Gay Marriage

sailorseal · Post by **sailorseal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:23 pm

How terrible is it that Gays cannot marry? Depriving them of their basic rights!
We should be ashamed

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:27 pm

^GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

I heard New York might be pursuing some legislation to the above effect. Good on them. I like the current trend.

PLAYER57832 · Post by **PLAYER57832** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:43 pm

sailorseal wrote:How terrible is it that Gays cannot marry? Depriving them of their basic rights!
We should be ashamed

Read through this thread (all 91 pages)

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=38572&hilit=gay+marriage

You will likely find every possible answer (and multitude of responses).
Good times, that!

sailorseal · Post by **sailorseal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:45 pm

Neoteny wrote:^GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

I heard New York might be pursuing some legislation to the above effect. Good on them. I like the current trend.

I live in NY and the world is a buzz with this so that insipred this ^

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:45 pm

Neoteny wrote:^GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

I heard New York might be pursuing some legislation to the above effect. Good on them. I like the current trend.

You're clearly not familiar with New York politics.

David Paterson is so unpopular, it's probably a bad thing for gays that he wants to legalize gay marriage.

sailorseal · Post by **sailorseal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:47 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
Neoteny wrote:^GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

I heard New York might be pursuing some legislation to the above effect. Good on them. I like the current trend.

You're clearly not familiar with New York politics.

David Paterson is so unpopular, it's probably a bad thing for gays that he wants to legalize gay marriage.

What! You are unfamiliar! He is very popular!

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:49 pm

Why do I get the feeling you're being sarcastic?

sailorseal · Post by **sailorseal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:58 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Why do I get the feeling you're being sarcastic?

I am not being sarcastic, this is our first legally blind black governor and he is much better then Spitzer

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:00 pm

You may like him (I actually kinda like him too), but the rest of the state doesn't.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:04 pm

It's the first I've noticed him recently, and I approve so far.

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:10 pm

http://gothamist.com/2009/03/23/paterso ... pens_p.php

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:12 pm

I've decided that New Yorkers are just angry people who will never be pleased anyhow.

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:13 pm

An interesting blog about Paterson: http://ballotbox.governing.com/2009/03/ ... oblem.html

SultanOfSurreal · Post by **SultanOfSurreal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:23 pm

I'll just leave this here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2s2R5qKhbo

sailorseal · Post by **sailorseal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:34 pm

That's a good video and New Yorkers are COOL!

Also is there any homophobes here? Speak now

gannable · Post by **gannable** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:43 pm

oh i know its so grand

any conquer club fellas want to marry me?

captain.crazy · Post by **captain.crazy** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:50 pm

sailorseal wrote:How terrible is it that Gays cannot marry? Depriving them of their basic rights!
We should be ashamed

This is so low on the totem pole of American problems right now... :roll:

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:53 pm

gannable wrote:oh i know its so grand

any conquer club fellas want to marry me?

Can you cook?

john9blue · Post by **john9blue** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:53 pm

captain.crazy wrote:This is so low on the totem pole of American problems right now...

Well, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything. As trivial as you might find it, the solution is relatively simple compared to some of the other problems we have. :shock:

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:01 pm

Neoteny wrote:^GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

I heard New York might be pursuing some legislation to the above effect. Good on them. I like the current trend.

Because our Gov. is a complete idiot. (Well, that's the popular opinion around here anyways) :twisted:

captain.crazy · Post by **captain.crazy** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:03 pm

john9blue wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:This is so low on the totem pole of American problems right now...

Well, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything. As trivial as you might find it, the solution is relatively simple compared to some of the other problems we have.

no... you're wrong. Whether same sex marriages can occur or not is not a big issue. In fact, it is a states issue, not a federal one. So if you live in Cali, it has already been dealt with there. That is all.

SultanOfSurreal · Post by **SultanOfSurreal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:08 pm

captain.crazy wrote:
john9blue wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:This is so low on the totem pole of American problems right now...

Well, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything. As trivial as you might find it, the solution is relatively simple compared to some of the other problems we have.

no... you're wrong. Whether same sex marriages can occur or not is not a big issue. In fact, it is a states issue, not a federal one. So if you live in Cali, it has already been dealt with there. That is all.

actually it is a federal issue, unless the states possess magical amulets that protect them from the 14th amendment

captain.crazy · Post by **captain.crazy** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:12 pm

SultanOfSurreal wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
john9blue wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:This is so low on the totem pole of American problems right now...

Well, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything. As trivial as you might find it, the solution is relatively simple compared to some of the other problems we have.

no... you're wrong. Whether same sex marriages can occur or not is not a big issue. In fact, it is a states issue, not a federal one. So if you live in Cali, it has already been dealt with there. That is all.

actually it is a federal issue, unless the states possess magical amulets that protect them from the 14th amendment

I don't interpret it that way. Your not guaranteed the right to marriage by anyone. States have the authority to grant marriage license as they see fit. Your civil liberties are the rights afforded to you by the Constitution... nothing more.

SultanOfSurreal · Post by **SultanOfSurreal** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:24 pm

captain.crazy wrote:
SultanOfSurreal wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
john9blue wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:This is so low on the totem pole of American problems right now...

Well, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything. As trivial as you might find it, the solution is relatively simple compared to some of the other problems we have.

no... you're wrong. Whether same sex marriages can occur or not is not a big issue. In fact, it is a states issue, not a federal one. So if you live in Cali, it has already been dealt with there. That is all.

actually it is a federal issue, unless the states possess magical amulets that protect them from the 14th amendment

I don't interpret it that way. Your not guaranteed the right to marriage by anyone. States have the authority to grant marriage license as they see fit. Your civil liberties are the rights afforded to you by the Constitution... nothing more.

Umm one of the rights afforded to you by the constitution is a guarantee of equal protection under the law, which includes contract law.

So while states do oversee a lot of contract law, if they ever use those laws in a discriminatory way (for example denying black people the right to buy a house, or... I dunno... denying gay people the right to marry), that's a violation of the equal protection clause, which is federal. In fact this was the basis of Iowa's decision on the matter the other week. It's the same way states have their own obscenity laws, but are still subject to the first amendment, and so forth.

captain.crazy · Post by **captain.crazy** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:35 pm

SultanOfSurreal wrote:Umm one of the rights afforded to you by the constitution is a guarantee of equal protection under the law, which includes contract law.

So while states do oversee a lot of contract law, if they ever use those laws in a discriminatory way (for example denying black people the right to buy a house, or... I dunno... denying gay people the right to marry), that's a violation of the equal protection clause, which is federal. In fact this was the basis of Iowa's decision on the matter the other week. It's the same way states have their own obscenity laws, but are still subject to the first amendment, and so forth.

Gays have the right to marry... they just have to marry the opposite sex. :lol:

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