Why does the rest of the world hate America

[ksslemp]

There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?

Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?

Have the UAE ever appointed themselves as World Policeman?

No, but i wish they would.
Americans are tired of doing it.

I thought this is what the U.N. was set up for.
( I hear they've appointed a committee to look into the prospect of having a committee look into the issue. ) They should have a rough draft by 2012!

Yes, it's a shame the U.N. can't hold back its renegade members from invading and attacking others, even breaking its Resolutions in the process.

UAE armed forces in their barracks within their own borders

No the UAE is too small to be the worlds policeman...but I'm sure it couldn't do a worse job

Americans love being the world police.....the police can often get away with breaking the law

WHATEVER!

welll how would u think if some huge country invaded urs just to "protect" u?

Well, I guess it would depend on what my country was like.

For Example: If i were an Iraqi i would say THANK YOU!

[Stopper]

welll how would u think if some huge country invaded urs just to "protect" u?[/quote]


Well, I guess it would depend on what my country was like.

For Example: If i were an Iraqi i would say THANK YOU![/quote]


Oh my goodness, there are many ill-informed posts here, but THAT takes the biscuit!

[Joe McCarthy]

Why? Maybe you dont know much about life under Hussein and how many people he murdered for saying the wrong thing about him or the children he threw in prison to intimidate their parents. Any human being would be grateful to be freed from that.

[Stopper]

With murders running at 100 a day, militias and terrorists running riot all over the place, the Americans and the British controlling little beyond their own barracks, I dare say few Iraqis would be shouting "thank you" to anyone.

There was a 40 minute documentary on the BBC three days ago - which was a film that had been smuggled out by an Iraqi doctor - and it showed the chaos of daily life in Baghdad, with hospitals lacking in basic medical supplies.

The most memorable scene was a five-minute journey in the back of an ambulance with 4 co-workers who had just been injured by a bomb. They all ranted on about how bad life was now, until finally a Shia, not Sunni, woman in the group started screaming for the return of Saddam, because at least living under his rule was better than what they had now.

Now, I don't like psychopathic despots like Saddam any more than anyone else does, but the US and Britain were never going to bring peace & democracy to the place by declaring war on it, and anyway, I don't believe they attacked for humanitarian reasons in the first place.

[ksslemp]

Well they actually did Thank us when we ousted Saddam, so we've already received that. America has already stated that if the Iraqi government wants the coalition forces to leave, then all they have to do is ask!

They appear to be too SMART for that.

The woman that was screaming to bring back Saddam was probably part of the ruling party and had it easy. While other iraqi were dragged off the street, tortured and buried in one of the many mass graves. She is an idiot! who would trade freedom for security.

Iraq will be fine, as soon as one "Peace" loving Muslim sect stops killing the other "Peace" loving Muslim sects.

[Joe McCarthy]

I think I have an idea now on why you have this view, youre getting the wrong info:

There was a 40 minute documentary on the BBC three days ago...

Clicky

[Stopper]

The Iraqi government (such as it is) can't tell the Americans to leave. No-one seriously believes the Americans will leave until they're good and ready, if ever. Britain will do whatever the Americans say, too.

The woman and her co-workers were, according to the doctor filming, Shia, not Sunni, and I would say it's a fair bet she never received any special treatment from Saddam's government. I picked her out because it was a memorable part of the film, but seeing and reading about the conditions the Iraqis live under, I wouldn't be surprised if ordinary Iraqis did wish the Americans had never invaded.

I'm well aware of the Franklin quote about those who would trade liberty for security, but I doubt he had today's Iraq in mind!

[Stopper]

I think I have an idea now on why you have this view, youre getting the wrong info:

There was a 40 minute documentary on the BBC three days ago...

Clicky

Apart from the fact that the Daily Mail is rabidly opposed to the BBC, because the Daily Mail is itself a extreme right-wing rag (which, incidentally, supported the British Union of Fascists and thought a Hitler a decent chap before WWII), this article is just talking about the BBC in general, and not specifically its news section.

I defy you to find a Daily Mail article after 2004 which thinks the situation in Iraq is going well, or attacks the BBC for being too anti-British government! Why? Because it's also rabidly opposed to the supposedly left-wing Tony Blair & his Labour government.

[ksslemp]

The difference between you and me is that i actually do believe that if the Iraqi Gov't asked the coalition to leave, the coalition would leave.

President Bush has in the past said that we're not going to set a timetable for leaving Iraq and just today the Iraqi PM said timetables are good.

