Why does the rest of the world hate America

[terrafirma]

for the first reply you obvously dont no anything aobut the kyoto agreement or else you would only hate the countries that signed not the US.

explain

not allof the protocaol is bad but there are some oarts that make it useless. for instance a country with emissions lower the the limit can sell its excess polution to another country. that doesnt solve the polution problem that just makes an industry out of excess polution sales

YES, which creates an incentive for countries to reduce emissions.
Not a Bad thing or a Useless thing, but A GOOD THING!

it wouldnt be a good thing f*ck head because if the country sellin its excess poluttion had as much brains as you do collectible plates then they would sell the pollution at a pirce that would be cheaper then converting to cleaner technology

[terrafirma]

most americans are alright, but there are some (adults included) who are just SO BLOODY ARROGANT! i can't stress enough that i'm talking about the minority here, but it's those people who

1: think no-one did anything in wwII 'til the us showed up

2: seriously need to think of others

3: have u ever seen that simpsons episode where they go to england? there are two things homer says that demonstrate my point:
a) "Would an american DOLLAR convince you to leave us alone?"
b) "hello, we're from everyone's favourite country, the USA"4: frankly, it's just plain rude to think we get exited when people give us dollars (btw, i should point out that an english pound is worth almost twice as much as a dollar), and fyi my favourite country, (like many ppls) is my HOME! and even then, it's japan that comes 2nd

that's the reason many hate america, i'm not saying everyone in america does those things, but it's the few that do that really spoil your otherwise wonderful country

your right you guys did do something before we got there. you got your ass kicked. germany took over most countries in a matter of weeks. and if had just one more braincell he would have invaded the shit out of england. and you know what? it owuld have been easy as hell to invade you guys cause you left all your shit at dunkirk for the krauts to pick up

and another thing how long has homer simpson been the represnetitiave of the average american? he has 3 hairs and he is yellow

[terrafirma]

The poll question is stupid. That question seems to ask if I hated all individual Americans, which is plainly ridiculous.

But considering what people've talked about on this thread (Iraq, terrorists, Kyoto) wouldn't a better question be "Do you, as a foreigner OR an American, hate the Republican administration?" You'd probably get more Yesses then.

you know it was a democratic administration that refused to sign right?

[ksslemp]

for the first reply you obvously dont no anything aobut the kyoto agreement or else you would only hate the countries that signed not the US.

explain

not allof the protocaol is bad but there are some oarts that make it useless. for instance a country with emissions lower the the limit can sell its excess polution to another country. that doesnt solve the polution problem that just makes an industry out of excess polution sales

YES, which creates an incentive for countries to reduce emissions.
Not a Bad thing or a Useless thing, but A GOOD THING!

it wouldnt be a good thing f*ck head because if the country sellin its excess poluttion had as much brains as you do collectible plates then they would sell the pollution at a pirce that would be cheaper then converting to cleaner technology

Hey Dumbshit! Its a credit, not a currency!
Have the intelligence to keep your mouth shut when you have no friggin' idea what you're talking about.

Or maybe you were just joking? (Yea, that must be it).
If so, that was funny!

[richporter]

terrafirma, I'd quit while you're ... ahead. You're doing nothing but making the rest of us intelligent Americans look bad with your ignorance.

Did anyone saying all this crap about the Brits and French getting their asses handed to them by Nazi Germany stop to think that once Hitler was done with Europe, he was coming across the Atlantic to crush Americans? Don't you dare say it wouldn't have happened, because it would have.

Hitler viewed the United States as the weakest link and his plans for us Americans was last in line. Not because he was saving the toughest for last mind you, but because he felt he was saving the WEAKEST for last. Mein Kampf says it all.

American intervention in World War II may have turned the tides in the Allied Forces favor, but it was not such intervention that lead to the ultimate defeat and collapse of Nazi Germany. It was an effort that saw blood shed from every country involved in the fight against tyranny. Every soldier... America, British, French, Soviet, Canadian, etc., deserves to be honored for their sacrifices to make sure YOU can be here today speaking your mind. And not to downtalk them like you're doing now. If my grandfather were alive to hear you speaking of the Europeans like you are, he'd strangle you with the same hands he raised up arms with along side the Brits. It is because of my grandfather and his war stories that I learned to respect every man and woman who laid down their lives during that time.

America was fighting a war on two fronts. The Pacific Theater was the bloodiest foreign campaign ever seen in American history, even more so than Normandy and further ahead in history... Vietnam. The Japanese were cutting down American Marines left and right while in the Atlantic Theater, British, American and Soviet forces were pushing hard into Berlin. American forces were so thin in the Pacific Theater at the time that the Allies agreed to let the Soviets march into Berlin alone so the Americans could recall forces over to the Pacific. After all, Stalin had a hard on for Hitler and the Allies were confident the Soviets could handle it on their own.

