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so come on then Si

I've answered your questions, now answer mine.

Of all the conspirasies out there, the one with most weight has to be the one that we can all see and agree on.
The Pentagon was struck on 9/11
The government with held film evidence which must be in the hundreds of frames.
The government are now suffering because a large amount of Americans doubt the terrorist story.

The Bush administration would love nothing more than to add fuel to fire for overseas invasion, with even more footage / proof to get the whole country on side.

Another thing has struck me since 9/11 regarding footage of the twin towers. All of the footage that you see of the 2nd plane impacting, is the lack of photo angles on the internet.
After the first plane hit, all film crews in New York had their cameras trained on the burning tower. Hardly any of the footage on the internet seems to show the second planes far out trajectory which would help prove it was a plane with windows / not a military plane.
A plane traveling as low as that plane would of grabbed someones attention off camera to inform the cameraman to focus on this low flying plane.

I'm big on visual proof when it comes to proving something. Hence why I want one moon orbiter to show me images of the lander part of eagle 1 and the 4 moon buggies on the moon to lend some credence to the moon landings.

I've had Gordon Brown telling me that the inflation rate is 2/3% when any fucking idiot can see that inflation for the average Joe is like 10-18% and everyone is struggling to make ends meet.
And that crime figures are down, but only because no one bothers to ring the police anymore to report a crime because it's a waste of a day waiting for them to turn up only to be told that theres little to no chance of finding the criminal or the stolen goods.

I don't trust the government of any country because they're all as bent as a nine bob note and on the take.
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I think HC has been abducted by the government.
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i'm going on holiday for a week. jay, you demolition expert you, you will never listen to reasonable answers so please continue to wallow in your sefl-important fantasy world. Just know that you are as wrong about this as you are about almost everything.

pedro -

Nope. Can't be arsed. I'm going to bed. This is all just cherrypicking, self-important creationism for the 21st century. I love how you know the pilot's ability level, and how jay knows what the demolition of a building over 4 times taller than the tallest building ever demolished should look like. Your psychic abilities and expertise will serve you both well, I am sure. Now take care all, and watch out for the elite lizard shapeshifters injecting microschips into your foreheads.
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Flying a plane with accuracy is not that hard. Kenan did it and he only played a PS2 game about flying planes!!
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heavycola wrote:pedro -
love how you know the pilot's ability level.

Well he wasn't driving planes all his life of this size was he? If i had to fly a commercial sized jet plane with jack shit experience - I'd head for the easy target. If that was the Pentagon - it would be the middle of the pentangle at a high level of descent expecting to be hit by Surface to air missiles guarding the fucking place.
I wouldn't be able to keep a huge aircraft under the radar with a limited amount of large plane flying like some sort of terrain hugging flying the RAF train for day in day out.
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I already posted a link in here about the flight instructor saying he failed thi flight test misserably. HC have you been following everything? Or "cherrypicking" your arguments?
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heavycola wrote:i'm going on holiday for a week. jay, you demolition expert you, you will never listen to reasonable answers so please continue to wallow in your sefl-important fantasy world. Just know that you are as wrong about this as you are about almost everything.



HC nice non-answers. Of course, that would be because you don't HAVE ANY. :roll:
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jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:i'm going on holiday for a week. jay, you demolition expert you, you will never listen to reasonable answers so please continue to wallow in your sefl-important fantasy world. Just know that you are as wrong about this as you are about almost everything.



HC nice non-answers. Of course, that would be because you don't HAVE ANY. :roll:


He has had a lot so far... just not for the big important stuff... like Cheny. But that's all right, cauze I'm going to start this over.

I'm waiting for a couple of e-mails...

Of course you or anyone else is free to throw stuff out ther too.
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Pedronicus wrote:Now I don't know how true this picture is
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but that is a well fixed no parking sign! lol Was it put up with?


How would the sign be different if it were a missile instead of an airplane? ;)
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Backglass wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:Now I don't know how true this picture is
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but that is a well fixed no parking sign! lol Was it put up with?


How would the sign be different if it were a missile instead of an airplane? ;)



I don't know about the sign but I find the lack of luggage, airline seats, bodies, blood, any real evidence that a plane full of people crashed there to be present, a bit unusual.
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jay_a2j wrote:I don't know about the sign but I find the lack of luggage, airline seats, bodies, blood, any real evidence that a plane full of people crashed there to be present, a bit unusual.


