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Fruitcake wrote:You live in cloud cuckoo land soloman.
To expect an anarchic system, whereby people can needlessly attack others, to then turn correct, is like asking the tide to stop in its motion. I am staggered and amazed at yours, and others, naiveté. Furthermore, you are often dealing with hormonal raging teenagers, and if you don't know yet, let me tell you as a man who has raised 4 children. You will NEVER get them to act the way you want them to. You can spend from here to eternity trying to instil a sense of responsibility in them and you will, for the most part, fail. I may add at this point, rightly so…they are about to embark on a lifetime of seriousness, responsibility and a lot of hard times, why shouldn’t they be needlessly vacant in their approach at this time.
In short, it matters not how much you drone on about educating, getting everyone ‘on message’, asking people nicely, in fact anything. The number of abusers will in time, increase, not decrease, this is human nature. Do you not see that systems that are inherently weak in control, such as this new system, always attract more abuse, not less….if your premise held any strength, we would not have the myriad systems of checks and balances in place to keep human nature within certain boundaries. If you are unaware of this fact, your knowledge of the rise and rise of humanity on this planet is sorely lacking.
This system does not and will never really work without some kind of checks and balance involved, and if that happens, why do we not just revert to the simpler system of feedback?
Soloman wrote:Fruitcake wrote:You live in cloud cuckoo land soloman.
To expect an anarchic system, whereby people can needlessly attack others, to then turn correct, is like asking the tide to stop in its motion. I am staggered and amazed at yours, and others, naiveté. Furthermore, you are often dealing with hormonal raging teenagers, and if you don't know yet, let me tell you as a man who has raised 4 children. You will NEVER get them to act the way you want them to. You can spend from here to eternity trying to instil a sense of responsibility in them and you will, for the most part, fail. I may add at this point, rightly so…they are about to embark on a lifetime of seriousness, responsibility and a lot of hard times, why shouldn’t they be needlessly vacant in their approach at this time.
In short, it matters not how much you drone on about educating, getting everyone ‘on message’, asking people nicely, in fact anything. The number of abusers will in time, increase, not decrease, this is human nature. Do you not see that systems that are inherently weak in control, such as this new system, always attract more abuse, not less….if your premise held any strength, we would not have the myriad systems of checks and balances in place to keep human nature within certain boundaries. If you are unaware of this fact, your knowledge of the rise and rise of humanity on this planet is sorely lacking.
This system does not and will never really work without some kind of checks and balance involved, and if that happens, why do we not just revert to the simpler system of feedback?
Your analogy is only a distinction of your own inadequacies. I have 5 children and raised my younger brother sister and nephew, with the exception of my sister all values I attempted to instill were successful the oldest amongst the ones I raised is 24. Your premise tat failure is imminent is most likely why you failed, I would not except failure in regards to the life lessons I taught I remained persistent till they were adults and teenagers. I pity you and your reality and it's differences between mine. The new system is realistic in more ways then just online as it is structured similar to arbitrary grading systems at work and school. There will always be abusers in the world but for the most part I have found people are generally good and when given an opportunity will make the right choices if they are not reveling in self hate or debauchery. This system is a real world improvement, maybe you should have found a good structure for your children provided them with a spiritual base then involved them in something like martial arts which would have helped reinforce basic societal moral and self discipline. I guess I have been blessed to so far have 7 successes and one partial failure...