Don't badmouth your friends across the pond. They've done more for you than you can imagine.

[Stopper]

The poll question is stupid. That question seems to ask if I hated all individual Americans, which is plainly ridiculous.

But considering what people've talked about on this thread (Iraq, terrorists, Kyoto) wouldn't a better question be "Do you, as a foreigner OR an American, hate the Republican administration?" You'd probably get more Yesses then.

you know it was a democratic administration that refused to sign right?

You mean Kyoto? Well, no, it was a Republican president & a republican-controlled senate that refused to ratify it as far as I remember. (But they can change their minds at any point, as far as I'm aware, so who originally refused it is not an issue)

Anyway, I was referring to the crap question - "Do you Hate America?" I mean that sounds like it was drafted by a mad paranoiac. Don't confuse Republican-hating with American-hating.

[Econ2000]

I am a foreigner that lives in the US. I don't HATE america its just that i really would like for the US to not get in the way of other people's countries. For example when they invaded iraq did the iraqi CITIZENS not leaders allow u to? I mean its ok to kill overthrow saddam and kill terrorists that harm u but do u really need to go against North Korea and
stop them against making nuclear weapons? I mean in the 2nd admendment it says u have the right to bear arms. Now since US thinks the world will be a better place if everywhere is democracy does it not mean that every country including poor countries get at least a fair chance of being a rich, developed country? Also, I may be wrong about this but y is the US the only country that has white supremisist group? (I'm white)I just think since there is democracy shouldn't everybody get a fair chance at everything? I think when the country was being created someone said "All men are created equal" doesn't that apply to the white suppremisist groups?

American citizens I am very sorry if I have offended you but can we plz talk in a civilized manner without personal attacks/insults or profainaty plz? I would greatly appreciate this thank you.

Econ2000

[Econ2000]

People hate America because A) We are the richest country in the world (greed) B) We are the most powerful country in the world C) We start wars on countries D) We get into stuff that is none of our business (Isreal and Pakistan)
There are others, but those are the most obvious

What you say is also correct in my opinion

[richporter]

It's called "interests." For hundreds of years other powers have been involved in the affairs of other countries to save their "interests" in the region. This is not a problem that is unique to the United States.

Does anyone really want a nuclear North Korea? We're talking about an isolated communist state that starves its people in favor of military power. North Korea was a very very bad example. In any case I have my money on China being the nation that marches into North Korea before any other.

Your gross interpretation of the Second Amendment applies to American citizens, strictly so they may rise against a tyranical and corrupt government in order to oppose it. North Korea and nuclear arms does not apply.

The U.S. has strong ties to democracy but is not a democracy. It is a federal republic. Don't listen to the US State Department or propaganda when they tell you that the U.S. is preserving democracy. There is no such thing.

You are wrong. White supremacy exists everywhere. I have a friend in Russia who is a white supremacist. There is a political party in the United Kingdom that boasts white supremacy. I can't remember which. Perhaps I'll dig for the name or someone from the U.K. can help in that regard.

"All men are created equal" is a phrase used in the Declaration of Independence and made more popular by Abraham Lincoln in the Gettysburg Address. How would that apply to white supremacy, which completely piss on the idea of it?

[Stopper]

Also, I may be wrong about this but y is the US the only country that has white supremisist group? [/size][/b]

Econ2000

Yeah, you're wrong there, Britain has the British National Party, France the Front Nationale, and there are neo-Nazis in Germany, but I can't remember what they're called. Let's not mention Jorg Haider in Austria, and the Northern League in Italy. It goes on, it really does.

[Stopper]

I seem to have replied at the same time as the man with a scarier avatar than mine.

[qeee1]

terra, you're really making your side look bad, I'm not even arguing with you anymore.

As regards developing countries, they tend not to have industry and so no major pollution. That said, it wouldn't be such a horrible thing if developing countries received money.

As regards American's trying very hard to reduce pollution, perhaps they are, but emissions are still going up instead of down, so it's obviously not enough. There's not enough push to implement them.

I don't think the average American is against implementation of Kyoto, or the reduction of pollution.

Where does the real opposition to Kyoto lie?

Implementation of the protocol would threaten the profits of oil companies and auto manufacturers, as they would be pushed to implement better fuel efficiency. Both these groups heavily supported our friend, G.W. (an opponent of the protocol) in the 2000 election.

... something to think about.

