[Forum] Usergroup Leader Powers

[Optimus Prime]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

[blakebowling]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Potential mess? Just don't give them the power to move threads or Change Posters (which only admins can do now). And no announcement posting power.

[Kotaro]

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

The only thing they would have power over is there own private forums, which, as leaders, should be their rights to do so. And why would leaders use their powers badly? That'd just lose them members.

[jpcloet]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Hopefully that includes me.....

[Optimus Prime]

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

The only thing they would have power over is there own private forums, which, as leaders, should be their rights to do so. And why would leaders use their powers badly? That'd just lose them members.

You would be surprised, Kotaro, you would be incredibly surprised at what stupid things can happen when people are given new buttons to push at their own fancy.

[Optimus Prime]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Potential mess? Just don't give them the power to move threads or Change Posters (which only admins can do now). And no announcement posting power.

What about editing posts even if it's just to be funny? Merging threads, deleting threads, splitting threads. It can all be abused, and WILL be at some point. I promise it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the ability to do a little spring cleaning in the G1 forum, but I don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

[blakebowling]

As the board is now phpBB 3.0.3, moderators can only see logs for forums that they moderate. I guess all that's left to do is grant privelages to the leaders.

Unless Lack and Twill don't feel that the clan leaders can use the power responsibly. Which, to be honest, I can think of only 3 or 4 clan leaders who would be guaranteed to use the power properly. They have to decide if they really want the potential mess it could create on their hands.

Potential mess? Just don't give them the power to move threads or Change Posters (which only admins can do now). And no announcement posting power.

What about editing posts even if it's just to be funny? Merging threads, deleting threads, splitting threads. It can all be abused, and WILL be at some point. I promise it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the ability to do a little spring cleaning in the G1 forum, but I don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

Right, they could totally f*ck up their own forum, but, its their forum. I say, let them do with it what they wish.

[nagerous]

Blake has a point, if people want to abuse and mess around with their own usergroups, they'll just lose out in the long run.

[AndyDufresne]

I've notified Lack about the topic. I know he wants to increase clan membership and begin working on more clan specific things, so perhaps this is a good first step in that direction. He'll most likely review it over the next couple of days. We'll see...


--Andy

[GrimReaper.]

haza

[blakebowling]

I've notified Lack about the topic. I know he wants to increase clan membership and begin working on more clan specific things, so perhaps this is a good first step in that direction. He'll most likely review it over the next couple of days. We'll see...


--Andy

I had a discussion with lack as well, after fixing the problem of Leaders being able to view IP's he said this would probably be waiting until January, when Twill returns from vacation.

[blakebowling]

I've notified Lack about the topic. I know he wants to increase clan membership and begin working on more clan specific things, so perhaps this is a good first step in that direction. He'll most likely review it over the next couple of days. We'll see...


--Andy

I had a discussion with lack as well, after fixing the problem of Leaders being able to view IP's he said this would probably be waiting until January, when Twill returns from vacation.

I'm going to bump this as it's been a while and I really want this done.

[sailorseal]

Yes, Yes Yes, Yes!!!!
I have wanted this ever since I became a clan leader

[ManBungalow]

Keep this bumped and stick a poll on it

[lanyards]

Yeah, this is completely necessary.
But I don't think a poll is, who would not want this?
I guess I'll have one just to show how many people want it then.

[sailorseal]

Please, Please, Please.
This would make my life sooooooooooooo much easier

[owenshooter]

Please, Please, Please.
This would make my life sooooooooooooo much easier

yeah, you've had to deal with clan issues for what, all of a week? if that? i can only imagine how chock-full-o dead threads your forum is, and how many times you've had to stay up creating private games for in-clan battles... the black jesus is amused...-0

p.s.-it will get done when it gets done.

[sailorseal]

Please, Please, Please.
This would make my life sooooooooooooo much easier

yeah, you've had to deal with clan issues for what, all of a week? if that? i can only imagine how chock-full-o dead threads your forum is, and how many times you've had to stay up creating private games for in-clan battles... the black jesus is amused...-0

p.s.-it will get done when it gets done.

Less then a week but I have a friend that enjoys making threads to annoy me and then logging off. With this I would be able to delete it right?

[blakebowling]

Please, Please, Please.
This would make my life sooooooooooooo much easier

yeah, you've had to deal with clan issues for what, all of a week? if that? i can only imagine how chock-full-o dead threads your forum is, and how many times you've had to stay up creating private games for in-clan battles... the black jesus is amused...-0

p.s.-it will get done when it gets done.

Less then a week but I have a friend that enjoys making threads to annoy me and then logging off. With this I would be able to delete it right?

Yes.

It will be done when it gets done, but I'm pushing to have it done sooner than later (as well as the OTIS stuff)

[Calidrmr]

just weighing in as a clan leader...this would be a wonderful addition to clans & their leaders...and although i see what Optimus Prime is saying, i think most, if not all clan leaders could be trusted with these permissions, and like others have pointed out, the forums are private & any f*ckups would only affect the clan, not CC as a whole...

[sailorseal]

Maybe only competitive clan leaders get the privileges and they can be removed

[SuicidalSnowman]

This is why I have an off-site forum for my clan.

Guys, I must say that this makes sense, and is a great idea, but I get the feeling that there is a reason this hasn't been done yet. We are all always complaining about the backlog of suggestions. Wouldn't it be easier to just get an off-site forum and allow the CC Team time to work on the bevy of other updates we are clamoring for?

I personally just feel that rather than assuming that there is an easy coding fix, or that it could lead to various abuses, or that we understand Lack's innermost thoughts and desires, there are plenty of free message board sites that would allow you to do whatever you wanted to your own threads, and are available now.

Cheers

[Calidrmr]

This is why I have an off-site forum for my clan.

Guys, I must say that this makes sense, and is a great idea, but I get the feeling that there is a reason this hasn't been done yet. We are all always complaining about the backlog of suggestions. Wouldn't it be easier to just get an off-site forum and allow the CC Team time to work on the bevy of other updates we are clamoring for?

I personally just feel that rather than assuming that there is an easy coding fix, or that it could lead to various abuses, or that we understand Lack's innermost thoughts and desires, there are plenty of free message board sites that would allow you to do whatever you wanted to your own threads, and are available now.

Cheers

ok...sounds reasonable to me...can you give me a link or something to get this started? & how private are these? sorry...but not that familiar with running message boards/forums except for here...

[blakebowling]

This is why I have an off-site forum for my clan.

Guys, I must say that this makes sense, and is a great idea, but I get the feeling that there is a reason this hasn't been done yet. We are all always complaining about the backlog of suggestions. Wouldn't it be easier to just get an off-site forum and allow the CC Team time to work on the bevy of other updates we are clamoring for?

I personally just feel that rather than assuming that there is an easy coding fix, or that it could lead to various abuses, or that we understand Lack's innermost thoughts and desires, there are plenty of free message board sites that would allow you to do whatever you wanted to your own threads, and are available now.

Cheers

There isn't any need to change coding now, it has been fixed in the latest update of phpbb, all lack has to do is push buttons to add the permissions.

[blakebowling]

Maybe only competitive clan leaders get the privileges and they can be removed

Why only competetive clan leaders? I think it is more important for discussion groups. But they should be removed if they are abused, leadership ability should be removed completely if they cant be responsible.