We have been through this before jay.

An airplane, traveling at 500mph...does not explode backwards.

It's all inside the building. Would you like to see the pictures of the charred bodies again Jay?

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Backglass wrote:
Pedronicus wrote:Now I don't know how true this picture is
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but that is a well fixed no parking sign! lol Was it put up with?


How would the sign be different if it were a missile instead of an airplane? ;)


Isn't that the question that we are asking?


Backglass wrote:It's all inside the building. Would you like to see the pictures of the charred bodies again Jay?


I'm not too familier with this, but how could there be enough space for all that fuel to rish into the building? The hole would be small, and the plane would be blocking it, unless vaporized. Also, the footage from the towers shows massive explosions outside of the buildings, from the fuel.

I'm not asking this as a truther, but looking for an actual explination, Backglass. Unless we agree that the plane must have vaporized?
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Seriously
You are arguing with a person who worships some guy just because he got nailed to a tree, work on the principle that it aint so if Jay believes in it and you will be correct 98.63% of the time.
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joecoolfrog wrote:Seriously
You are arguing with a person who worships some guy just because he got nailed to a tree, work on the principle that it aint so if Jay believes in it and you will be correct 98.63% of the time.



I agree with Jay on many issues:

Women are sexier than men.
Do not punch old ladies in the face for no reason.
Do not sexually abuse farm animals.
Dropkicking babies is wrong to do.
Frogs make good catfish bait.
Sex with relatives, is relativly wrong.


Which of these do you disagree with? I belive on principle, that its all of them?
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Juan_Bottom wrote:Sex with relatives, is relatively wrong.

Pun of the day award.
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Dancing Mustard wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Sex with relatives, is relatively wrong.

Pun of the day award.



YES!!!!!!! WOOOHOOO!!!! This is an especially a great honer, because here it is 5 in the AM.... theres so much day left!!!!!

But for someone like DM to say "wont be a better pun all day" is like woooo!!!!
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Juan_Bottom wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:Seriously
You are arguing with a person who worships some guy just because he got nailed to a tree, work on the principle that it aint so if Jay believes in it and you will be correct 98.63% of the time.



I agree with Jay on many issues:

Women are sexier than men.
Do not punch old ladies in the face for no reason.
Do not sexually abuse farm animals.
Dropkicking babies is wrong to do.
Frogs make good catfish bait.
Sex with relatives, is relativly wrong.


Which of these do you disagree with? I belive on principle, that its all of them?

Except for number two and three. Those are good
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Juan_Bottom wrote:I'm not asking this as a truther, but looking for an actual explination, Backglass. Unless we agree that the plane must have vaporized?


The entire plane did not vaporize and no official has ever claimed so.

Wreckage photo's from inside the pentagon:

Although barely recognizable, there are a few pieces that still show "Boeing Green" primer:
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Engine Remains:
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Cowling:
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Landing Gear Strut:
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Tire:
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Conclusion"Despite the destructive fire that raged inside the impact area on 9/11, pieces of debris were visible on 9/13 and 9/14, and were photographed by recovery workers. These photos clearly show pieces of landing gears, a large turbofan engine, and fuselage. The evidence inside the building is consistent with the evidence of plane wreckage outside -- indicating that a commercial airliner flew into the Pentagon on September 11th."

Taken from: http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm an excellent article.


As for the bodies...These are actual exhibits used in the USA v/s Moussaoui trial. I wont post the pics but give you the links as they are rather gruesome, but if you want dead Pentagon bodies, here ya go.

WARNING. Actual pictures of 9/11 victims. Do not click if squeamish.
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In the interest of being fair, we do not know if these photos are legitimate. We don't know if the wreckage was planted after the fact. I'm no expert so I have to just "take your word" that there is plane wreckage from a passenger plane there.
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jay_a2j wrote:In the interest of being fair, we do not know if these photos are legitimate. We don't know if the wreckage was planted after the fact. I'm no expert so I have to just "take your word" that there is plane wreckage from a passenger plane there.


Don't take my word for it...take the word of these witnesses.