Your analogy is only a distinction of your own inadequacies. I have 5 children and raised my younger brother sister and nephew, with the exception of my sister all values I attempted to instill were successful the oldest amongst the ones I raised is 24. Your premise tat failure is imminent is most likely why you failed
Soloman wrote:detlef wrote:This is where I would typically issue an apology for writing something that was construed as "borderline racist" but screw that. Iron GLE is 100% correct. To anyone not fishing for a reason to be offended, "Drinking the koolaid" means exactly what he said. It is very widely used by any number of people in positions (say radio) who would be skewered by the public for uttering "borderline racist" statements. Of course, "the public" understands exactly what they're saying. Perhaps you're correct that they were drinking "flavor aid" but once you're done reprogramming the entire on-line community (because, again, the 'anything short of 5 is an insult mentality is the default in nearly every on-line forum) on how they view feedback, then you can start in on clearing up this mistake in a widely used metaphor.
To be honest, I had no idea you were black. Now carry on, but I'd suggest you put the shovel down. Which, btw, is merely in reference to the fact that you're continuing to dig yourself a deeper hole, just in case there's any confusion.
The Communities both real world and Online I am a member of know the reference to be racists there have been comments about Barrack Obama and the how Koolaid will need to be served and multiple Jokes about Koolaid and black people in the public Domain care OF Obama(High Profile)as recent as this last week. Another online site I am a member of http://www.allhiphop.com, suffered attacks from other racists hackers with Koolaid black jokes and other racist stereotypes and made national news because of the hacking involved which shut down the boards in this last week. To feign Ignorance is pathetic and not a reasonable defense, to inaccurately reference an event with the improper terminology and try and defend those comments is low class.
To me both of your arguments show how limited your scope is, as far as a basic understanding before speaking on a subject. I could be crass and reprint some of the recent offenses and historical references that you both seem oblivious of, but I have no desire to lower myself to reprint racist trash to prove a point. DO a quick search and learn the fallacy of your statement, then after that revelation weigh in your mind what other common fallacies you hold tight to and then maybe you will be able let go of your prejudices against the new system and see it for what it really is and embrace it and help it, instead of throwing a tantrum and making mindless attacks with out regards for all possible implications...
I guess I should be glad you did not ask if I need more rope, so maybe you are starting to get the picture on contexts and implications even tho all the way around so far you have been wrong...
Soloman wrote:Fruitcake wrote:You live in cloud cuckoo land soloman.
To expect an anarchic system, whereby people can needlessly attack others, to then turn correct, is like asking the tide to stop in its motion. I am staggered and amazed at yours, and others, naiveté. Furthermore, you are often dealing with hormonal raging teenagers, and if you don't know yet, let me tell you as a man who has raised 4 children. You will NEVER get them to act the way you want them to. You can spend from here to eternity trying to instil a sense of responsibility in them and you will, for the most part, fail. I may add at this point, rightly so…they are about to embark on a lifetime of seriousness, responsibility and a lot of hard times, why shouldn’t they be needlessly vacant in their approach at this time.
In short, it matters not how much you drone on about educating, getting everyone ‘on message’, asking people nicely, in fact anything. The number of abusers will in time, increase, not decrease, this is human nature. Do you not see that systems that are inherently weak in control, such as this new system, always attract more abuse, not less….if your premise held any strength, we would not have the myriad systems of checks and balances in place to keep human nature within certain boundaries. If you are unaware of this fact, your knowledge of the rise and rise of humanity on this planet is sorely lacking.
This system does not and will never really work without some kind of checks and balance involved, and if that happens, why do we not just revert to the simpler system of feedback?
Your analogy is only a distinction of your own inadequacies. I have 5 children and raised my younger brother sister and nephew, with the exception of my sister all values I attempted to instill were successful the oldest amongst the ones I raised is 24. Your premise tat failure is imminent is most likely why you failed, I would not except failure in regards to the life lessons I taught I remained persistent till they were adults and teenagers. I pity you and your reality and it's differences between mine. The new system is realistic in more ways then just online as it is structured similar to arbitrary grading systems at work and school. There will always be abusers in the world but for the most part I have found people are generally good and when given an opportunity will make the right choices if they are not reveling in self hate or debauchery. This system is a real world improvement, maybe you should have found a good structure for your children provided them with a spiritual base then involved them in something like martial arts which would have helped reinforce basic societal moral and self discipline. I guess I have been blessed to so far have 7 successes and one partial failure...
IronE.GLE wrote:Soloman wrote:Fruitcake wrote:You live in cloud cuckoo land soloman.
To expect an anarchic system, whereby people can needlessly attack others, to then turn correct, is like asking the tide to stop in its motion. I am staggered and amazed at yours, and others, naiveté. Furthermore, you are often dealing with hormonal raging teenagers, and if you don't know yet, let me tell you as a man who has raised 4 children. You will NEVER get them to act the way you want them to. You can spend from here to eternity trying to instil a sense of responsibility in them and you will, for the most part, fail. I may add at this point, rightly so…they are about to embark on a lifetime of seriousness, responsibility and a lot of hard times, why shouldn’t they be needlessly vacant in their approach at this time.
In short, it matters not how much you drone on about educating, getting everyone ‘on message’, asking people nicely, in fact anything. The number of abusers will in time, increase, not decrease, this is human nature. Do you not see that systems that are inherently weak in control, such as this new system, always attract more abuse, not less….if your premise held any strength, we would not have the myriad systems of checks and balances in place to keep human nature within certain boundaries. If you are unaware of this fact, your knowledge of the rise and rise of humanity on this planet is sorely lacking.
This system does not and will never really work without some kind of checks and balance involved, and if that happens, why do we not just revert to the simpler system of feedback?
Your analogy is only a distinction of your own inadequacies. I have 5 children and raised my younger brother sister and nephew, with the exception of my sister all values I attempted to instill were successful the oldest amongst the ones I raised is 24. Your premise tat failure is imminent is most likely why you failed, I would not except failure in regards to the life lessons I taught I remained persistent till they were adults and teenagers. I pity you and your reality and it's differences between mine. The new system is realistic in more ways then just online as it is structured similar to arbitrary grading systems at work and school. There will always be abusers in the world but for the most part I have found people are generally good and when given an opportunity will make the right choices if they are not reveling in self hate or debauchery. This system is a real world improvement, maybe you should have found a good structure for your children provided them with a spiritual base then involved them in something like martial arts which would have helped reinforce basic societal moral and self discipline. I guess I have been blessed to so far have 7 successes and one partial failure...
Wow, just wow. So now anyone that disagrees with you about the ratings system is an inadequate parent and human being in general? I find this extremely distasteful, as I do with your numerous abuses of the thesaurus and English language. Peter Roget is rolling over in his grave each and every time you misuse a word.

IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.

Fruitcake wrote:Your analogy is only a distinction of your own inadequacies. I have 5 children and raised my younger brother sister and nephew, with the exception of my sister all values I attempted to instill were successful the oldest amongst the ones I raised is 24. Your premise tat failure is imminent is most likely why you failed
With a Doctor, a Chartered Accountant, a published Philosopher and a high ranking Officer in an International Charity action group as my now grown up children are, I must humbly agree, it is obvious I have failed miserably. I was obviously a poor parent, taught them little and should have followed your obviously far mightier and true way, after all, I only managed 4 out of 4 successes.
not sure if you are a blind idiot or Liar but since you want to make a blatantly disprovable statement again here is a simple google search link... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ko ... gle+Search Detlef your just as sad...All this further proves why you cannot get the new system basic comprehension of what is right before you seems to be absent...HEre are a few more ignorant sites http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kool-aiddetlef wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.
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Damn, I wished I'd bothered to look that up! Though, in fair disclosure, the fat woman joke I found actually started "yo mama's so fat". I think we're going to need to get an official word on the racial implications on that one.
detlef wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.
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Damn, I wished I'd bothered to look that up! Though, in fair disclosure, the fat woman joke I found actually started "yo mama's so fat". I think we're going to need to get an official word on the racial implications on that one.
Soloman wrote:not sure if you are a blind idiot or Liar but since you want to make a blatantly disprovable statement again here is a simple google search link... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ko ... gle+Search Detlef your just as sad...All this further proves why you cannot get the new system basic comprehension of what is right before you seems to be absentdetlef wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.
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Damn, I wished I'd bothered to look that up! Though, in fair disclosure, the fat woman joke I found actually started "yo mama's so fat". I think we're going to need to get an official word on the racial implications on that one.


Soloman wrote:not sure if you are a blind idiot or Liar but since you want to make a blatantly disprovable statement again here is a simple google search link... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ko ... gle+Search Detlef your just as sad...All this further proves why you cannot get the new system basic comprehension of what is right before you seems to be absentdetlef wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.
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Damn, I wished I'd bothered to look that up! Though, in fair disclosure, the fat woman joke I found actually started "yo mama's so fat". I think we're going to need to get an official word on the racial implications on that one.
IronE.GLE wrote:Soloman wrote:not sure if you are a blind idiot or Liar but since you want to make a blatantly disprovable statement again here is a simple google search link... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ko ... gle+Search Detlef your just as sad...All this further proves why you cannot get the new system basic comprehension of what is right before you seems to be absentdetlef wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.
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Damn, I wished I'd bothered to look that up! Though, in fair disclosure, the fat woman joke I found actually started "yo mama's so fat". I think we're going to need to get an official word on the racial implications on that one.
Ummm..... yeah. So that is the exact same search I did and there is NOTHING about racist kool aid jokes. Why don't you actually provide an explanation or examples of such bigoted statements, because I'd really like to understand your point of view. Even Wikipedia has absolutely no mention of racial slander on the Kool aid page, and don't say Wiki weeds out racist stuff because some asshat put "WHITE POWER" on the Nikola Tesla page and its been there for a year.
While you are thinking of your next run-on sentence to post, you should try this Google search.

detlef wrote:Can I humbly request that this thread be sent to Flame Wars so we can take off the gloves?
IronE.GLE wrote:detlef wrote:Can I humbly request that this thread be sent to Flame Wars so we can take off the gloves?
Oh come on now, there is absolutely no need to go there detlef. Degrading and making fun of Alaskan people shouldn't be part of this discussion. I now understand what Soloman was talking about and I have to agree that you are racist! Or....... did you mean something else by your "gloves" statement?

