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Postby DAZMCFC on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:11 pm

Bastards. where is my option Twildo is a twat. you allowed the Stache to have Hendy is a cunt as an option, but i can't have Twildo is a twat. surely more people are offended by the word cunt than the word twat.


this stinks off hypocrisy.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:16 pm

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35702

She's a UCLA pre-med student...so obviously Guissy and co. are doing but raising alarmist, Norseist, and anti-libertaran rhetoric to prop up a decadent, authoritarian and repressive moderator regime.
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Postby suggs on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:17 pm

It is hypocrisy, but they say jump, and we say How High?... :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:18 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35702

She's a UCLA pre-med student...so obviously Guissy and co. are doing but raising alarmist, Norseist, and anti-libertaran rhetoric to prop up a decadent, authoritarian and repressive moderator regime.


Yeah, I'm not sure if you understand the point.
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Postby Neoteny on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:19 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35702

She's a UCLA pre-med student...so obviously Guissy and co. are doing but raising alarmist, Norseist, and anti-libertaran rhetoric to prop up a decadent, authoritarian and repressive moderator regime.


LMAO Down with education!
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:21 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35702

She's a UCLA pre-med student...so obviously Guissy and co. are doing but raising alarmist, Norseist, and anti-libertaran rhetoric to prop up a decadent, authoritarian and repressive moderator regime.


Yeah, I'm not sure if you understand the point.


Really fufu doggy?

Perhaps you could explain to me what that point is, other than an accusation that Norse is polluting the minde of little children?

Because unless you can, the fact that Norse chose to direct his comments at someone he would have known was a student would exonerate him from your ridiculous accusation of corrupting the kiddies.
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Postby got tonkaed on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:31 pm

even if it was a student, it would havent gotten him out of the woods as far as harrasment could have gone. And i find it possible he didnt check her profile, even if he had it wouldnt have made a huge difference.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:33 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:Really fufu doggy?

Hilarious. Throwing around "insults" is always the trait of a great debater.
Especially as I just pointed out that you were wrong.
Perhaps you could explain to me what that point is, other than an accusation that Norse is polluting the minde of little children?

Guiscard never said that he is. Get it throught your brain. It's about that he could've.
We don't know anything about her (as far as I know).

That can go both ways. She can either be a 60 year old dude furiously masturbating to Norse's chat, or a 12 year old girl just wanting to play a game on the internet.

Can you really not see the problem with sexually harrasing people on an innocent game site?
Because unless you can, the fact that Norse chose to direct his comments at someone he would have known was a student would exonerate him from your ridiculous accusation of corrupting the kiddies.


Did he actually know she was a student? And besides that, sexual harrasing grown ups doesn't make it right or something.
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Postby suggs on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:39 pm

So how exactly did Norse manage to grope her arse across the internet.
Quite seriously, i would love to know how :)
My point: it wasnt sexual harrassment.
Plus, he didnt get banned for that, so its COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
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Postby DaGip on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:40 pm

If Norse got banned for being racist, then what about some of these other majorly liberal (supposed to be funny) threads out there!

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40066

I mean, I find this particular subject offensive, but apparently the mods and Twill do not, because it falls in line with their liberal mentallity.

Only dif is that I responded once to this crappy thread and have chosen not to respond to it again. It was my choice to not be involved with this particular offensive discussion. But I realize that to liberal minded people, it can be seen as being funny.

Norse got hosed. That's just my opinion.
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Postby suggs on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:43 pm

A completely fair point. I , and many other Liberals, are advocating what many people would consider murder/infanticide.
And infanticide is simply the extreme of paedophilia.
So yep, its hypocrisy run riot, but what do you expect?
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Postby got tonkaed on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:50 pm

suggs wrote:A completely fair point. I , and many other Liberals, are advocating what many people would consider murder/infanticide.
And infanticide is simply the extreme of paedophilia.
So yep, its hypocrisy run riot, but what do you expect?
The guidelines clearly state: Pay your money and SHUT UP.


thats a rather marginal point at best.

tbh, by in large the only people who dont think racist threads are a bad idea, are people who have some predisposed notion that arguing about fundamental differences between races is ok.

Theres a much larger group of people who think choice arguments arent offensive.

suggs dont agree with napoleons poo poo no likes me cause im a conservative argument just because it identifies with the bring back norse argument.
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Postby Guiscard on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:51 pm

DaGip wrote:If Norse got banned for being racist, then what about some of these other majorly liberal (supposed to be funny) threads out there!

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40066

I mean, I find this particular subject offensive, but apparently the mods and Twill do not, because it falls in line with their liberal mentallity.

Only dif is that I responded once to this crappy thread and have chosen not to respond to it again. It was my choice to not be involved with this particular offensive discussion. But I realize that to liberal minded people, it can be seen as being funny.

Norse got hosed. That's just my opinion.