I. Witness Accounts of Wreckage Inside the Building

Witnesses described small pieces of plane debris in the building. Because of the fire, much of the debris was burned beyond recognition. Some pieces bore lime or yellow primer paint characteristic of internal aircraft parts. Larger pieces included seats, cockpit circuitry, and a landing gear. These accounts were drawn from Ron Harvey's excellent compilation and from my own research.

1. "Most of the wreckage was in very small pieces and most was carried out in drywall buckets. Some was large enough to identify -- including the tail number on the aircraft. I don't think there's any doubt about what it was and who owned it." (From a letter by an employee of the Pentagon)
http://www.humanunderground.com/11septe ... neral.html

2. "DC Matthew" wrote about his work inside the Pentagon: "After about 15 minutes shoveling up chunks of carpet and brick, I found a piece of circuit board, and a chunk of the plane. When I say a chunk of it, I mean a piece that was about 3 oz of twisted aluminum. The biggest piece I've seen so far is about the size of a refrigerator."
http://pub6.ezboard.com/foldmenonlinewh ... =957.topic

3. While searching through wreckage inside the building, firefighters Carlton Burkhammer and Brian Moravitz "spotted an intact seat from the plane's cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached." Burkhammer also "spotted lime-green pieces from the interior of the plane" within the building.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp

4. CMSgt. John Monaccio wrote: "I was in room 1B461. The plane's inertia carried aircraft remains all the way through the building coming to rest on the outside walls of our offices. We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area."
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/pe ... 20316.html

5. ARFF Captain Michael Defina said: "The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear."
http://www.nfpa.org/NFPAJournal/OnlineE ... .01.01.asp

The Navy operations area, where the cockpit was discovered, was in C-ring near the punchout hole. Many witnesses also recalled seeing plane wreckage in A-E Drive next to the punchout hole. The following three items were mentioned: a piece of the nose fuselage or nose cone, a landing gear, and a tire tread.

6. Navy Lt. Commander David Tarantino described the A-E Drive punchout hole: "They found an area where fire surrounded a hole in a wall that was blown out. They heard cries from people who were trapped and saw a plane tire."
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~julianr/lexisne ... antino.txt

7. Lt. Kevin Schaeffer from the Navy Command Center recalled that "on a service road that circled the Pentagon between the B and C rings, a chunk of the 757's nose cone and front landing gear lay on the pavement a few feet away, resting against the B Ring wall."
http://www.pilotonline.com/special/911/pentagon3.html

8. "The nose of the plane just barely jutted out into A/E Drive (the street that runs around the inside of the building). It made a perfectly round, 5-foot hole in the wall. There was one set of landing gear (presumably from the nose) out in A/E Drive. But most of the plane's skin was in pieces not much bigger than a piece of notebook paper." (From a letter by an employee of the Pentagon)
http://www.humanunderground.com/11septe ... neral.html

9. "I thought it was a terrorist bomb. . . .But then I saw the landing gear. It was on the ground in the alley between the B and C rings. When I saw it there, not only did I realize an airplane had struck the Pentagon but it was clear that the plane had come through the E, D, and C buildings to get there." (Paul K. Carlton, Jr., U.S. Air Force surgeon general, quoted by Dean Murphy, "September 11: An Oral History," p. 216

10. Rep. Ted Tiahrt wrote: "In the C and B rings the plane had punched a hole you could a drive a truck around in, and I saw an airplane tire. It made it very real."
http://wichita.bizjournals.com/wichita/ ... tory1.html

11. When LTC Victor Correa went back inside the Pentagon, "he found out what caused the horrific attack he survived earlier that morning; he saw the nose cone and the landing gear of the airliner."
http://www.army.mil/usar/news/2002/09-1 ... lsall.html



...but I suppose these are all government robots as well?
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Hold up Backglass.... That was a huge plane that struck, and there just isn't enough of it left. It looks vaporized to me.

There isn't enough plane left outside of the hole. And I don't see how the whole plane could be smashed(with as wide as it was) into that little hole. There just doesn't appear to be enough of it left, does there?

Wasn't that cowling picture the same picture used in LOOSECHANGE to show that it wasn't flight 77 that struck the pentagon? RollsRoyce and the other company that makes that particular Jet Engine both said is was from another type of plane? Or was that something else? [square holes vs circle ones]

You can also see by that picture of the Cowling that it appears to have melted....