[terrafirma]

for the first reply you obvously dont no anything aobut the kyoto agreement or else you would only hate the countries that signed not the US.

explain

not allof the protocaol is bad but there are some oarts that make it useless. for instance a country with emissions lower the the limit can sell its excess polution to another country. that doesnt solve the polution problem that just makes an industry out of excess polution sales

YES, which creates an incentive for countries to reduce emissions.
Not a Bad thing or a Useless thing, but A GOOD THING!

it wouldnt be a good thing f*ck head because if the country sellin its excess poluttion had as much brains as you do collectible plates then they would sell the pollution at a pirce that would be cheaper then converting to cleaner technology

Hey Dumbshit! Its a credit, not a currency!
Have the intelligence to keep your mouth shut when you have no friggin' idea what you're talking about.

Or maybe you were just joking? (Yea, that must be it).
If so, that was funny!

where do you get off calling me dumb. you seel the excess pollution for what...? currency! and if the countries with extra polltuion sell it for less then what do you get? a industry to replace lcean technology! why convert to newer cleaner technology when you can buy the right to pump pollution into the air? if you gonna throw around names at least make sure your justified

[terrafirma]

terra, you're really making your side look bad, I'm not even arguing with you anymore.

As regards developing countries, they tend not to have industry and so no major pollution. That said, it wouldn't be such a horrible thing if developing countries received money.

As regards American's trying very hard to reduce pollution, perhaps they are, but emissions are still going up instead of down, so it's obviously not enough. There's not enough push to implement them.

I don't think the average American is against implementation of Kyoto, or the reduction of pollution.

Where does the real opposition to Kyoto lie?

Implementation of the protocol would threaten the profits of oil companies and auto manufacturers, as they would be pushed to implement better fuel efficiency. Both these groups heavily supported our friend, G.W. (an opponent of the protocol) in the 2000 election.

... something to think about.

you know who also suported G.W.? the goddam boy scouts! you think they are secretly controling the world like oil companies are? every time a president does something that happens to help some coorporation all of a sudden that company is in league with bush to control the country. i bet democratic canidates have gotten donations form oil companies too so it's not just the president. i am not defending him because lets face it hes a retard but he is not the source of our problems niether is big business or terrorists or labor unions or anything else people throw around to make themsleves appear clean while they are covered in political mud too. the problem with this country is( and i hate to sound like a whiny 3rd party person(which i am) but i gotta say it) that people vote strictly along party lines nowadays. people care about which party controls the house and senate because the want to know what bills will pass. a bill in the senate has zero chance if a democrat puts it up and its a republican senate. politicians are the problem bascially. when a country with representitave government has a job called a politician then there is a problem. when someones job is to run and hope they get elected they will take money from anyoneif it gets them even one more vote.

now back to the protocol. Developing countries can get money some other way they shouldnt sell their excess polution. they could sell some exces land if they really needed the money. the kyoto protocol has flaws and i dont see america signing it till they are fixed. now next topic please!

[OnlyAmbrose]

I am a foreigner that lives in the US. I don't HATE america its just that i really would like for the US to not get in the way of other people's countries. For example when they invaded iraq did the iraqi CITIZENS not leaders allow u to? I mean its ok to kill overthrow saddam and kill terrorists that harm u but do u really need to go against North Korea and
stop them against making nuclear weapons? I mean in the 2nd admendment it says u have the right to bear arms. Now since US thinks the world will be a better place if everywhere is democracy does it not mean that every country including poor countries get at least a fair chance of being a rich, developed country? Also, I may be wrong about this but y is the US the only country that has white supremisist group? (I'm white)I just think since there is democracy shouldn't everybody get a fair chance at everything? I think when the country was being created someone said "All men are created equal" doesn't that apply to the white suppremisist groups?

American citizens I am very sorry if I have offended you but can we plz talk in a civilized manner without personal attacks/insults or profainaty plz? I would greatly appreciate this thank you.

Econ2000

Firstly, I'm not offended at all, you raise points which I'm sure many foreigners (and people in the US) would bring up, and I'll do my best to answer them

Ok, I'll go step by step:

i really would like for the US to not get in the way of other people's countries. For example when they invaded iraq did the iraqi CITIZENS not leaders allow u to?

I'm not sure you're suggesting we did. Send diplomats into a near-totalitarian state and ask around to see if the citizens are enjoying themselves? That's just a tad ridiculous to ask for several reasons, one of which is that it was a crime in Iraq to say anything against Saddam. What's more, the LEADERS didn't "allow us to", and frankly I don't give a damn what Saddam thought about our invading "his" country. He killed thousands of Kurds in a situation similar to the Holocaust of WWII. We don't need to ask permission from a corrupt and genocidal dictator to remove him from power. In my opinion.

and kill terrorists that harm u but do u really need to go against North Korea and
stop them against making nuclear weapons?

