Classic Map Touch-Up - Update: Live map changed

by **the_lion** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:20 pm

thegeneralpublic wrote:
Hsur wrote:I think the circles are a little to bright. They should be almost invisible.

The problem with doing this is that if there are blue armies on Europe or something similar, it becomes very hard to read the numbers. Brighter circles, while some people may not find them as aesthetically pleasing, ensure that no mistakes are made because of legibility.

no they don't. white and green both blend into the white too much. I was accustomed to the way that it looked. Now I have to re-a-fucking-just.

by **Dekloren** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:21 pm

CHANGE IT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **wicked** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:24 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:I'm sorry that you failed to say your grievances with this touch-up before it was quenched, but that option was open to you for three months.

I for one did, and yet it didn't make a difference. You're never going to get the majority of the community in the map foundry to comment. The intense negative reaction last time should've been a huge clue lighter is not the preferred way to go.

Perhaps next time, put up an announcement with the proposed map on the My Games page BEFORE it's put into play. That way you'll reach the majority of the players here, not just a small minority in the foundry.

by **Kaplowitz** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:26 pm

wicked wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I'm sorry that you failed to say your grievances with this touch-up before it was quenched, but that option was open to you for three months.

I for one did, and yet it didn't make a difference. You're never going to get the majority of the community in the map foundry to comment. The intense negative reaction last time should've been a huge clue lighter is not the preferred way to go.

Perhaps next time, put up an announcement with the proposed map on the My Games page BEFORE it's put into play. That way you'll reach the majority of the players here, not just a small minority in the foundry.

Yeah but the foundry is coool.

And thats why i think there should be a Map Foundry advertisment.

by **erazor** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:27 pm

Yes, thanks for the work but i like the old one better.
I find this one very hard to read and i guess a lot of players are going to miss some opponent armies when attacking! :shock:

by **Mickeylax311** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:28 pm

PLEASE fix the light circles. It had made it even harder to read the armies to where you almost need the color codes. PLEASE make it optional

by **bulletstopper** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:33 pm

sorry but dont much like it. make it harder to see clearly.

by **thegeneralpublic** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:34 pm

the_lion wrote:
thegeneralpublic wrote:
Hsur wrote:I think the circles are a little to bright. They should be almost invisible.

The problem with doing this is that if there are blue armies on Europe or something similar, it becomes very hard to read the numbers. Brighter circles, while some people may not find them as aesthetically pleasing, ensure that no mistakes are made because of legibility.

no they don't. white and green both blend into the white too much. I was accustomed to the way that it looked. Now I have to re-a-fucking-just.

Perhaps there is a happy medium to be found here?

by **stringybeany** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:35 pm

touched a nerve much? eleven pages in a couple hours?

by **Bano23** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:36 pm

Bad, bad, bad. Please change it back!

by **edbeard** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:36 pm

the only way you're going to get people to comment is if it's actually up on the site when people are playing it. I think that's pretty obvious.

A good solution (to me), is to let people choose from the old classic and the new classic. That should cover almost all the bases.

by **stringybeany** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:40 pm

It's just a mistake guys. Every change can't be a success. This one is doomed. Move on.

by **Rozebud** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:44 pm

IF THOSE BLINDING WHITE CIRCLES ARE SUCH A GREAT IDEA, THEN PLEASE GO AHEAD AND ADD THEM TOO ALL THE OTHER MAPS

by **wicked** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:44 pm

Well I'm sure if enough people voice their displeasure with this change in a constructive even-tempered manner, it'll be reconsidered.

by **producto** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:45 pm

PLEASE MAKE THIS OPTIONAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **ZeakCytho** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:48 pm

wicked wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I'm sorry that you failed to say your grievances with this touch-up before it was quenched, but that option was open to you for three months.

I for one did, and yet it didn't make a difference. You're never going to get the majority of the community in the map foundry to comment. The intense negative reaction last time should've been a huge clue lighter is not the preferred way to go.

Perhaps next time, put up an announcement with the proposed map on the My Games page BEFORE it's put into play. That way you'll reach the majority of the players here, not just a small minority in the foundry.

And you have every right to complain about the final product

. I myself voted for 55% opacity, but I don't mind the current version toomuch. What I was complaining about here was people who protest this new map but did not even bother to read the foundry threads on them. People who demand that the map be taken down and hurl insults at it left and right yet had never even looked at the thread while this was in development are being unreasonable. They would come across much better by mollifying their request in light of the fact that they took no part in the development process. Remember the story of the little red hen?

by **Sir. Ricco** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:49 pm

How about you guys play the map for a little while, before making the decision to hate it. :roll:

by **CaptainMoo** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:49 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:
wicked wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I'm sorry that you failed to say your grievances with this touch-up before it was quenched, but that option was open to you for three months.

I for one did, and yet it didn't make a difference. You're never going to get the majority of the community in the map foundry to comment. The intense negative reaction last time should've been a huge clue lighter is not the preferred way to go.

Perhaps next time, put up an announcement with the proposed map on the My Games page BEFORE it's put into play. That way you'll reach the majority of the players here, not just a small minority in the foundry.

And you have every right to complain about the final product . I myself voted for 55% opacity, but I don't mind the current version toomuch. What I was complaining about here was people who protest this new map but did not even bother to read the foundry threads on them. People who demand that the map be taken down and hurl insults at it left and right yet had never even looked at the thread while this was in development are being unreasonable. They would come across much better by mollifying their request in light of the fact that they took no part in the development process. Remember the story of the little red hen?

The only arguments for this map seem to be, well if you don't like it you should have posted in the foundry. EVEN A COLOR BLIND PERSON SAYS IT WORSE AND ITS TO HELP THEM???

I don't read the foundry like most people, I just play, its when the best map changes for teh worse we then comment.

Its kinda like the Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy when the Vogons say the plans have been in the universal library or w/e for 3 millenia and its earth fault they didnt object to the bypass

by **ytxty** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:50 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Are the majority of the issues aimed toward the army shadows?

--Andy

I think that is the issue. It is just a pain to try and figure out what armies are where...

by **Rozebud** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:54 pm

PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK!!!!

IF YOU ARE TRYING TO ENSURE READABILITY OF THE NUMBERS...THINK ABOUT MAKING ALL THE COUNTRIES PASTEL COLORS..IE LIGHT COLORS...AND THE ARMIES ALL DARKER COLORS....THOSE BLINDING WHITE CIRCLES REALLY ARE TERRIBLE....

by **timmytuttut88** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:58 pm

it sucks more then monica lewinsky

by **Ruben Cassar** on Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:01 pm

Honestly I don't see why the Classic map needs a touch up. However the Europe map which has the geography all wrong was not touched up because people did not want it to change. Instead a new version was being developed to be played alongside the old one. Why not try having two maps then; an old classic and a new classic so everyone will be happy? I think this is the best solution at this stage.