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It was the perfect metaphor for the McCain-Palin campaign.

As Sarah Palin tried to do a good thing -- pardon a turkey -- A turkey farmer went all Marie Antoinette on a bird in the background.


Mildly disturbing? You Betcha!

Ya, I guess we should nix the Thanks Giving turkey on a account of how disturbing this is.

How do we know that she was pardoning a turkey in this video? A caption on a biased website is hardly reliable when there's nothing in the video to indicate that that's what was happening.

She was on the Turkey farm looking for McCain when he went missing.

Backglass, you do realize that your side won the election, right? The campaign is over.

GabonX wrote:Ya, I guess we should nix the Thanks Giving turkey on a account of how disturbing this is.

Now, don't be silly. What you SHOULD do at Thanksgiving is GIVE THANKS to the fact that she is nowhere near Washington!

GabonX wrote: How do we know that she was pardoning a turkey in this video? A caption on a biased website is hardly reliable when there's nothing in the video to indicate that that's what was happening.

Fair enough. Here are 551 other sources for you to pick from.

But they are all probably biased...right?

luns101 wrote:Backglass, you do realize that your side won the election, right? The campaign is over.

I have no side. The American People are the winners!

It just baffles me that she doesn't have anyone around her smart enough to say "Hey...maybe this isn't a good idea". More likely, she does...and simply ignores them.

Backglass wrote:It just baffles me that she doesn't have anyone around her smart enough to say "Hey...maybe this isn't a good idea". More likely, she does...and simply ignores them.

She said at the end of the video that people would probably criticize her for it. Half of the country will have one view of this and the other won't see it as such a bad thing.

GabonX wrote:Half of the country will have one view of this and the other won't see it as such a bad thing.

You are correct of course. I am sure there are plenty of people watching it saying YOU GO SARAH!! CHOP THEM TURKEYS HEADS OFF YOURSELF!! YEE HAAAAAAAWWW!!!!

Thankfully, those people will no longer be in power soon.

What is wrong with that exactly?

Backglass wrote:

GabonX wrote:Half of the country will have one view of this and the other won't see it as such a bad thing.

You are correct of course. I am sure there are plenty of people watching it saying YOU GO SARAH!! CHOP THEM TURKEYS HEADS OFF YOURSELF!! YEE HAAAAAAAWWW!!!!

Thankfully, those people will no longer be in power soon.

The power sways back and forth in this country. You had better hope Obama does a good job because if not their will be a conservative backlash to Obama in 2012 as bad as the liberal backlash to Bush in 2008, and her name is Sarah Palin...

The point was the moronic irony that Palin is at a turkey farm trying to look presidential (since it is a fifty+ year tradition that the sitting US President pardons a turkey on Thanksgiving) by pardoning a turkey only to have a turkey getting its head ground off in the background.

luns101 wrote:Backglass, you do realize that your side won the election, right? The campaign is over.

It's not even a partisan thing here, we're basically just talking about somebody who furiously refuses to get that she's a national embarrassment. She's like any number of tired celebs who don't get that the only reason people really wants them around isto laugh at her.

Also, while I knew what this thread meant, I was kind of curious to see how the Turks had given Palin something to pardon them for. Is Sarah Palin Kurdish?

Curmudgeonx wrote:The point was the moronic irony that Palin is at a turkey farm trying to look presidential (since it is a fifty+ year tradition that the sitting US President pardons a turkey on Thanksgiving) by pardoning a turkey only to have a turkey getting its head ground off in the background.

Thank You.

GabonX wrote:You had better hope Obama does a good job because if not their will be a conservative backlash to Obama in 2012 as bad as the liberal backlash to Bush in 2008

On this we agree...except it wasn't a "liberal backlash"...but an "American People" backlash.

As for Obama, my glass is half full on the subject.

GabonX wrote:and her name is Sarah Palin...

Her chances are now nil with just about everyone, except for the evangelical bible thumpers. The more she speaks, the more normal Americans see her for the nut job she is.