HEY! I've posted links here already from people who were at the pentagon who discredit the plane theory too!!!! Let's not forget that!
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More eyewitness accounts...probably all on the take as spies. ;-)

Speaking of which...where are all the eyewitness accounts of "I saw a guided missile hit the Pentagon"? Hmmm?

Steve Anderson, Director of Communications, USA TODAY
A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke.

Deb Anlauf
Anlauf was watching TV coverage of the Trade Center burning shortly before 9:30 a.m. when she decided to return to her 14th-floor room from another part of the hotel. Once in her room, she heard a "loud roar" and looked out the window to see what was going on. "Suddenly I saw this plane right outside my window," Anlauf said during a telephone interview from her hotel room this morning. "You felt like you could touch it; it was that close. It was just incredible. "Then it shot straight across from where we are and flew right into the Pentagon. It was just this huge fireball that crashed into the wall (of the Pentagon). When it hit, the whole hotel shook."

David Battle
Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon, was standing outside the building and just about to enter when the aircraft struck. "It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking."

Omar Campo
Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. "It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."

Gary Bauer, former Presidential candidate
“I was going past the Pentagon, really inching a yard or so every couple of minutes. I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine. “I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn’t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment.

Mark Bright, Defense Protective Service officer
Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building. "I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area," he said. "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." The plane would have been seconds from impact -- the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon. He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the Pentagon. "As soon as it struck the building I just called in an attack, because I knew it couldn't be accidental," Bright said. He jumped into his police cruiser and headed to the area.

James R. Cissell
''Out of my peripheral vision,'' Cissell said, ''I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower. ''If you couldn't touch it from standing on the highway, you could by standing on your car.'' In the next seconds dozens of things flashed through his mind. ''I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board,'' Cissell said. He remembers the helipad the plane flew over before smacking into the Pentagon was close enough to him that ''I could have thrown a baseball at it and hit it.''

Dan Creed - Oracle Software
He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said."I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," Creed recalls.

Don Fortunato
“Traffic was at a standstill, so I parked on the shoulder, not far from the scene and ran to the site. Next to me was a cab from D.C., its windshield smashed out by pieces of lampposts. There were pieces of the plane all over the highway, pieces of wing, I think.”

Afework Hagos
Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

Terrance Kean
Terrance Kean, 35, who lives in a 14-story building nearby, heard the loud jet engines and glanced out his window. "I saw this very, very large passenger jet," said the architect, who had been packing for a move. "It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere. . . . It was very sort of surreal."

Charles H. Krohn
"One of the aircraft's engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon's mall parking area between the main building and the new loading dock facility", said Charles H. Krohn, the Army's deputy chief of public affairs. Those fleeing the building heard a loud secondary explosion about 10 min. after the initial impact.

William Middleton Sr.
William Middleton Sr., was running his street sweeper through the cemetery when he heard a harsh whistling sound overhead. Middleton looked up and spotted a commercial jet whose pilot seemed to be fighting with his own craft. Middleton said "Tthe plane was no higher than the tops of telephone poles as it lurched toward the Pentagon. The jet accelerated in the final few hundred yards before it tore into the building."

Mary Ann Owens
"Looking up didn't tell me what type of plane it was because it was so close I could only see the bottom. Realising the Pentagon was its target, I didn't think the careering, full-throttled craft would get that far. Its downward angle was too sharp, its elevation of maybe 50 feet, too low. Street lights toppled as the plane barely cleared the Interstate 395 overpass. The thought that I was about to die was immediate and certain. This plane was going to hit me along with all the other commuters trapped on Washington Boulevard. Gripping the steering wheel of my vibrating car, I involuntarily ducked as the wobbling plane thundered over my head. Once it passed, I raised slightly and grimaced as the left wing dipped and scraped the helicopter area just before the nose crashed into the southwest wall of the Pentagon."

Christine Peterson
"I was at a complete stop on the road in front of the helipad at the Pentagon; what I had thought would be a shortcut was as slow as the other routes I had taken that morning. I looked idly out my window to the left -- and saw a plane flying so low I said, “holy cow, that plane is going to hit my car” (not my actual words). The car shook as the plane flew over. It was so close that I could read the numbers under the wing.
And then the plane crashed. My mind could not comprehend what had happened. Where did the plane go? For some reason I expected it to bounce off the Pentagon wall in pieces. But there was no plane visible, only huge billows of smoke and torrents of fire."