They have'nt asked us to leave because it would make the situation worse.

But what do I know, I'm just an "Average American" like homer simpson i guess.

[Pedronicus]

Kyoto is complete bullshit. Would cost a fortune and do next to no good at all. Its really just a way to mess with the US as everybody knew we would never do it and there would be a nice thing to beat us up with for a few years.

Joe - Do you believe in global warming? It's getting easier to spot in this country for sure - I've not seen it snow in London and settle on the ground in over 4 years. (It used to snow and settle every single year when I was a kid - I'm only 37)

Sure, cutting emissions isn't going to be cheap - but we are at a stage where something has to be done & bleating about the cost is a shortsighted view.

What cc is your cars engine?
My current car is 1250cc - (my last car was 1800cc and the fuel savings are significant)

Do you ever walk to the shops?
I certainly do

When you take a flight are all the seats full?
they are over here when I go on holiday - (And I've not been abroad for a holiday for over 2 years)

Industry in this country has been decimated by VOC (volatile organic compound) emissions.
The last company I worked for, that had a factory, closed due to the cost of installing a new powder coating plant and replacing the trichloroethane degreasing plant with a 3 stage water wash plant to clean the product before painting.

Other larger companies in a similar line of manufacturing managed to install these items of plant to conform to the new European legislation - but they struggled to match prices from overseas companies.

The answer would of been for English people to buy English products - But price governs everything in business, and they buy items manufactured overseas.

So yeah - I lost my job, and jobs in factories / design offices in England have disappeared at an alarming rate in the last 10 years. But change, how matter how painful - has to be made by countries rich enough, with a skilled enough labour force that can find jobs in other fields.

In fifty years, without any change by America, my house will be worth nothing as it will be in the fucking sea.

[Stopper]

Kyoto is complete bullshit. Would cost a fortune and do next to no good at all. Its really just a way to mess with the US as everybody knew we would never do it and there would be a nice thing to beat us up with for a few years.

Oh come on! Not everything is about the US! Britain supports the Kyoto protocol, and carbon dioxide is a matter of politics over here now, and yet Mr Blair is always on your Mr Bush's side when it comes to every other foreign policy.

If not for us, do it for Mr Blair! The poodle feels lonely supporting the Americans all the time! Why won't you throw him a bone?!

[Econ2000]

I am afraid my friend I must ask you to take a good look around yourself and rethink your last statement.

we are supposed to have a constitution.

we had a constitution.

now we have a peice of paper that no one in power cares anything about. If you take a look at the laws on the books, nine out of ten are a violation of the constitution. but that does not stop them from arresting people for them every day.

our society, and the constitution it was founded on are long gone. now we live in a two party dictatorship where the people with power and money decide what we do and do not do each day of our life. the only difference between the us and north korea is we try to cover up our shit and they air it daily.

I wish the constitution was still valid. it would make living in the usa so much better every day.

very suprising comment im not sure that i could agree on

[Econ2000]

Hmmm... what to choose.

Meh, let's see:

The Kyoto agreement.

Wrong forum, this goes under "Why does the world hate China"!

Lol, eveyrthing you say is null and void as your american ignorance speaks wonders with that statement.

DITTO! "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
"You give them Books, and what do they do? They Eat the pages"!

you have to learn a lesson on being racist!

[Joe McCarthy]

Its not a question of believing in global warming, its a question of what good the Kyoto protocols would do versus what they would cost. Look at what the treaty calls for, find out what it would cost, and see how much good it would do towards solving the problem. I did years ago and the answer is that it would do almost nothing to stop global warming, next to zilch. However, it will come at a HUGE cost, in fact it would be disasterous for the economy of every nation on the planet. There is no good reason to be for it, in fact the only argument for it goes like this: "im concerned about global warming and am in favor of any effort to address it. Kyoto addresses it. Ergo, I am for Kyoto." Look any harder at that treaty and see what it actually does and you will be oppposed to it.

[Econ2000]

terrafirma, I'd quit while you're ... ahead. You're doing nothing but making the rest of us intelligent Americans look bad with your ignorance.

Did anyone saying all this crap about the Brits and French getting their asses handed to them by Nazi Germany stop to think that once Hitler was done with Europe, he was coming across the Atlantic to crush Americans? Don't you dare say it wouldn't have happened, because it would have.

Hitler viewed the United States as the weakest link and his plans for us Americans was last in line. Not because he was saving the toughest for last mind you, but because he felt he was saving the WEAKEST for last. Mein Kampf says it all.

