Conquer Club

FOXNEWS 3,390,000
MSNBC 1,210,000
CNN 1,070,000
CNN HEADLINE 909,000

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,980,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,239,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,947,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,740,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,401,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 2,185,000
COMEDY DAILY SHOW 1,777,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,499,000
COMEDY COLBERT 1,446,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,336,000
CNN KING 1,292,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,149,000
CNN COOPER 1,021,000

Numbers from drudgereport.com

Funny, here I was thinking they were comedians. I guess satire and commentary are the same thing now.

They take it a step further than just comedy.

They state that they are comedy as a defense, and they largely get away with it because of the network they are on, but in reality they are political pundits.

Interesting.

You forgot to add the crucial line up top

FOX RATINGS SURGE ON PROTEST COVERAGE
8-11 PM ET

These are the ratings only from last night.

Uhm...what's the point of this?

Just stalkers for the O'Riley gang trying to get ahead of their losing to MSNBC.

Snorri1234 wrote:Uhm...what's the point of this?

Bill O'Reilly likes to claim his ratings are better than Keith Olbermann's, which is generally not true.

I need my ESPN News.


--Andy

InkL0sed wrote:

Snorri1234 wrote:Uhm...what's the point of this?

Bill O'Reilly likes to claim his ratings are better than Keith Olbermann's, which is generally not true.

Hehe, no it isn't.

Frankly, their both assholes, but O'Reilly consistantly has higher ratings, along with most political pundits on Fox.

There's an obvious reason that this is the case too..Liberal pundits have much more competition
It's an issue of supply and demand, and liberal voices in the media are a dime a dozen!

Sure, if your definition of liberal is "Not a radical libertarian" then there are indeed a huge amount of liberal voices compared to others.

Snorri1234 wrote:Sure, if your definition of liberal is "Not a radical libertarian" then there are indeed a huge amount of liberal voices compared to others.

Neo McCarthyist tactics of the left:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... -president

Snorri1234 wrote:Sure, if your definition of liberal is "Not a radical libertarian" then there are indeed a huge amount of liberal voices compared to others.

As a Libertarian (radical, I'm not sure), I can tell you there are NO high profile news people, pundits, commentators or journalists who share all of my views. From a purely economic perspective, I can get on board with someone like Rush Limbaugh. However, when it comes to social issues, I get on board with Janine Garafolo.

But, to your point, it is indeed all relative.

I don't even know what to call this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNp9GSbFQhQ

I'll have to comment on it later, I don't have sound here.

InkL0sed wrote:I don't even know what to call this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNp9GSbFQhQ

What's the difference between this and the things that Olbermann/Garafolo said? What's the difference between this and Anderson Cooper's consistent jokes about teabagging?

See, the different here is this - I will readily admit (and readily accuse) that Glenn Beck is conservative and completely inappropriate many times. I'll also admit Glenn Beck is ridiculous in many of his assertions and how he gets his point across.

However, you (and others) refuse to admit that Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Madow, John Stewart, and Stephen Colbert do anything wrong. At least, that's my problem with you and snorri and player (who I really, really want to refer to as just playah). I admit that there's media bias on both sides. You have not acknowledged, to my knowledge, that any media bias exists on one side.

For the record, a friend of mine nicknamed Anderson Cooper "Cobalt Steele," because he's badass. I've taken it up recently, so if anyone sees me refer to "Steele," that's who I'm talking about.

Neoteny wrote:For the record, a friend of mine nicknamed Anderson Cooper "Cobalt Steele," because he's badass. I've taken it up recently, so if anyone sees me refer to "Steele," that's who I'm talking about.

For the record, in middle school we had Channel One (a news station for young people). One of the anchors was... Anderson Cooper (a/k/a Cobalt Steele). Among other things, he went to Bosnia during the war... for Channel One. The dude is a machine.

thegreekdog wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:I don't even know what to call this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNp9GSbFQhQ

What's the difference between this and the things that Olbermann/Garafolo said? What's the difference between this and Anderson Cooper's consistent jokes about teabagging?

See, the different here is this - I will readily admit (and readily accuse) that Glenn Beck is conservative and completely inappropriate many times. I'll also admit Glenn Beck is ridiculous in many of his assertions and how he gets his point across.

