The greatest country that ever existed

by **reminisco** on Sat May 10, 2008 4:35 pm

there's no option for the Galactic Empire.

or the Wookie Society on planet Wookieville.

by **Neoteny** on Sat May 10, 2008 5:15 pm

Uh-mer-i-cer!

by **AndrewLC** on Sat May 10, 2008 7:36 pm

0ojakeo0 wrote:Ancient Greece was the one with Mesopotamia right? They are obviously the best but due to my ignorance i voted USA

Please tell me you're kidding?

by **Ntetos** on Sun May 11, 2008 4:48 am

kumanovac wrote:Ancient Greece is was a small part of Ancient Macedonia in the time of Alexander The Great

Ancient Macedonians and Alexander were greek so it is the same thing.

joecoolfrog wrote:The single fact that English is the universal language rather settles this.

Greek used to be the universal language, then Latin. You can't know if this is going to last forever.

by **The1exile** on Sun May 11, 2008 4:50 am

Ntetos wrote:You can't know if this is going to last forever.

Lasting forever is not the qualification of current greatest. Outlasting others might be a good start, but still not everything.

by **Ruben Cassar** on Sun May 11, 2008 5:07 am

Two Yugoslavias? Hmm...why?

And anyway this poll doesn't make sense. Since the USA still exists today and many people on these fora are from the US it's obvious they will vote for their mother country.

The answer to this poll is simple: Roman Empire - the impact that the Roman Empire has had on the world (especially the Western World) can still be felt today in so many ways. Even the USA likes to associate itself with Ancient Rome to this day and age.

The British Empire comes in a close second in my book. Even the saying "the sun never sets on the British Empire" can give you an idea of the grandeur of that Empire...and let's not forget the British Empire saved the world during World War II especially in the initial stages of the war where it was fighting alone for 2 years or more. Ironically the British Empire has also contributed to make the USA what it is today.

by **Ntetos** on Sun May 11, 2008 5:08 am

The1exile wrote:
Ntetos wrote:You can't know if this is going to last forever.

Lasting forever is not the qualification of current greatest. Outlasting others might be a good start, but still not everything.

I don't disagree with you about it. All I am saying is that just because English is the universal language now doesn't make USA the greatest country that ever existed.

by **Ruben Cassar** on Sun May 11, 2008 5:16 am

comic boy wrote:What Language are we all using here

A language that is 70% made of Latin and French and around 20% of old German. The other 10% is a result of words added to all this.

by **icedagger** on Sun May 11, 2008 1:37 pm

Ntetos wrote:
The1exile wrote:
Ntetos wrote:You can't know if this is going to last forever.

Lasting forever is not the qualification of current greatest. Outlasting others might be a good start, but still not everything.

I don't disagree with you about it. All I am saying is that just because English is the universal language now doesn't make USA the greatest country that ever existed.

Still it was pretty impressive the way those Americans invented it right.. #-o

I voted France so it would have one vote.. shocked to see someone had already voted it

by **PLAYER57832** on Sun May 11, 2008 1:43 pm

Hopefully, most people are at least reasonably happy with the country in which they live.

However, the real answer is "yet to be determined". Hopefully, we will learn from our past mistakes and create a better world.

Though I am told the Chinese look to a "Golden Age" roughly 5000 years ago....

by **MeDeFe** on Sun May 11, 2008 1:50 pm

The nation-state is merely an arbitrary concept in order to divide humanity into 'us' and 'them', it benefited the ruling class because it gave them an excuse to force people into line. They merely had to point to all the other groups and say "Look at those, if you don't follow our commands they will come here and kill and rape us all, but if you follow us we can be the ones to conquer them".

Discuss.

by **PLAYER57832** on Sun May 11, 2008 2:22 pm

MeDeFe wrote:The nation-state is merely an arbitrary concept in order to divide humanity into 'us' and 'them', it benefited the ruling class because it gave them an excuse to force people into line. They merely had to point to all the other groups and say "Look at those, if you don't follow our commands they will come here and kill and rape us all, but if you follow us we can be the ones to conquer them".