Kill terrorists? Well, considering that they seem intent on killing us, I wouldn't mind seeing them jailed or part of a smoking crater, if it will protect our country. That's like asking you this: If someone broke into your house and shot your mother, and then pointed the gun at your sister, would you just sit around and do nothing?

Regarding North Korea, most of the UNITED NATIONS are asking N Korea to cease their nuclear weapons programs, including, I believe, China. This isn't just a US thing, the entire world sees N Korea's nuclear program as a threat to world peace. North Korea is under leadership of a dictator whose rather questionable actions are not unknown, and I don't think it would be below him to give such weapons to terrorist organizations who would USE them. THAT is the real fear- not that N Korea will use them, but that they will give them to someone who WILL.

I mean in the 2nd admendment it says u have the right to bear arms.

Firstly, the Bill of Rights guarantees CITIZENS certain rights so as to prevent the federal government from opressing them. That has absolutely nothing to do with international politics. Secondly, we're not talking about pea-shooters here; we're talking about weapons capable of leveling entire cities and spreading their effects across great areas of land. That is NOT what the constitution had in mind. I daresay I have no right to bear nuclear weapons.

Now since US thinks the world will be a better place if everywhere is democracy does it not mean that every country including poor countries get at least a fair chance of being a rich, developed country?

That is, quite frankly, against the basic laws of economics. It is impossible for every country to be a rich, developed country, because there is only so much capital in the world. What's more, I don't see what that has to do with spreading democracy.

Also, I may be wrong about this but y is the US the only country that has white supremisist group? (I'm white)I just think since there is democracy shouldn't everybody get a fair chance at everything? I think when the country was being created someone said "All men are created equal" doesn't that apply to the white suppremisist groups?

The US is DEFINATELY not the only country with a white supremist group. They're everywhere, I hate to break it to you. Fortunately, they are a minority.

However, they have every right to exist. The first amendment guarantees freedom of speech, and if someone wants to believe that whites are better than all other races, they have a constitutional right to do so. There can be black supremist groups too, and for all I know there is one, but these groups are ridiculously insignificant fringe parties that you rarely hear anything about.

[qeee1]

terra, you're really making your side look bad, I'm not even arguing with you anymore.

As regards developing countries, they tend not to have industry and so no major pollution. That said, it wouldn't be such a horrible thing if developing countries received money.

As regards American's trying very hard to reduce pollution, perhaps they are, but emissions are still going up instead of down, so it's obviously not enough. There's not enough push to implement them.

I don't think the average American is against implementation of Kyoto, or the reduction of pollution.

Where does the real opposition to Kyoto lie?

Implementation of the protocol would threaten the profits of oil companies and auto manufacturers, as they would be pushed to implement better fuel efficiency. Both these groups heavily supported our friend, G.W. (an opponent of the protocol) in the 2000 election.

... something to think about.

you know who also suported G.W.? the goddam boy scouts! you think they are secretly controling the world like oil companies are? every time a president does something that happens to help some coorporation all of a sudden that company is in league with bush to control the country. i bet democratic canidates have gotten donations form oil companies too so it's not just the president. i am not defending him because lets face it hes a retard but he is not the source of our problems niether is big business or terrorists or labor unions or anything else people throw around to make themsleves appear clean while they are covered in political mud too. the problem with this country is( and i hate to sound like a whiny 3rd party person(which i am) but i gotta say it) that people vote strictly along party lines nowadays. people care about which party controls the house and senate because the want to know what bills will pass. a bill in the senate has zero chance if a democrat puts it up and its a republican senate. politicians are the problem bascially. when a country with representitave government has a job called a politician then there is a problem. when someones job is to run and hope they get elected they will take money from anyoneif it gets them even one more vote.

now back to the protocol. Developing countries can get money some other way they shouldnt sell their excess polution. they could sell some exces land if they really needed the money. the kyoto protocol has flaws and i dont see america signing it till they are fixed. now next topic please!

The difference between the boyscouts and oil and motor companies, are that oil and automobile companies are two of the most powerful lobbyist groups, while the boyscouts are just plain smelly.

Thing is, no protocol will be unassailable, in that you can't find any mud to sling at it, and attempt to use it as an excuse. Stop picking at the tiny things (which in my opinion you're wrong on anyway), and step up, and deal with the bigger LOOMING issue.

Anyway, despite the fact (in my last post) I pointed out how you missed the point, and pointed you on the road to recovery, you continue to miss the point.