IronE.GLE wrote:Soloman wrote:not sure if you are a blind idiot or Liar but since you want to make a blatantly disprovable statement again here is a simple google search link... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ko ... gle+Search Detlef your just as sad...All this further proves why you cannot get the new system basic comprehension of what is right before you seems to be absentdetlef wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.
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Damn, I wished I'd bothered to look that up! Though, in fair disclosure, the fat woman joke I found actually started "yo mama's so fat". I think we're going to need to get an official word on the racial implications on that one.
Ummm..... yeah. So that is the exact same search I did and there is NOTHING about racist kool aid jokes. Why don't you actually provide an explanation or examples of such bigoted statements, because I'd really like to understand your point of view. Even Wikipedia has absolutely no mention of racial slander on the Kool aid page, and don't say Wiki weeds out racist stuff because some asshat put "WHITE POWER" on the Nikola Tesla page and its been there for a year.
While you are thinking of your next run-on sentence to post, you should try this Google search.
Soloman wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:Soloman wrote:not sure if you are a blind idiot or Liar but since you want to make a blatantly disprovable statement again here is a simple google search link... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ko ... gle+Search Detlef your just as sad...All this further proves why you cannot get the new system basic comprehension of what is right before you seems to be absentdetlef wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:I see that you have chosen to completely ignore my last post, instead opting to post incorrect information about Kool aide jokes in reference to Barak Obama. Every reference of Kool aide and Obama are in fact related to the Jonestown incident. They are likening Obama to Jones and likening Obama supporters to the blind followers of Jones. Had you actually done a Google search, you would have read this too.
I've just spent the last hour trying to find any racial connotation to Kool aid jokes and I cannot find a single racial Kool aide joke. Not a single one! There are however, blonde kool aide jokes (she couldn't fit 8 cups of water into the packet) and fat people kool aide jokes (she wore a red sweater and everyone yelled Oh YEAH!) but not a single racial comment.
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Damn, I wished I'd bothered to look that up! Though, in fair disclosure, the fat woman joke I found actually started "yo mama's so fat". I think we're going to need to get an official word on the racial implications on that one.
Ummm..... yeah. So that is the exact same search I did and there is NOTHING about racist kool aid jokes. Why don't you actually provide an explanation or examples of such bigoted statements, because I'd really like to understand your point of view. Even Wikipedia has absolutely no mention of racial slander on the Kool aid page, and don't say Wiki weeds out racist stuff because some asshat put "WHITE POWER" on the Nikola Tesla page and its been there for a year.
While you are thinking of your next run-on sentence to post, you should try this Google search.
Hmm I listed a whole page full from the same search maybe we are using different Googles, I love how closet racists try and defend ignorant statements instead of just apologizing or even better admitting their ignorance and apologizing. You people have attempted to derail because your arguments do not hold weight against the system so it is better to get the thread banished by taking us as far off as possible. It at least holds true to form with your rationale behind attacking the rating system, which is a step beyond the old and a vast improvement.
The way tis new system works requires people to objectively look at things and use good judgment in rating. Yes some will abuse it like the old but it is much less arbitrary having the star ratings on categories then just random rants about your like or dislikes of a person. This system when coupled with common sense is simple so it does not need moderation, and was well thought out enough to average so as to compensate for the few abusers without having mod interference. It again when used properly gives a look at a persons playing style and personality.
Since it is an average it takes time before it will give a really full picture and as people learn the system and basis for grading it will level out. Those against this are passionately against it I understand that but instead of reveling in your ignorance and seeking reasons to justify it, try learning, understanding and using correctly, you may find it does work as it was designed to.Attitude is contagious so is ignorance, let go of both and it will be a better CC...

Fruitcake wrote:You talk with little substance soloman. You make rash statements, then ignore the responses. You completely confuse your own arguments, you fail to pursue a line of thought in any coherent way.
Quite frankly, if you are the champion of this new system, which you seem to have set yourself as (seeing as wicked has gone ominously quiet) then it comes as no surprise to me that so many abuse, misuse and manipulate said system.
I would think an apology from you is forthcoming as to your ignorant and rash statement concerning the upbringing of my my offspring. After all, you are the one who jumps on every bandwagon concerning the 'koolaid' references.
To paraphrase detlef, the words kettle, pot..........well unlike yourself I will not be personally vile towards someone.