What was meant to be funny about the abortion thread? Seemed like a fairly sensible discussion to me. A few sick jokes does not a bad thread make, and they were generally ignored by the majority of those involved in the thread - especially those making significant debating posts. Those joking about had nothing to do with being 'liberal'. For example:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... on#1016058

Norse, of course, is a shining beacon of the right. He couldn't possibly make light of such an issue, could he?
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Postby suggs on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:54 pm

got tonkaed wrote:
suggs wrote:A completely fair point. I , and many other Liberals, are advocating what many people would consider murder/infanticide.
And infanticide is simply the extreme of paedophilia.
So yep, its hypocrisy run riot, but what do you expect?
The guidelines clearly state: Pay your money and SHUT UP.


thats a rather marginal point at best.

tbh, by in large the only people who dont think racist threads are a bad idea, are people who have some predisposed notion that arguing about fundamental differences between races is ok.

Theres a much larger group of people who think choice arguments arent offensive.

suggs dont agree with napoleons poo poo no likes me cause im a conservative argument just because it identifies with the bring back norse argument.


I see your point! but my point is:Why cant we argue about races?
It may be an old debate, perhaps not even very fertile anymore, but if people want to express their views, they should be allowed to.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:55 pm

Why did Norse got banned? Or, to be more precise, which idiot-group(s) of American society have been insulted by his posts? :roll:
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Postby suggs on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:57 pm

Blacks.
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Postby Guiscard on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:01 pm

suggs wrote:I see your point! but my point is:Why cant we argue about races?
It may be an old debate, perhaps not even very fertile anymore, but if people want to express their views, they should be allowed to.


They can express their views, Suggs. We've had some long and detailed discussions about race before now, all without people getting banned. If you imagine this as real life it helps. You could have a healthy and heated discussion about race and immigration in a pub where people of every race were drinking, but if you went as far as Norse did on some occasions one of those people would knock you the f*ck out. That's the general line I think is reasonable to draw when posting on an Internet forum, especially as part of a community where many people pay to be here.
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Postby Frigidus on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:01 pm

suggs wrote:Blacks.

And feminists.
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Postby Neoteny on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:02 pm

This is a messy, flabby thread.

From a rightist perspective, I can see how the abortion debate and a racial debate could be compared. One is arguing the humanity of a race, the other the humanity of a fetus. There are critical differences between the two, but I don't think they matter for the purpose of this discussion.

The way I see it, Norse was repeatedly warned about his behavior. Whether his ban was in response to sexual impropriety or ethnic insensitivity, he knew the consequences of his actions. I'm not sure I agree entirely with a permanent forum ban, but since he had been consistently warned of the abrasiveness of his behavior, I have no pity for him, and will not call for his return. The mods might be a bunch of hardcases (I wouldn't really know), but he had several chances, and he fucked them up. Regardless of how trivial his past offenses were, he knew there was a line, and he consistently crossed it. Sucks to be him.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:11 pm

Guiscard wrote:
suggs wrote:I see your point! but my point is:Why cant we argue about races?
It may be an old debate, perhaps not even very fertile anymore, but if people want to express their views, they should be allowed to.


They can express their views, Suggs. We've had some long and detailed discussions about race before now, all without people getting banned. If you imagine this as real life it helps. You could have a healthy and heated discussion about race and immigration in a pub where people of every race were drinking, but if you went as far as Norse did on some occasions one of those people would knock you the f*ck out. That's the general line I think is reasonable to draw when posting on an Internet forum, especially as part of a community where many people pay to be here.


They'd attack him with a fishing rod. :shock: :shock: :lol:
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:16 pm

suggs wrote:Blacks.


Surely you ment to say "black and liberal idiots" as opposed to "intelligent people of all races and genders who DON'T base their self-esteem on Norse's post". ](*,)

At this point, statisticaly speaking, homo sapiens can no longer be defined as "an inteligent life-form". :roll:
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Postby Minister Masket on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:40 pm

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Postby suggs on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:49 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
suggs wrote:Blacks.


Surely you ment to say "black and liberal idiots" as opposed to "intelligent people of all races and genders who DON'T base their self-esteem on Norse's post". ](*,)

At this point, statisticaly speaking, homo sapiens can no longer be defined as "an inteligent life-form". :roll:


I think the Taipeng rebellion/civil war in China put paid to that...
But yep, people are getting thicker...
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Postby suggs on Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:18 pm

need to keep this bumped for as long as possible.
I miss Norse.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:31 pm

Neoteny wrote:This is a messy, flabby thread.

From a rightist perspective, I can see how the abortion debate and a racial debate could be compared. One is arguing the humanity of a race, the other the humanity of a fetus. There are critical differences between the two, but I don't think they matter for the purpose of this discussion.

The way I see it, Norse was repeatedly warned about his behavior. Whether his ban was in response to sexual impropriety or ethnic insensitivity, he knew the consequences of his actions. I'm not sure I agree entirely with a permanent forum ban, but since he had been consistently warned of the abrasiveness of his behavior, I have no pity for him, and will not call for his return. The mods might be a bunch of hardcases (I wouldn't really know), but he had several chances, and he fucked them up. Regardless of how trivial his past offenses were, he knew there was a line, and he consistently crossed it. Sucks to be him.


Yeah, I don't really see why people think he deserves to get back. He was clearly out to get banned.
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