As such this seems... pointless.

Good day sir.

[mr. incrediball]

most americans are alright, but there are some (adults included) who are just SO BLOODY ARROGANT! i can't stress enough that i'm talking about the minority here, but it's those people who

1: think no-one did anything in wwII 'til the us showed up

2: seriously need to think of others

3: have u ever seen that simpsons episode where they go to england? there are two things homer says that demonstrate my point:
a) "Would an american DOLLAR convince you to leave us alone?"
b) "hello, we're from everyone's favourite country, the USA"4: frankly, it's just plain rude to think we get exited when people give us dollars (btw, i should point out that an english pound is worth almost twice as much as a dollar), and fyi my favourite country, (like many ppls) is my HOME! and even then, it's japan that comes 2nd

that's the reason many hate america, i'm not saying everyone in america does those things, but it's the few that do that really spoil your otherwise wonderful country

your right you guys did do something before we got there. you got your ass kicked. germany took over most countries in a matter of weeks. and if had just one more braincell he would have invaded the shit out of england. and you know what? it owuld have been easy as hell to invade you guys cause you left all your shit at dunkirk for the krauts to pick up

and another thing how long has homer simpson been the represnetitiave of the average american? he has 3 hairs and he is yellow

actually, Hitler did trie to invade us, ever heard of the london blitz? london was gettin' bombed every other day until the RAF (royal air force) won the battle of britain and drove the nazis away...

and yes, homer simpson has ALWAYS supposed to be a representation of the avarege american, apart from being yellow.

[KoolBak]

And who, pray tell, does Bugs Bunny represent?

[Pedronicus]

Iraq is just like Nazi Germany. The only differences were that Iraq was to weak to take over as much land as Hitler did and the Iraqi people didn't like Saddam all that much

What a joke. This sums up why most of the rest of the world doesn’t like Americans. You spout utter bullshit that’s fed to you by an insular News network, which is totally wrong, and without substance.

For a start – Germany was in a state of serious depression following WW1 and Hitler got his country re armed to give the people work. They were very technologically advanced & at the end of WW2 – America spirited away the jet Engineers and aero dynamists because they were light years behind Germany. America’s vision of making a fighter plane in WW2 was to stick a fucking huge engine, in a suitably large airframe to accommodate said engine.

Willie Messerschmitt & RJ Mitchell designed far more elegant, smaller planes that offered a smaller target to the attacker, thus offering the pilots a greater chance of survival.

The same thing is happening today with American engineering. If you want to get a car to go fast – Americans stick a big engine in it or fuel it with some super explosive fuel. European (and Japanese) engineers understand how to tune an engine – and that’s the problem with all of America.

There is no subtlety to you as a nation.

[mr. incrediball]

^just to point out, a light year is a measure of distance (how far light travels in a year) rather than time

[qeee1]

^just to point out, a light year is a measure of distance (how far light travels in a year) rather than time

Yeah, but you can also say, "they were miles behind", implying a distance can work in this situation.

[mr. incrediball]

oh ye good point

[Mirak]

There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?

[terrafirma]

most americans are alright, but there are some (adults included) who are just SO BLOODY ARROGANT! i can't stress enough that i'm talking about the minority here, but it's those people who

1: think no-one did anything in wwII 'til the us showed up

2: seriously need to think of others

3: have u ever seen that simpsons episode where they go to england? there are two things homer says that demonstrate my point:
a) "Would an american DOLLAR convince you to leave us alone?"
b) "hello, we're from everyone's favourite country, the USA"4: frankly, it's just plain rude to think we get exited when people give us dollars (btw, i should point out that an english pound is worth almost twice as much as a dollar), and fyi my favourite country, (like many ppls) is my HOME! and even then, it's japan that comes 2nd

that's the reason many hate america, i'm not saying everyone in america does those things, but it's the few that do that really spoil your otherwise wonderful country

your right you guys did do something before we got there. you got your ass kicked. germany took over most countries in a matter of weeks. and if had just one more braincell he would have invaded the shit out of england. and you know what? it owuld have been easy as hell to invade you guys cause you left all your shit at dunkirk for the krauts to pick up

and another thing how long has homer simpson been the represnetitiave of the average american? he has 3 hairs and he is yellow

actually, Hitler did trie to invade us, ever heard of the london blitz? london was gettin' bombed every other day until the RAF (royal air force) won the battle of britain and drove the nazis away...

and yes, homer simpson has ALWAYS supposed to be a representation of the avarege american, apart from being yellow.

actually he didnt the plan to invade england was called operation sealion the blitz was a way to soften you guys up

[happysadfun]

There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?

Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?