Frank Probst
American Airlines Flight 77 approached from the west, coming in low over the nearby five-story Navy Annex on a hill overlooking the Pentagon. "He has lights off, wheels up, nose down," Probst recalled. The plane seemed to be accelerating directly toward him. He froze. "I knew I was dead," he said later. "The only thing I thought was, 'Damn, my wife has to go to another funeral, and I'm not going to see my two boys again.'." He dove to his right. He recalls the engine passing on one side of him, about six feet away. The plane's right wing went through a generator trailer "like butter," Probst said. The starboard engine hit a low cement wall and blew apart.

Tim Timmerman
A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."

Thomas D. Trapasso
Thomas D. Trapasso, a political appointee in the Clinton Administration who is now looking for work, was making telephone calls from his deck in Arlington Village, about 1 mi. south of the Pentagon and just west of the Interstate 395 (I-395) highway. He was startled by the large American Airlines aircraft flying about 300 ft. overhead. "The engines were just screaming, and the wheels were up," Trapasso said. "It disappeared over the trees, and I heard a boom. I knew something awful had happened--that an airplane had crashed somewhere in Washington, D.C.

Alan Wallace
About 9:40, Alan Wallace had finished fixing the foam metering valve on the back of his fire truck parked in the Pentagon fire station and walked to the front of the station. He looked up and saw a jetliner coming straight at him. It was about 25 feet off the ground, no landing wheels visible, a few hundred yards away and closing fast.

"Runnnnn!" he yelled to a pal. There was no time to look back, barely time to scramble. He made it about 30 feet, heard a terrible roar, felt the heat, and dove underneath a van, skinning his stomach as he slid along the blacktop, sailing under it as though he were riding a luge. The van protected him against burning metal that was flying around. A few seconds later he was sliding back out to check on his friend and then race back to the firetruck. He jumped in, threw it into gear, but the accelerator was dead. The entire back of the truck was destroyed, the cab on fire. He grabbed the radio headset and called the main station at Fort Myer to report the unimaginable.

The sun was still low in the sky, obscured by the Pentagon and the enormous billowing clouds of acrid smoke, making it hauntingly dark. The ground was on fire. Trees were on fire. Hot slices of aluminum were everywhere.
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Backglass wrote:More eyewitness accounts...probably all on the take as spies.

:lol: My witnesses or yours?

Backglass wrote:Speaking of which...where are all the eyewitness accounts of "I saw a guided missile hit the Pentagon"? Hmmm?

Where are all the 60 tapes of the plane hitting the Pentagon??? hmmm?
I've heard witnesses say a military cargo plane hit it, a small plane, a large jet, a single engine plan, and a missle.

BTW for really, I only know of one person who said a missle hit it! She ended up in a hospital after the attacks. She's qouted in LOOSECHANGE 1 & 2 edition.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:The hole would be small, and the plane would be blocking it,


Big planes don't stop when they hit walls, they just go through till they hit a few more walls.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:Where are all the 60 tapes of the plane hitting the Pentagon??? hmmm?


Now Now...stay on the topic at hand. [-X

Juan_Bottom wrote:I've heard witnesses say a military cargo plane hit it, a small plane, a large jet, a single engine plan, and a missle.


Perhaps...people see all sorts of things in moments of trauma...and memories are spotty. But this plane flew over a crowded interstate highway. THOUSANDS of people reported seeing it and none said "I saw a missile fly over my car", they ALL said it was an AA Jet.

Are they all liars? On the take?

Juan_Bottom wrote:BTW for really, I only know of one person who said a missle hit it! She ended up in a hospital after the attacks. She's qouted in LOOSECHANGE 1 & 2 edition.


OK! It was a missile! You got me gosh darnit! #-o

Just a few tiny little questions...

  1. Where is the plane?
  2. Where are the crew & passengers?
  3. Where did all the wreckage & bodies in the Pentagon come from?
  4. How did "they" plant everything without the hundreds of civilian police, fire & rescue workers on-site seeing them?

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