Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:28 pm
Who do you think was the greatest military mind of all time?
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Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:23 pm
I remember the last thread about this, with that dude dinobot trolling it horrifically
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:25 pm
you've got a bit of oxymoron on your shirt there
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:27 pm
Alexander the great? that seems to obvious. I'm going to have to say, me 
just because I have a giant ego. 
just because I have a giant ego. Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:28 pm
InkL0sed wrote:I remember the last thread about this, with that dude dinobot trolling it horrifically
Do you mean me?
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:39 pm
Timminz wrote:InkL0sed wrote:I remember the last thread about this, with that dude dinobot trolling it horrifically
Do you mean me?
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Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:47 pm
captainwalrus wrote:Alexander the great? that seems to obvious. I'm going to have to say, me
It also seems rather obvious that you are a half-wit.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:35 pm
Ok let me rephrase the overall question. Who was the greatest military mind ever but also had thier kingdom last after thier death?
Also alexander the great was a great strategist and tactician but he drove his men to death often outrunning his supply trains. The only reason he wasn't killed by his men was thier unyielding loyalty to him.
Also alexander the great was a great strategist and tactician but he drove his men to death often outrunning his supply trains. The only reason he wasn't killed by his men was thier unyielding loyalty to him.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:38 pm
Why ask the question if you are just going to disqualify the answer?
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:11 am
Napoleon?
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:15 am
Hitler is undercredited. His entire buildup of highways seen as economic development seconded as military highways for fast rapid movements of troops throughout the country to different fronts. He is potentially the most influential figure at causing the entire world to exit the worldwide depressions as well. If you haven't studied him more in depth he typically just sounds like some crazy person that had a lust for power and hatred for Jews (which is true, don't get me wrong).
So many of his moves are brilliantly planned out... I don't know if he can beat some of the old great ones though.
So many of his moves are brilliantly planned out... I don't know if he can beat some of the old great ones though.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:25 am
No absolute opinion but Hannibal deserves a mention.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:10 am
jonesthecurl wrote:No absolute opinion but Hannibal deserves a mention.
Then I believe Scipio Africanus would be at least one spot in front of him, after defeating Hannibal in the Battle of Zama. Another mention would be Phillip II of Macedon, Alexander's father.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:26 am
jonesthecurl wrote:No absolute opinion but Hannibal deserves a mention.
A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:33 am
I doubt there's a single greatest strategist, all leaders have good and bad days. Just like everyone else. And some strategists might not even be leaders...
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:03 am
InkL0sed wrote:Timminz wrote:InkL0sed wrote:I remember the last thread about this, with that dude dinobot trolling it horrifically
Do you mean me?
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=34564
So many people that aren't around anymore
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:37 am
I'd put Sherman pretty high on the list. I find his methods and cause questionable, but the March to the Sea was well done on the tactical, strategic, and logistic levels. Of course, it would have been impossible to do in a less fertile country or without the incredible productive and transportation capacity of the North, but that doesn't denigrate the achievement.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:24 am
Patton. Plus he had the best movie made about him.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:38 am
InkL0sed wrote:Timminz wrote:InkL0sed wrote:I remember the last thread about this, with that dude dinobot trolling it horrifically
Do you mean me?
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=34564
I just went to scan that thread, and was confused when I couldn't see myself, or anyone named "Dinobot". Then I stopped scrolling so quickly, and saw "This post was made by Dinobot....foe...etc"
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:35 am
I feel like I could make a decent case for Mao as one of the shapers of irregular warfare, actually. Pretty awful person, but then, few of the greats were particularly decent.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:30 pm
naxus wrote:Also alexander the great was a great strategist and tactician but he drove his men to death often outrunning his supply trains. The only reason he wasn't killed by his men was thier unyielding loyalty to him.
I didn't know Alexander lived in the 19th century... damn shitty American education...
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:26 pm
hecter wrote:Napoleon?
Well done reading the question.
He probably lost more battles than he won, and he invaded Russia in winter.
1st lesson you learn in military school: You don't invade Russia, let alone in winter, because you will lose 90% of your soldiers.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:38 pm
So some answers are Hitler, Napolean, Hannibal, Scipio Africanus, Phillip II of Macedon, Sherman, Patton, and Mao.
But most of these people were either great strategist and hated by the people or lucky and loved by the people
With Hannibal though he did win many victories over the romans, he was defeated by Scipio Africanus.Also after his defeat Hannibal tried to put in some new economic changes to help pay the tribute that Rome demanded and eventually went into voluntary exile.
Napolean was a great military mind but was defeated by Wellington at Waterloo which started him towards his death.Plus he introduced conscription which caused many of the french people to hate him after he lost.
Hitler was brilliant but also made some very simple mistakes such as attacking Russia and fighting on two fronts.
But most of these people were either great strategist and hated by the people or lucky and loved by the people
With Hannibal though he did win many victories over the romans, he was defeated by Scipio Africanus.Also after his defeat Hannibal tried to put in some new economic changes to help pay the tribute that Rome demanded and eventually went into voluntary exile.
Napolean was a great military mind but was defeated by Wellington at Waterloo which started him towards his death.Plus he introduced conscription which caused many of the french people to hate him after he lost.
Hitler was brilliant but also made some very simple mistakes such as attacking Russia and fighting on two fronts.
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:44 pm
Having looked at what we've got so far, I'd say you have to at least put Caesar in the running. Plus he never ran into the eventual wall like some of the others mentioned (assassination aside).
Re: Greatest military mind ever?
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:14 am
Genghis Khan.
Don't mess.
Don't mess.