REDUNDANT : Conquer Club Map Rank

[chipv]

So it's possible you will have a permanent offset for 1. (This will be constant)

So we could figure out what each of our offsets will be, based on current score vs. predicted? Example, all my games
Colonel 193pts for Brigadier +1807 Won 603 from 1355(45%)
So it's giving me 85 more points than I have.

Funny thing though, my games should be more like "2304 Completed, 1068 (46%) Won". Were the really that many game logs lost, or is this some other issue?

I've also noticed something funny near the beginning of large searches. I'll get a partial table that doesn't add up properly in the games column.

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Totals     Private 1st Class 38pts for Corporal  +62   Won 9 from 20(45%)   Won 2 from 5   24 (0)
Arms Race! New Recruit       38pts for Corporal  +62   Won 1 from 1(100%)   Won 1 from 1   3


Is this meant to happen (ie. it scans the games for wins first, then adds up the points)? I haven't noticed it on smaller searches covering just a few maps, but I've never gone through the completed table to see if it adds up.

I found something else a little odd: I don't get results searching for "NCAA March Madness 2008 #1". I've completed 8 games, and none show up. It works for other tournaments, but I haven't looked through all of them. Maybe something to do with the "#"?

I literally just ran your Map Rank and got

Colonel 76pts for Brigadier +1924 Won 1069 from 2306(46%) Won 426 from 676 1083 (73)

So you can see the win/loss/% and undefeated/cross map numbers are always correct as it should be.

If you are in active terminator games and have killed people, then Map Rank does not currently look at these (it could do but would be slower).
So your offset might be just due to that or a combination of that and missing logs. Map Rank only looks at finished games.
Missing logs only affect points and not the other calculations. A lot of problems might be just down to active terminator kills, actually.

Map Rank has had a lot of speed optimisation so your partial totals might look odd in the middle, but it will get it right. I'm going to run a few checks on this just in case something screws up for large amount of games, but since I just ran on all your games, looks ok aside from points.

I will look into the tournament issue for you today.

[qeee1]

This may have been asked already but...

On the results page it gives out the actual number of points received for each map. Would it be possible (and would you be interested) to code the map rank (or a different version of map rank) to produce the number of points that would have been received if you had only played that map.

i.e. To order the games by time finished. Then assume you had 1000pts before your first game on the particular map, calculate your actual score before that game, and then based on the points actually received to calculate the points that would have been gained/received if you had been on 1000 pts instead. Add or subtract that from 1000 and make that your new assumed score. Then move on to the second game with your new actual score and your new assumed score. and so on...

I ask because I'm interested in seeing scores for singles games alone. I once tried to code this myself, but having only C++ 101 knowledge I didn't get very far.

[rocky mountain]

well, the amount of points you have gotten from that map, you can just add (or minus) to 1000 to see what it would be. there is also a rank that it shows which tells you what rank you would be if you just played that map. its the same ranking system as the site is. lets say for example you lost 50 points on World 2.1. it would say: private | 50 points to private 1st class, or something like that. that means you would have 950 points if you had only played that map...
does that make any sense at all? sorry if i confused you...

[qeee1]

Hmm... what I mean is that

Say you're at 2000 pts, and you play Africa for the first time; say it's 1v1 against someone with 1000 pts and you win. Then you'll gain 10pts, and your map rank will show +10 I think...
What I'm interested in would be for a script to show +20, as if that actually was your first game, i.e. as if you had 1000 pts when you played it.


To implement this it'd need to know your actual score when you played it, ie. 2000. then see that you won 10pts. From this it would calculate your opponents score at that time using the points formula, so:
10 = (opponents score/2000) x 20
opponents score = 2000 x (10/20)
opponents score = 1000

and using your opponents score it'd calculate your score as if you had 1000 pts at that time
points gained = (1000/1000)x20

Then the script would assume (1000+points gained) was your new points total and move on to the next game on that map... and so on.

[chipv]

Hmm... what I mean is that

Say you're at 2000 pts, and you play Africa for the first time; say it's 1v1 against someone with 1000 pts and you win. Then you'll gain 10pts, and your map rank will show +10 I think...
What I'm interested in would be for a script to show +20, as if that actually was your first game, i.e. as if you had 1000 pts when you played it.


To implement this it'd need to know your actual score when you played it, ie. 2000. then see that you won 10pts. From this it would calculate your opponents score at that time using the points formula, so:
10 = (opponents score/2000) x 20
opponents score = 2000 x (10/20)
opponents score = 1000

and using your opponents score it'd calculate your score as if you had 1000 pts at that time
points gained = (1000/1000)x20

Then the script would assume (1000+points gained) was your new points total and move on to the next game on that map... and so on.

Sorry, can't do this one without assistance from the site developers.

As it stands Map Rank can't calculate how many points every individual has at game start without looking through every single game in the system.
(There is hopefully going to be a change to facilitate this, I'm waiting at the moment).

Take your example above. You may play several Classic maps. On one particular map your score is..., well I'd have to calculate your score across all maps according to your suggestion to get the 2000pts. I could then work out everyone else's score as you say.

Some alternative, maybe?

[chipv]

1.3.4 is available.

First draft of showing medal icons next to player names so you can see players already defeated as part of the medal quota.

Run Map Rank + All in the left menu to get latest data.

Then go to games listing pages (mygames and game finder results) and you'll see the icons next to the players listed.

At the moment this only works from the left menu and only for your Map Rank. Only displays on mygames and game finder at the moment.

