Skoffin's Madhouse mafia Day Seven

[The Weird One]

Can our claimed "historians" use their roles every once in awhile so we can actually pretend to believe at least one is telling the truth *cough*votes*cough*?
Also, do safe claims usually come with complete roles, I thought it's usually just names?

[Ditocoaf]

I really have no clue why kalish defended me. I suppose it's better for scum if I survived to day 2, because there's so much confusion surrounding me. If I was lynched, and confirmed survivor, then things would be much easier for town to figure out. In any case, I'm starting to find exile as more likely scum than I did for most of yesterday. Here's why:

If I was scum, and fakeclaiming, what are the chances that I would just happen to fakeclaim the exact same role as exile's real role? The chances that I just made up "Historian, two vote counts a day, survivor," when there actually is a survivor role that has to do vote counts, and is called a Historian, are very very small. If I was scum, and fake claimed that, then odds are that the1exile would be following suit in another fake claim.

If the1exile were really what he claims, he should realize that it is very unlikely for someone to fakeclaim the exact same role he is, and he would know I'm probably telling the truth. But, he's pushing for my lynch. This doesn't make any sense; if he were innocent, he would know that I'm innocent as well.

Therefore, either way you look at it, the1exile wouldn't play the way he is, if he were telling the truth.

vote the1exile

...sure, I'll do a vote count now. I'm in six games, so it's hard to keep up in all of them.

[The Weird One]

Can our claimed "historians" use their roles every once in awhile so we can actually pretend to believe at least one is telling the truth *cough*votes*cough*?
Also, do safe claims usually come with complete roles, I thought it's usually just names?

bugger...I didn't mean to do that.

I was going to say: he could have put one and one together after dito claimed. if exile was told that he could claim historian, or was given the name of a historian for it, he could've easily jumped in to say "me too!" when dito was giving out his role because it seemed to be a solid and safe role.

[Ditocoaf]

→Vote Count←

ace (1) -- /
Dito (2) -- innervision, S_L
exile (2) -- ani, dito

[Dark Wingstalker]

I can get on the Exile bandwagon, Anark had pretty solid reasoning, and Dito seemed nice and clear to me, whereas exile put up a weak defence at best.

Vote:Exile

[The Weird One]

I can get on the Exile bandwagon, Anark had pretty solid reasoning, and Dito seemed nice and clear to me, whereas exile put up a weak defence at best.

Vote:Exile

It's gotta be blue.

I'm gonna vote exile for the reasons presented by nark and dito, also, he's been acting scummy lately.

[Dark Wingstalker]

my mistake

Vote: Exile

[Fircoal]

I really have no clue why kalish defended me. I suppose it's better for scum if I survived to day 2, because there's so much confusion surrounding me. If I was lynched, and confirmed survivor, then things would be much easier for town to figure out. In any case, I'm starting to find exile as more likely scum than I did for most of yesterday. Here's why:

If I was scum, and fakeclaiming, what are the chances that I would just happen to fakeclaim the exact same role as exile's real role? The chances that I just made up "Historian, two vote counts a day, survivor," when there actually is a survivor role that has to do vote counts, and is called a Historian, are very very small. If I was scum, and fake claimed that, then odds are that the1exile would be following suit in another fake claim.

If the1exile were really what he claims, he should realize that it is very unlikely for someone to fakeclaim the exact same role he is, and he would know I'm probably telling the truth. But, he's pushing for my lynch. This doesn't make any sense; if he were innocent, he would know that I'm innocent as well.

Therefore, either way you look at it, the1exile wouldn't play the way he is, if he were telling the truth.

vote the1exile

...sure, I'll do a vote count now. I'm in six games, so it's hard to keep up in all of them.

I agree with the latter part of this logic. The chances are much higher that Exile is lying. Alseo I HIGHLY doubt scum as fake claims. I mean it's Skoffin. She's too lazy to make fake claims for scum. I mean, it look her 5 days to send out the pms. >_> I don't think she'd add a ton of stuff onto them.'

I'd vote Exile but I can't.

[The Weird One]

You can, she'll just ignore it, though.

[Sierra_Leon]

Ok, I've read up. I found Ditocoaf the most suspicious player for the whole of day 1. The fact that Kalish defended him and turned up scum reinforces my suspicions. If Dito turns out to be scum, I see possible connections between him and fircoal and/or animorph and/or Nark. Vote Ditocoaf.

Let me also clarify that LoVo had nothing to do with the messages over the PA system. I can only assume that the IAMLORDVOLDEMORT riddle hints to there being a Lord Voldemort role, from the Harry Potter books. The fact that LoVo didn't post had nothing to do with those messages; I don't have a post restriction. It had to do with LoVo's lack of participation, hence Skoffin has blacklisted him from what I understood.

May I ask how Dito and I have any connection to one another whatsoever?

I'm not going to bother looking all the way back again to find quotes. I'll come to that if dito turns up scum.


