a World map that includes ALL of the countries.

[miniwally]

maybe we should all just work together john and you are doing well with ideas of how to achieve this. and of course I have been a great help XD J/K

[ustus]

ok, this looks like progress....

instead of trying to lift size restrictions "cuz it won't work" lets try to do one of the suggestions so far and post the smallest image you can make. Personally, i like the idea John9Blue suggested, i think it could easily be made graphically appealing. John, unless you want to do graphics, how about you pass a copy of the world with that style for the lable on each country (whenever you get the time, i realize it's quite a feat to label so) and have Porkenbeans take a shot at making it look a little prettier. I'm impressed with what i've seen from pork so far, and we have a lot of people interested in this idea. However, with the number of people interested, the organization seems to be slipping appart..

Can i get a list of who wants to do what? i don't have any map-making skills, so all i'd be doing is critiqueing (and maybe organizing, i kind of enjoy giving orders )

I know John has ideas for how to fit it and Pork wants to do graphics. do we have anyone for XML? Also, John, the actual method you've used here is your idea. do you want to just do the map yourself? you obviously have a lot of support here, and i'm sure the people in this forum would happily comment on your map and quibble over whether little details are done correctly...

[porkenbeans]

Ustus, I do not have that much interest in creating the gameplay as such. I am more interested in just doing the artwork. I will be spending my time on this, palau and another map that is for the time being, not being announced. However you guys decide which way to go with this project, I will be waiting in the wings to render the graphics.

I would suggest that someone do the research and find out just how many countries there actually are. Which is the smallest, the Vatican maybe ?

[miniwally]

Vatican City - 0.2 square miles - The world's smallest state, the Vatican has a population of 770, none of whom are permanent residents. The tiny country which surrounds St. Peter's Basilica is the spiritual center for the world's Roman Catholics (over 1 billion strong). Also known as the Holy See, Vatican City is surrounded by Rome, Italy.

Monaco - 0.7 square miles - The tiny state of Monaco lies along the French Riviera on the French Mediterranean coast near Nice. An impressive 32,000 people live in this state known for its Monte Carlo casinos and Princess Grace. It has been independent off-and-on since the 13th century.

Nauru - 8.5 square miles - The 13,000 residents of the Pacific island Nauru rely on diminishing phosphate deposits. The state became independent in 1968 and was formerly known as Pleasant Island.

Tuvalu - 9 square miles - Tuvalu is composed of 9 coral atolls along a 360 mile chain in Polynesia. They gained independence in 1978. The former Ellice Islands are home to 12,000.

San Marino - 24 square miles - Located on Mt. Titano in north central Italy, San Marino has 29,000 residents. The country claims to be the oldest state in Europe, having been founded in the fourth century.

Liechtenstein - 62 square miles - This microstate of 34,000 is located on the Rhine River between Switzerland and Austria in the Alps.

Marshall Islands - 70 square miles - The atolls (including the world's largest, Kwajalein), reefs, and 34 islands (population 58,000) gained independence in 1986; they were formerly part of the Trust Territory of Pacific Islands (and administered by the United States).

Saint Kitts and Nevis - 104 square miles - This Caribbean country of 39,000 gained independence in 1983. Nevis is the smaller island of the two and is guaranteed the right to secede.

Seychelles - 107 square miles - The 81,000 residents of this Indian Ocean island group have been independent of the United Kingdom since 1976.

Maldives - 115 square miles - Only 200 of the 2000 Indian Ocean islands which make up this country are occupied by 340,000 residents. The islands gained independence from the U.K. in 1965.

Malta - 122 square miles - This island is just south of the Italian island of Sicily. It became independent from the United Kingdom in 1964 and the British military were completely gone by 1979. The population is 400,000.

Grenada - 133 square miles - This Caribbean country (population 90,000) became independent of the U.K. in 1974. It's located quite close to Venezuela.

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - 150 square miles - 117,000 people live on these Windward Caribbean islands which gained independence from Britain in 1979.

Barbados - 166 square miles - About 280,000 people live on this Caribbean island, the farthest east of the Lesser Antilles. Barbados obtained independence from the U.K. in 1966.

Antigua and Barbuda - 171 square miles - This Caribbean nation of 69,000 has been independent from the United Kingdom since 1981. The three islands which compose this country rely on tourism (as do many of the Caribbean countries and territories).