[lanyards]

1.3.4 is available.

First draft of showing medal icons next to player names so you can see players already defeated as part of the medal quota.

Run Map Rank + All in the left menu to get latest data.

Then go to games listing pages (mygames and game finder results) and you'll see the icons next to the players listed.

At the moment this only works from the left menu and only for your Map Rank. Only displays on mygames and game finder at the moment.

In my Map Rank Menu, it says Latest Version Installed. I have Internet Explorer Version, will it matter?

--lanyards

[chipv]

1.3.4 is available.

First draft of showing medal icons next to player names so you can see players already defeated as part of the medal quota.

Run Map Rank + All in the left menu to get latest data.

Then go to games listing pages (mygames and game finder results) and you'll see the icons next to the players listed.

At the moment this only works from the left menu and only for your Map Rank. Only displays on mygames and game finder at the moment.

In my Map Rank Menu, it says Latest Version Installed. I have Internet Explorer Version, will it matter?

--lanyards

I've only done this in the Firefox version sorry.
Internet explorer conversion will come soon.

By, the way, I want to thank lanyards for the idea and also for designing and hosting the images for this - great stuff!

[lanyards]

1.3.4 is available.

First draft of showing medal icons next to player names so you can see players already defeated as part of the medal quota.

Run Map Rank + All in the left menu to get latest data.

Then go to games listing pages (mygames and game finder results) and you'll see the icons next to the players listed.

At the moment this only works from the left menu and only for your Map Rank. Only displays on mygames and game finder at the moment.

In my Map Rank Menu, it says Latest Version Installed. I have Internet Explorer Version, will it matter?

--lanyards

I've only done this in the Firefox version sorry.
Internet explorer conversion will come soon.

By, the way, I want to thank lanyards for the idea and also for designing and hosting the images for this - great stuff!

No problem. That was the easy stuff. But I got the new version on Firefox now, but I don't see any of them.

--lanyards

[chipv]

No problem. That was the easy stuff. But I got the new version on Firefox now, but I don't see any of them.
--lanyards

Have you run Map Rank lanyards + All in the left menu since the new version was installed?

[lanyards]

No problem. That was the easy stuff. But I got the new version on Firefox now, but I don't see any of them.
--lanyards

Have you run Map Rank lanyards + All in the left menu since the new version was installed?

I see the left menu, and I can run the Map Rank, but now it only shows Unique Defeats and Win/loss.

--lanyards

[lanyards]

No problem. That was the easy stuff. But I got the new version on Firefox now, but I don't see any of them.
--lanyards

Have you run Map Rank lanyards + All in the left menu since the new version was installed?

I see the left menu, and I can run the Map Rank, but now it only shows Unique Defeats and Win/loss.

--lanyards

Nevermind, I had those options turned off. But I still don't see the defeated graphics.

--lanyards

[yeti_c]

I get this error when I run it for myself?

Error: totals._defeats[s[0]] is undefined
Source File: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/dave/Application%20Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/sm400zxa.default/extensions/%7Be4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781%7D/components/greasemonkey.js
Line: 1072

C.

[chipv]

Thanks for the error, yeti, you might want to edit your post...

[lanyards]

It won't let me finish scanning all my games. It stops at 63% Doodle Earth.

--lanyards

[yeti_c]

Thanks for the error, yeti, you might want to edit your post...

No probs - and cheers - I wasn't really paying attention there... edited!

C.

[chipv]

Ok, 1.3.5 should be ok... sorry about that.

[Optimus Prime]

Hmmm... it's still freezing up on me at various points each time... odd.

[chipv]

Hmmm... it's still freezing up on me at various points each time... odd.

Just for confirmation - you have the Rank and Points checkbox unchecked? (There is a problem with that when I run your Map Rank but not when checked)

[Optimus Prime]

Hmmm... it's still freezing up on me at various points each time... odd.

Just for confirmation - you have the Rank and Points checkbox unchecked? (There is a problem with that when I run your Map Rank but not when checked)

I've been doing it unchecked... give me a moment to see if it happens when checked.

EDIT: I don't freeze up if I leave it checked. Weird. That works for me though, no big deal there.

Now, my other question is about these icons and such, I'm totally confused by how that is supposed to work.

[chipv]

Hmmm... it's still freezing up on me at various points each time... odd.

Just for confirmation - you have the Rank and Points checkbox unchecked? (There is a problem with that when I run your Map Rank but not when checked)

I've been doing it unchecked... give me a moment to see if it happens when checked.

EDIT: I don't freeze up if I leave it checked. Weird. That works for me though, no big deal there.

Now, my other question is about these icons and such, I'm totally confused by how that is supposed to work.

Yes, that sounds right - I am fixing a problem with unchecked but checked should be fine now.

I have modified the head post of this thread, maybe needs modifying for clarity. Let me fix this problem and perhaps you could read that in the meantime then I'll come back and talk a bit more after the fix.

[Optimus Prime]

I figured out the icons thingy, that is pretty fancy...

[lanyards]

Maybe you could have a check box for people who want the icons and people who don't, in case it makes theirs run slow.

--lanyards

[chipv]

Maybe you could have a check box for people who want the icons and people who don't, in case it makes theirs run slow.

--lanyards

Shouldn't affect speed - most of the calculations were done already before this change.

[chipv]

Fixed 1.3.6 will work with both checked and unchecked Rank and Points. Sorry about that again.