Exile, I believe this was asked before, but I don't remember your answer: are you a survivor too?

[sam_levi_11]

okay so far exile is looking very dodgy, and the role is too...specialised...to be fake claimed.

[The1exile]

okay so far exile is looking very dodgy

why?

Do try and play for yourself, rather than being a mindless bandwagonner.

[The1exile]

Exile, I believe this was asked before, but I don't remember your answer: are you a survivor too?

Currently, yes, if I die, I lose. But I can seriously mess up the game if I do

[DRoZ]

Exile, I believe this was asked before, but I don't remember your answer: are you a survivor too?

Currently, yes, if I die, I lose. But I can seriously mess up the game if I do

How so? Keep in mind that a lot of people don't like to be threatened with unsubstantiated threats...

[The1exile]

it's hardly a threat. Without a historian to keep track of the votes, the game may well go wacky.

[The1exile]

Vote countzor

ace (1) -- /
Dito (2) -- innervision, S_L
me (4) -- ani, dito, TWO, Stalker
People who would vote for me but can't (1): Fircoal (hah, sucks for you )

[DRoZ]

So you are just saying that your vote counts would go away... It certainly read like you were insinuating much worse consequences of lynching you. I am sorry to tell you but we would still have another historian (that is if dito is honest, of course even if he is lying he would still have to continue his counts just to keep up appearances) and also a mod to take care of vote counts. Not to mention it wouldn't be terribly difficult to just read back a few pages.

[Anarkistsdream]

So you are just saying that your vote counts would go away... It certainly read like you were insinuating much worse consequences of lynching you. I am sorry to tell you but we would still have another historian (that is if dito is honest, of course even if he is lying he would still have to continue his counts just to keep up appearances) and also a mod to take care of vote counts. Not to mention it wouldn't be terribly difficult to just read back a few pages.

And considering that Dito claimed first, I have the tendency to believe him more.

Vote: Exile

[The1exile]

So you are just saying that your vote counts would go away

No. I'm not.

[DRoZ]

So you are just saying that your vote counts would go away

No. I'm not.

Well then how exactly can you "seriously mess up the game" if you die?

[The1exile]

I think Skoffin would mess with the vote counts. I don't know what exactly would happen, I just doubt it would be at all good.

This is the same mod who last game of hers I was in made a role saying ROCKS FALL, EVERYONE DIES that could make the game end at any time after day 3.

[Anarkistsdream]

I think Skoffin would mess with the vote counts. I don't know what exactly would happen, I just doubt it would be at all good.

This is the same mod who last game of hers I was in made a role saying ROCKS FALL, EVERYONE DIES that could make the game end at any time after day 3.

So, you were basically trying to intimidate us and now you have nothing to say or show to prove any of your bullshit?

Wow... You definitely seem scummy to me.

But don't worry, Exile, I still love you... strictly platonic.

[danodukebb]

So you are just saying that your vote counts would go away... It certainly read like you were insinuating much worse consequences of lynching you. I am sorry to tell you but we would still have another historian (that is if dito is honest, of course even if he is lying he would still have to continue his counts just to keep up appearances) and also a mod to take care of vote counts. Not to mention it wouldn't be terribly difficult to just read back a few pages.

And considering that Dito claimed first, I have the tendency to believe him more.

Vote: Exile

agreed vote exile

[danodukebb]

i meant vote exile

[Sierra_Leon]

13 Ditocoaf ====== (Flores, Futurerichguy, danodukebb, Ga7, Droz, , Icedagger, Kwan, exile, Innervision, TWO, Militant, animorph, Sam)
3 The1exile ====== (Nark, Kalish, Dito)

I would like to hear from TWO, animorph and danodukebb why they switched from Ditocoaf to The1exile. Animorph and dano only gave a "What he said" comment instead of bringing their only argumentation. That strikes me as odd, as one day earlier you were still believing exile's claim over Dito's. What changed your minds? Do you still think Dito is scummy too, or does one being scum clear the other? More input on this please.

TWO did bring up an argument, but I disagree with it.

Can our claimed "historians" use their roles every once in awhile so we can actually pretend to believe at least one is telling the truth *cough*votes*cough*?
Also, do safe claims usually come with complete roles, I thought it's usually just names?

He could have put one and one together after dito claimed. if exile was told that he could claim historian, or was given the name of a historian for it, he could've easily jumped in to say "me too!" when dito was giving out his role because it seemed to be a solid and safe role.

Why would exile claim dito's role? It's a rare, made-up role, so the chances of there being two of those roles in the game are practically none-existent. The only way I could see that happening is if those roles are of different alignment. This is not exile's first game; he must have realized this too. You can't possibly argue it "seemed to be a solid and safe role" for him to claim.

I think exile would only counter-claim a role like that if he had nothing to hide and is speaking the truth. Hence, Dito is likely lying.