However, you (and others) refuse to admit that Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Madow, John Stewart, and Stephen Colbert do anything wrong. At least, that's my problem with you and snorri and player (who I really, really want to refer to as just playah). I admit that there's media bias on both sides. You have not acknowledged, to my knowledge, that any media bias exists on one side.

First of all, last night was the first time I cringed while watching Olbermann. I think that while there's probably an element of truth to what Garofalo said, she definitely went too far.

While I don't think liberal media pundits can do no wrong, the worst I've seen them do is be offensive. What Glenn Beck does in these videos is far worse - he actually incites people into violence. There is a huge difference.

thegreekdog wrote:

Neoteny wrote:For the record, a friend of mine nicknamed Anderson Cooper "Cobalt Steele," because he's badass. I've taken it up recently, so if anyone sees me refer to "Steele," that's who I'm talking about.

For the record, in middle school we had Channel One (a news station for young people). One of the anchors was... Anderson Cooper (a/k/a Cobalt Steele). Among other things, he went to Bosnia during the war... for Channel One. The dude is a machine.

He really is. Now that you bring it up, I may have seen that broadcast before... I don't remember seeing Cobalt Steele on it, but I remember something similar. It may have just been a competing broadcast, but it was a similar concept.

InkL0sed wrote:First of all, last night was the first time I cringed while watching Olbermann. I think that while there's probably an element of truth to what Garofalo said, she definitely went too far.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of liberal media being biased, but I'll take what I can get. You should definitely watch some of Olbermann's critiques of President Bush. The term "fascist" has been used many times. I'll try to get some links for you.

InkL0sed wrote:While I don't think liberal media pundits can do no wrong, the worst I've seen them do is be offensive. What Glenn Beck does in these videos is far worse - he actually incites people into violence. There is a huge difference.

Hmm... I watched both of those videos. I was not incited into doing violence. On the contrary, I thought his comments were ridiculous. Of course, if a redneck rascist vetern was watching this, he'd probably go right out and join a militia group to try to kill some Mexican illegal immigrants.

InkL0sed wrote:While I don't think liberal media pundits can do no wrong, the worst I've seen them do is be offensive. What Glenn Beck does in these videos is far worse - he actually incites people into violence. There is a huge difference.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

Maybe Olbermann should stop lampooning people for exercising their political right of free speech. The Bush protesters were flower children, the Obama protesters are a bit more..substantive

thegreekdog wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:First of all, last night was the first time I cringed while watching Olbermann. I think that while there's probably an element of truth to what Garofalo said, she definitely went too far.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of liberal media being biased, but I'll take what I can get. You should definitely watch some of Olbermann's critiques of President Bush. The term "fascist" has been used many times. I'll try to get some links for you.

I have seen them, and I mostly agreed with him. Criticism is not the same as bias.

And you seem to have conveniently missed Olbermann's criticisms of Obama lately.

InkL0sed wrote:While I don't think liberal media pundits can do no wrong, the worst I've seen them do is be offensive. What Glenn Beck does in these videos is far worse - he actually incites people into violence. There is a huge difference.

Hmm... I watched both of those videos. I was not incited into doing violence. On the contrary, I thought his comments were ridiculous. Of course, if a redneck rascist vetern was watching this, he'd probably go right out and join a militia group to try to kill some Mexican illegal immigrants.

That's because you know better. Many people don't, and it's scary to think what they might do with Beck's encouragement.

For example...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV3pwd4f ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJtU4dKS_pY

Sorry Inklosed, but what is the difference, to you, between this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0 ... re=related

and Glenn Beck?

Other than the language used (Mr. Olbermann is the most well-spoken person I've ever heard), there is no difference really. The real difference, for you, is that you hate President Bush and you like President Obama. To me, when someone listens to what another says, simply because they like what he has to say, that proves to me that there is a bias. To me, when one has to "agree" or "disagree" with the news, it's no longer news.

Anyway, I'd be interested to know your take on Mr. Olbermann's comparison of Bush's policies to locking up the Japanese-Americans during World War Two, and how that compares to what Glenn Beck has said and done.

Political Rule #1: Everybody has a freaking agenda.

Form your own opinions. Why would you watch this stuff if not to laugh at it?

thegreekdog wrote: The real difference, for you, is that you hate President Bush and you like President Obama.

I was writing a response to your post, sir, but forget it. I am fucking tired of comments like this. I refuse to answer a question to which you have already formed an answer.