Andorra - 180 square miles - The independent Principality of Andorra is co-governed by the President of France and the Spain's Bishop of Urgel. With just over 70,000 people, this mountainous tourist destination tucked in the Pyrenees between France and Spain has been independent since 1278.

Palau - 191 square miles - Palau (also known as Belau) was a Trust Territory of Pacific Islands. It was formerly known as the Carolines and is composed of more than 200 islands in the Pacific; the population is about 20,000. It became independent in 1994.

[porkenbeans]

Damn son, lol.
So those are the smallest in order ?
Did you happen to find out how many all together ?
Can a world map that is all inclusive be achieved with the current restrictions ?
Can The answer to this riddle be found ?
Have I asked too many questions ?

From your last post, I can conclude that you like to answer questions,

[miniwally]

Damn son, lol.
So those are the smallest in order ? Yes smallest top
Did you happen to find out how many all together ? They're the 17 smallest countries
Can a world map that is all inclusive be achieved with the current restrictions ?
Can The answer to this riddle be found ?
Have I asked too many questions ?

From your last post, I can conclude that you like to answer questions,

[porkenbeans]

Damn son, lol.
So those are the smallest in order ? Yes smallest top
Did you happen to find out how many all together ? They're the 17 smallest countries
Can a world map that is all inclusive be achieved with the current restrictions ?
Can The answer to this riddle be found ?
Have I asked too many questions ?

From your last post, I can conclude that you like to answer questions,

How many countries in all ?

[john9blue]

I just did UN countries. Vatican City is an exception in that it's a "permanent observer" of the UN but isn't an actual member. I suspect they don't want to get involved in world politics.

[miniwally]

Damn son, lol.
So those are the smallest in order ? Yes smallest top
Did you happen to find out how many all together ? They're the 17 smallest countries
Can a world map that is all inclusive be achieved with the current restrictions ?
Can The answer to this riddle be found ?
Have I asked too many questions ?

From your last post, I can conclude that you like to answer questions,

How many countries in all ?

apparently 195

[Dublanous1]

Hmm... I don't really like the idea, having two worlds like 2.1 and 2.2, but I think there should be a "classic" map or some original standard map, and 2.1 is the closest thing we have to it, It's my favorite map so far because it is just original, it seems like a new map is realesed every day.

[porkenbeans]

Hmm... I don't really like the idea, having two worlds like 2.1 and 2.2, but I think there should be a "classic" map or some original standard map, and 2.1 is the closest thing we have to it, It's my favorite map so far because it is just original, it seems like a new map is realesed every day.

Is someone trying to stop you from playing your favorite map ?

[miniwally]

pork change title of thread to world 3.0

[porkenbeans]

How about just, World Map ?

[miniwally]

Complete World Map would work

[ustus]

"complete world map" is a good working title, but it doesn't have quite the ring to it to have it be the map title. I'm thinking maybe "the world of 2009" or "the political world" or "real world" something like that, it needs a bit of a ring of poeticness to it, so that the name flows and people think "that sounds nice" but it also needs to say what the map is. If we're aiming for a centerpiece map, it needs to have a centerpiece name....

or am i just crazy? i'd be fine with that...

as is, i knew that was what you wanted to do, pork, and it looks like miniwally wants to do research (or is willing to, either way) no response from John9blue that i know of, since it's his idea to put the infocard style thingees for each country, i think we should at least hear from him before we use that....

and am i even involved with this at all beyond coming in here and bossing you all around ? do you want me to just leave you all to it? you all seem to have some idea what you're doing, whereas i'm just looking at what i think needs done and delegating... i'm willing to help however you need me to. even if that can be summarized by the phrase "shut up and watch"...

[john9blue]

and am i even involved with this at all beyond coming in here and bossing you all around ? do you want me to just leave you all to it? you all seem to have some idea what you're doing, whereas i'm just looking at what i think needs done and delegating... i'm willing to help however you need me to. even if that can be summarized by the phrase "shut up and watch"...

I've been reading but keeping quiet because I didn't think those cards looked very good. What I was thinking about doing was just putting country abbreviations there and having an alphabetical listing of countries and army shadows on the bottom with their corresponding abbreviations.

Also, all ideas are welcome, stick around.

[porkenbeans]

Or maybe change the whole border layout and call it World 2109 A.D.
Then we can create our own countries and borders to represent a world 100 years from now.

Or call it World 1000 B.C. We can then represent all the earths early tribes of man.