Conquer Club

WWII - Stalingrad



Current Version 38


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http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/_stalingrad_040710.xml

Neutrals Map20 neutral starts plus game drop neutrals

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Where snipers can Bombard

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Original Map.

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The basics are almost completed. Just got to find some names for territories.

What you need to know:
Map-Maker: cairnswk
Map Title: WWII: Stalingrad
Continents: 14, with only 12 having bonuses


Territories/Armies: as listed below in territory/armies format:

* Kuporosnoya - 3/3
* Hospital - 1/1
* Goemark - 5/7
* Panzer Divs - 9/10
* Gorodische - 6/8
* Orlovka - 5/4
* Rynok - 4/4
* Mameyev Hill - 1/2
* City - 15/14
* Chulkov - 3/5
* 62nd - 7/9
* 64th - 5/7
* River Ferries - 10/10
* Snipers - 4/4
* Luftwaffe - 6/6
Total - 86/99

Gameplay concept:

* Standard risk type gameplay with region type bonuses
* Each territory has one or two armies in it
* Planes can bombard terts makred with bomb icons.
* German or Russian HQ can conquer the Leftwaffe or Russian VVS if necessary
* Infantry can conquer snipers, armour, other infantry and artillery
* Armour can conquer armour and infantry
* Artillery can only bombard artillery and infantry

Background: The Battle of Stalingrad turned to the war for Hilter and the Russians. It was a fatal blow to Hitler, and a symbol of courage for the Red Army. Fought over more than 6 months, over 2 million Russian and Axis troops were killed.
Why? There has been call for the map from some quarters of CC players.

Enjoy!

Nice start cairns

Although i know from my Poland Map that the Swastika will have to go

cairns you're insane.

Hold up … the swastika is on the Das Schoß map. Why was it allowed there?

.44

the.killing.44 wrote:cairns you're insane.

Hold up … the swastika is on the Das Schoß map. Why was it allowed there?

.44

Oh I'm aware of the Swastika business....it'll change to something more politically appropriate, can't upset can we !?

For a second I was gonna be miffed at 44 for bumping that old map ideas thread about Stalingrad and cruelly getting my hopes up, and lo and behold I see a new thread with the beginnings of a map. I am a happy panda right this particular second.

samuelc812 wrote:Nice start cairns

Although i know from my Poland Map that the Swastika will have to go

thanks Samuel. Yes, i understand the Swastika.

Incandenza wrote:For a second I was gonna be miffed at 44 for bumping that old map ideas thread about Stalingrad and cruelly getting my hopes up, and lo and behold I see a new thread with the beginnings of a map. I am a happy panda right this particular second.

Very good. I thought i'd do something exciting for my (Uh um st) birthday today.

Well then, happy birthday, good sir! Many happy returns. NOW GET BACK TO WORK.

Incandenza wrote:Well then, happy birthday, good sir! Many happy returns. NOW GET BACK TO WORK.

I is, Iis'm. I'm working as fas' as i can, massa!

Modern waterloo!!!????

Wow, that is a lot of change from yesterday, nice start. And happy late birthday

LED ZEPPELINER wrote:Wow, that is a lot of change from yesterday, nice start. And happy late birthday

Thanks LED ZEPPELINER
Much of the basic map is ready. So let's start discussion, and there is a poll to vote in.

I have such a carto-boner right now it's unreal.

Incandenza wrote:I have such a carto-boner right now it's unreal.

True dat. (and no, I'm not talking bout Inc's )

.44

No sewer fighting?

Glad to see Pavlov's House and Mamayev Hill ... I think it needs to have more of a "snowier" look ...

I notice you have Yeremenko and Chuikov ... will Paulus be represented also?

Good start and way overdue on CC.

Fireside Poet wrote:No Mamayev Hill or sewer fighting?

Mameyev Hill is in there....Perhaps a suggestion...maybe it can be an extra bonus or something.

Fireside Poet wrote:...think it needs to have more of a "snowier" look ...

That may happen...keep watch. What do others think?
Version 1.

cairnswk wrote:

Fireside Poet wrote:No Mamayev Hill or sewer fighting?

Mameyev Hill is in there....Perhaps a suggestion...maybe it can be an extra bonus or something.

I edited my post after seeing it. I had on.

I keep having flashbacks of playing Squad Leader ... endless possibilities here with the street fighting, sewer fighting ...

Yeah that key point idea sounds decent ... where's the tractor factory? That'd be me of those, right?

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the.killing.44 wrote:Yeah that key point idea sounds decent ... where's the tractor factory? That'd be me of those, right?

.44

Dzerzhinsdky is the tractor factory.

Fireside Poet wrote:

the.killing.44 wrote:Yeah that key point idea sounds decent ... where's the tractor factory? That'd be me of those, right?

.44

Dzerzhinsdky is the tractor factory.

Gotcha ...

Anyway, I think there should be some small underground bonus that really epitomizes the street-fighting that was Stalingrad.

.44

the.killing.44 wrote:

Fireside Poet wrote:

the.killing.44 wrote:Yeah that key point idea sounds decent ... where's the tractor factory? That'd be me of those, right?

.44

Dzerzhinsdky is the tractor factory.

Gotcha ...

Anyway, I think there should be some small underground bonus that really epitomizes the street-fighting that was Stalingrad.

.44

Can someone expand on what you want here regards that gameplay re street/underground fighting, so i can think graphically on this one.

cairnswk wrote:Can someone expand on what you want here regards that gameplay re street/underground fighting, so i can think graphically on this one.

Give me like 20 minutes to get back on the computer and I'll really post something …

.44

the.killing.44 wrote:

cairnswk wrote:Can someone expand on what you want here regards that gameplay re street/underground fighting, so i can think graphically on this one.

Give me like 20 minutes to get back on the computer and I'll really post something …

.44

OK. in the meantime, playing with some colours and things.
Version 2.

What I'm thinking is something like what you did with the black and white lines. You either take those off or reduce the opacity of those so much they're essentially moot, then add another line (maybe Soviet red) along some territories in the city. Then you could have the Soviet "underground" with the Soviet red-shaded territories, running along the Volga. Since it's the "Underground" you'd be hijacking, sabotaging, etc. and as such the neutrals (correct?) would vary, so the Tractor Plant would be more than some tert, and the bonuses would probably be the same as the rest of the map (i.e. +1 per tert).

Meh, it might be too much (and you'll probably have to downscale what I outlined, tert number-wise), but I think it's better for the "Stalingradness" of the map.

And I agree with FP on more snow

.44

RE: fastpost/v2 - how does white text with a black glow look?

Honestly graphics are already pretty great.