Discuss.

There is certainly some truth to that.
However, there are many practicalities such as building roads, maintaining general order and so forth that require government of one form or another.

by **The1exile** on Sun May 11, 2008 2:25 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:However, there are many practicalities such as building roads, maintaining general order and so forth that require government of one form or another.

Sure, but they could (theoretically, at least) be dealt with perfectly well with a decent ecumenopolis.

by **jonesthecurl** on Mon May 12, 2008 1:28 pm

Incidentally, The Roman Empire was an empire, not a country. Hence the name .
Same for other "empires".
The Soviet Union was a Union, not a country, hence the name.
Ancient Greece was not a single country.
Colonial Britain was four countries, even if we forget the colonies.

For most of the world, the obsession with "nationhood" is relatively recent. (18th century on).

by **t-o-m** on Mon May 12, 2008 2:34 pm

this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada

by **Snorri1234** on Mon May 12, 2008 3:43 pm

t-o-m wrote:this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada

Therefore I'm going to vote for China.

by **t-o-m** on Mon May 12, 2008 3:44 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
t-o-m wrote:this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada

Therefore I'm going to vote for China.

lol those comunist bastards?
meh...

by **heavycola** on Mon May 12, 2008 3:52 pm

Tyr wrote:greatest country ever? Def america

'America' is two entire continents. Your post is meaningless.

Also, I think the OP meant 'great' as in 'illustrious' and 'renowned', not 'fat'.
Although if he did mean fat, then i have to vote USA too.

by **Snorri1234** on Mon May 12, 2008 3:52 pm

t-o-m wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
t-o-m wrote:this is obviously gonna be bias, most of the members on here are from the USA or canada

Therefore I'm going to vote for China.

lol those comunist bastards?
meh...

They is teh future!

by **muy_thaiguy** on Mon May 12, 2008 5:34 pm

heavycola wrote:
Tyr wrote:greatest country ever? Def america

'America' is two entire continents. Your post is meaningless.

Also, I think the OP meant 'great' as in 'illustrious' and 'renowned', not 'fat'.
Although if he did mean fat, then i have to vote USA too.

Honestly, did you forget the North American/South American Union that Bush is so obviously doing without letting anyone else, including the Brazilians and Mexicans know? Geez.

by **Nobunaga** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:49 am

... television
... the airplane
... man on the moon
... the light bulb
... air conditioning
... the Internet
... the automobile
... the personal computer
... (probably other big ones)

... The USA. (though I've serious doubts about our ability to continue this trend)

...

by **Dancing Mustard** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:59 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:Honestly, did you forget the North American/South American Union that Bush is so obviously doing without letting anyone else, including the Brazilians and Mexicans know? Geez.

Fear the Amero...

It's definitely not just the product of made-up rumours and wild, baseless conjecture. It's a completely real thing that is certainly going to really happen. In real life. For real. Absolutely.

by **khazalid** on Tue May 13, 2008 6:05 am

Nobunaga wrote:
... television - john logie baird - scotland then canada
... the airplane
... man on the moon - BS!
... the light bulb
... air conditioning
... the Internet - BS!
... the automobile
... the personal computer - charles babbage - english
... (probably other big ones)

... The USA. (though I've serious doubts about our ability to continue this trend)

...

corrections

by **joecoolfrog** on Tue May 13, 2008 6:29 am

khazalid wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
... television - john logie baird - scotland then canada
... the airplane - yes but the jet engine was invented by Frank Whittle ( British )
... man on the moon - BS!
... the light bulb ( not much good without electricity - inventor of first dynamo/generator Farraday ( British )
... air conditioning ( see above )
... the Internet - BS! Nope Tim Berners Lee ( British )
... the automobile - Nope Benz and Daimler ( German )
... the personal computer - charles babbage - english
... (probably other big ones)

... The USA. (though I've serious doubts about our ability to continue this trend)

...

corrections