But hey! Keep the dream alive!

spurgistan wrote:Also, while I knew what this thread meant, I was kind of curious to see how the Turks had given Palin something to pardon them for. Is Sarah Palin Kurdish?

"You mean Turkey is also a COUNTRY? Who knew!" - Sarah Palin

Backglass wrote:I have no side.

Sure, sure you don't...and people can buy beachfront property in Idaho too

Backglass wrote:

GabonX wrote:and her name is Sarah Palin...

Her chances are now nil with just about everyone, except for the evangelical bible thumpers. The more she speaks, the more normal Americans see her for the nut job she is.

But hey! Keep the dream alive!

Well I certainly don't fall in the bible thumper category, and to discount the weight that they pull in the national election shows a fundamental lack of understanding regarding American politics. The religious right, aside from instances like this election where their vote was split between two candidates, essentially chooses the Republican candidate.

Due to her support in the Republican base, much stronger than McCain's ever has been, she has a strong chance of getting the nomination in four years. If Obama doesn't perform, and keep in mind that he has a number of huge problems to deal with, there is a very real chance that Palin will win. It's two far off to say that this is a likely occurrence, but the flipside of that is that public perception of her could change over the course of four years. She has the highest approval rating of any Governer in the country and I fully expect people to apply more scrutiny to the biased media forces which were in full throttle attempting to discredit her by means of slander.

What specific issues do you have with her that do not apply to other Republicans?

haha wat a losa.

Backglass wrote:

GabonX wrote:Half of the country will have one view of this and the other won't see it as such a bad thing.

You are correct of course. I am sure there are plenty of people watching it saying YOU GO SARAH!! CHOP THEM TURKEYS HEADS OFF YOURSELF!! YEE HAAAAAAAWWW!!!!

Thankfully, those people will no longer be in power soon.

I am 100% certain that there are many Democratic/Communists that eat turkey, not just Sarah Palin and the Republican/NeoCons. Basically, if you eat meat, you are just as guilty of killing the animal as the butcher. I assume that BG is a vegan and therefore is qualified to pass judgment on all the carnivorous rednecks that scream YEE HAAAAAAW when they chop turkey heads off so that the more sophisticated carnivores in society don't have to bloody their hands for a Thanksgiving dinner?

GabonX wrote:
What specific issues do you have with her that do not apply to other Republicans?

#1. She believes the Earth is less than 10,000 years old ... something completely DISPROVEN by science. (It is certainly possible that evolution is wrong, but not that it is only 10,000 years old)

#2. She knows almost nothing about international politics.

#3. She is dumb enough to pose for a "pardon the turkey" shot without even making sure that there won't be a turkey killed in the background.

Mr. Ronald Reagan would be EXTREMELY disappointed! ... and so would Mr Swartznegger, to boot!

I'd say there are plenty of better candidates out there.

Backglass wrote: I am sure there are plenty of people watching it saying YOU GO SARAH!! CHOP THEM TURKEYS HEADS OFF YOURSELF!! YEE HAAAAAAAWWW!!!!

Thankfully, those people will no longer be in power soon.

Seems you rather missed the point? ...

And ... I do believe Obama eats turkey!

PLAYER57832 wrote:

GabonX wrote:
What specific issues do you have with her that do not apply to other Republicans?

#1. She believes the Earth is less than 10,000 years old ... something completely DISPROVEN by science. (It is certainly possible that evolution is wrong, but not that it is only 10,000 years old)

#2. She knows almost nothing about international politics.

#3. She is dumb enough to pose for a "pardon the turkey" shot without even making sure that there won't be a turkey killed in the background.

Mr. Ronald Reagan would be EXTREMELY disappointed! ... and so would Mr Swartznegger, to boot!

I'd say there are plenty of better candidates out there.

I agree with your points except with #3. I found the interview entertaining, that's what politics is all about nowadays, isn't it? Entertaining?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6UE0o85rjk

GabonX wrote:

Backglass wrote:

GabonX wrote:Half of the country will have one view of this and the other won't see it as such a bad thing.

