Balancing this is sadly a nightmare and I will need like 15 players before I can add the second mafia member. This may sound strange BUT I have various reasons for this. Firstly, I am expecting town to do very poorly here given recent games. Secondly, town typically underperforms in this setup. Thirdly, the EV guideline (closest to 50% odds town will win if random lynching) is 4 townies to the first mafia, 19 townies to the second. 13 town and 2 mafia gives town an EV of about 43% which is good enough for me. Town is likely to lose, which means you guys will feel even better if you do manage to win.
In. Why do you forbid claiming roles when there will be no roles? If there are no roles as per rules, then one claiming a power role is obviously lying. That should not be forbidden per se.
dakky21 wrote:In. Why do you forbid claiming roles when there will be no roles? If there are no roles as per rules, then one claiming a power role is obviously lying. That should not be forbidden per se.
Cause it's pointless and I just want to prevent people trying to puzzle out some pattern in role pms or shit like that. "was vanilla spelled with lower case v in your pm?" No. Not gonna happen.
dakky21 wrote:In. Why do you forbid claiming roles when there will be no roles? If there are no roles as per rules, then one claiming a power role is obviously lying. That should not be forbidden per se.
Cause it's pointless and I just want to prevent people trying to puzzle out some pattern in role pms or shit like that. "was vanilla spelled with lower case v in your pm?" No. Not gonna happen.
I'll add my reply on the discord server as well:
aage on discord wrote:I get why you asked but I just want to avoid the game getting derailed into pointless discussions. I think people (especially the DBD players) need to stop saying "shrug this is my role lynch me if you want" and actually start defending themselves. Mets did a really good job of that in the ITD game, he was under constant pressure and never fell back on his role.
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I get that it seems odd to just prohibit claiming outright, when there is "nothing to claim", but my expectation is that people will just say "welp im VT lynch me if you want, shrug" instead of engaging. That's what I'm trying to avoid.
6. Lynching requires a majority of the town vote, once the majority has been reached any unvotes will not be counted. The majority is half the players alive +1.
Sentence one seems to conflict with sentence two, unless by town vote you mean townies plus mafia. Sentence two makes more sense. To me, a majority of town vote would be less than a majority of all players. Perhaps replace the boldened text in sentence one to say a majority of all players currently alive.
6. Lynching requires a majority of the town vote, once the majority has been reached any unvotes will not be counted. The majority is half the players alive +1.
Sentence one seems to conflict with sentence two, unless by town vote you mean townies plus mafia. Sentence two makes more sense. To me, a majority of town vote would be less than a majority of all players. Perhaps replace the boldened text in sentence one to say a majority of all players currently alive.
I know...picky, picky....
I copy pasted the standard rules from the terms thread. ‘Town’ means all players alive.
I'll join, I will note however that optimal Town strategy for this setup is drastically altered (and Town's success rate greatly improved) by the following:
aage wrote:You must post every single game day. If the day ends and you haven't posted, I will modkill you.
If the first half of the players who post each day all vote for the same person immediately they can effectively lynch half the Town each day. Perhaps a minimum day length of 24-36 hours would be appropriate to prevent mass killings in the event of a speed lynch?
Pikanchion wrote:I'll join, I will note however that optimal Town strategy for this setup is drastically altered (and Town's success rate greatly improved) by the following:
aage wrote:You must post every single game day. If the day ends and you haven't posted, I will modkill you.
If the first half of the players who post each day all vote for the same person immediately they can effectively lynch half the Town each day. Perhaps a minimum day length of 24-36 hours would be appropriate to prevent mass killings in the event of a speed lynch?
In the extremely unlikely event that a day ends before 24-36 hours have passed, you can say "I told you so" and I'll extend the "day" by however long I think the slackers deserve. Speedlynching is 99% of the time done because a cop claims to have found mafia. I don't see that happening here.
I have confidence lol