American intervention in World War II may have turned the tides in the Allied Forces favor, but it was not such intervention that lead to the ultimate defeat and collapse of Nazi Germany. It was an effort that saw blood shed from every country involved in the fight against tyranny. Every soldier... America, British, French, Soviet, Canadian, etc., deserves to be honored for their sacrifices to make sure YOU can be here today speaking your mind. And not to downtalk them like you're doing now. If my grandfather were alive to hear you speaking of the Europeans like you are, he'd strangle you with the same hands he raised up arms with along side the Brits. It is because of my grandfather and his war stories that I learned to respect every man and woman who laid down their lives during that time.

America was fighting a war on two fronts. The Pacific Theater was the bloodiest foreign campaign ever seen in American history, even more so than Normandy and further ahead in history... Vietnam. The Japanese were cutting down American Marines left and right while in the Atlantic Theater, British, American and Soviet forces were pushing hard into Berlin. American forces were so thin in the Pacific Theater at the time that the Allies agreed to let the Soviets march into Berlin alone so the Americans could recall forces over to the Pacific. After all, Stalin had a hard on for Hitler and the Allies were confident the Soviets could handle it on their own.

Don't badmouth your friends across the pond. They've done more for you than you can imagine.

ok i admit i lied im actually chinese....... I totally agree on wat u said...
hey terrafirma u no how many chinese civilians died in WWII?? at highest 20million! Half of my great-grand parents were among that number. One of my great-grand parents did as much as he could! And guess wat? ur the one sitting on ur butt acting like the US is the best and their the "savior"?

[ksslemp]

Hmmm... what to choose.

Meh, let's see:

The Kyoto agreement.

Wrong forum, this goes under "Why does the world hate China"!

Lol, eveyrthing you say is null and void as your american ignorance speaks wonders with that statement.

DITTO! "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
"You give them Books, and what do they do? They Eat the pages"!

you have to learn a lesson on being racist!

What are you talking about?
Nothing i've said is Racist!

[Joe McCarthy]

Hmmm... what to choose.

Meh, let's see:

The Kyoto agreement.

Wrong forum, this goes under "Why does the world hate China"!

Lol, eveyrthing you say is null and void as your american ignorance speaks wonders with that statement.

DITTO! "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
"You give them Books, and what do they do? They Eat the pages"!

you have to learn a lesson on being racist!

What are you talking about?
Nothing i've said is Racist!

haha. Dude you ought to know by now thats a standard lefty shot across the bow. Cant argue politics withough one firing that off. Usually they do it in some kind of context though unlike this one, lol.

YOU RACIST!!!111!!!

[qeee1]

Lets tar lefties for some guys idiocy...

[Joe McCarthy]

Fair enough, but its a common thing a lefty will lay on a righty. But not all do it, so cheers.

[ksslemp]

It was so ridiculous, i thought it must be a joke.

[mr. incrediball]

all of you people saying that the iraq war had any meaning, it didn't, there were no weapons of mass destruction, and if the americans were really going in to "free the people" why didn't they do that to places like the soviet union under that bastard stalin? it was about oil, and britain would never have had to go in for this stupidity if we had a prime minister with a backbone

[Joe McCarthy]

Yeah its cool, all that free oil we get from Iraq.

[ksslemp]

all of you people saying that the iraq war had any meaning, it didn't, there were no weapons of mass destruction, and if the americans were really going in to "free the people" why didn't they do that to places like the soviet union under that bastard stalin? it was about oil, and britain would never have had to go in for this stupidity if we had a prime minister with a backbone

If only you'd have made this statement earlier in this post, i could have skipped your other posts and saved myself a lot of time.

You've stuck stupidity, and it's a "Gusher"!

I'm sorry to be insulting, but there is no reasoning with someone who believes the War was over oil.

[Backglass]

I'm sorry to be insulting, but there is no reasoning with someone who believes the War was over oil.

Of course not. George W. Bush said we are there to remove Saddam Hussein from power because he is en evil man and had weapons of Mass Destruction.

WMD'S? - Check
Evil Hussein? - Check

"Mission Accomplished" - GWB

Bring our fine men home.

[hitandrun]

All Iraqi wars have been about oil somewhere along the line. From England invading Iraq during the first world war, right up to the recent invasion. Let us not forget Saddam had just started selling his oil in Euros and not US$, thats got to piss the yanks off!