You are correct of course. I am sure there are plenty of people watching it saying YOU GO SARAH!! CHOP THEM TURKEYS HEADS OFF YOURSELF!! YEE HAAAAAAAWWW!!!!

Thankfully, those people will no longer be in power soon.

The power sways back and forth in this country. You had better hope Obama does a good job because if not their will be a conservative backlash to Obama in 2012 as bad as the liberal backlash to Bush in 2008, and her name is Sarah Palin...

Unless he screws up royally (and I do mean royally) I don't think the backlash would ever be as bad as Bush's. Also If its within my power, I would never allow Palin to become president.

Yes, she would make the worst previous president Palin to insignificance.

GabonX wrote:If Obama doesn't perform, and keep in mind that he has a number of huge problems to deal with, there is a very real chance that Palin will win.

And when he tackles those problems, there is a very real chance that Palin won't have a chance.

GabonX wrote:She has the highest approval rating of any Governer in the country

Source please.

GabonX wrote:and I fully expect people to apply more scrutiny to the biased media forces which were in full throttle attempting to discredit her by means of slander.

Huh? She needed no help..she did fine all by herself. Did you not see ANY of her interviews and bizzarre answers? Or the DEBATE? Don't tell me you are one of those those still claim "She Won!" after THAT abortion.

GabonX wrote:What specific issues do you have with her that do not apply to other Republicans?

Among many other things, it appears that she either doesn't think before she speaks, or doesn't know WHAT she thinks. Over & over again when asked a question, she would ramble on without substance. Oh, she can rally a crowd with rhetoric and snippy jokes...she's a winner in that catagory. But when asked specific questions during an interview, she falls on her face. I think she is full of shit, personally. McCain I could have lived with had he won. Her? No way.

DaGip wrote:I am 100% certain that there are many Democratic/Communists that eat turkey, not just Sarah Palin and the Republican/NeoCons. Basically, if you eat meat, you are just as guilty of killing the animal as the butcher. I assume that BG is a vegan and therefore is qualified to pass judgment on all the carnivorous rednecks that scream YEE HAAAAAAW when they chop turkey heads off so that the more sophisticated carnivores in society don't have to bloody their hands for a Thanksgiving dinner?

LOL. Nope...I loves me some Turkey! I am not surprised you missed the entire point however.

Backglass wrote:

GabonX wrote:She has the highest approval rating of any Governer in the country

Source please.

Upon her election she had a 93.8% approval rating by Dittman Research

Despite months of intentional negative press, she still maintains a 68% approval rating according to Ivan Moore Research

As of September/October 2008, Rasmussen Reports ranked all 50 governors approval ratings and broke them down into the following categories: Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor

Only Bobby Jindal of Louisiana outperforms her in the Excellent rating with 50% compared to Palin's 46%.

Rasmussen Reports rankings of 50 state governors approval ratings

Quinnipiac shows Charlie Crist tied with her at 68%

...all polls conducted by people within their respective states, not ones skewed by people living outside those states as CNN, NBC, and USA TODAY like to do.

Gobble Gobble

DaGip wrote:
I agree with your points except with #3. I found the interview entertaining, that's what politics is all about nowadays, isn't it? Entertaining?

Yup.

luns101 wrote:

Backglass wrote:

GabonX wrote:She has the highest approval rating of any Governer in the country

Source please.

Upon her election she had a 93.8% approval rating by Dittman Research

Despite months of intentional negative press, she still maintains a 68% approval rating according to Ivan Moore Research

As of September/October 2008, Rasmussen Reports ranked all 50 governors approval ratings and broke them down into the following categories: Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor

Only Bobby Jindal of Louisiana outperforms her in the Excellent rating with 50% compared to Palin's 46%.

Rasmussen Reports rankings of 50 state governors approval ratings

Quinnipiac shows Charlie Crist tied with her at 68%

...all polls conducted by people within their respective states, not ones skewed by people living outside those states as CNN, NBC, and USA TODAY like to do.

Gobble Gobble

Then again she is governor of alaska.