Conquer Club

both super cute.....what a date that would be

nietzsche wrote:Drew BArrymore










Michelle Monaghan

Drew Barrymore is a hottie, that's for sure. The other one is okay, but not in the same league.

are you serious???

aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgh


put on your glasses please

nietzsche wrote:are you serious???

aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgh


put on your glasses please

You re like... Losing dude.

As usual, another high class thread from nietzsche, objectifying two women based on their sexual attractiveness and then turning it into a competition.

Lol, they objectify themselves first.


What is wrong with having an opinion on who's prettier?

I hope mets is just trolling you.

trust in god...

nietzsche wrote:Lol, they objectify themselves first.

Have either of these two been in a series of pornographic films that I'm not familiar with? If not, then how exactly do you justify this claim?

What is wrong with having an opinion on who's prettier?

You tell me, you're the one who said "are you serious???" when someone disagreed with you.

Metsfanmax wrote:

nietzsche wrote:Lol, they objectify themselves first.

Have either of these two been in a series of pornographic films that I'm not familiar with? If not, then how exactly do you justify this claim?

What is wrong with having an opinion on who's prettier?

You tell me, you're the one who said "are you serious???" when someone disagreed with you.

What does porn have to do with anything here? You assimilate judging a woman's attractiveness with porn or objectification. The pictures he s posted emphasize on the face. There is nothing sexual there. Your brain analyzes a few hundred of faces per day judging their atractivity. Are these people all victims of objectification?

betiko wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

nietzsche wrote:Lol, they objectify themselves first.

Have either of these two been in a series of pornographic films that I'm not familiar with? If not, then how exactly do you justify this claim?

What is wrong with having an opinion on who's prettier?

You tell me, you're the one who said "are you serious???" when someone disagreed with you.

What does porn have to do with anything here? You assimilate judging a woman's attractiveness with porn or objectification.

nietzsche's statement proved my point. What actresses like Drew Barrymore do is act. They play a character in a film. They aren't selling their bodies or their faces, they're selling their portrayal. But all nietzsche wants to do here is judge their appearance. So he's objectifying real people doing a particular job into people whose only relevant dimension for this thread is how attractive their bodies or faces are. That would be context-appropriate (though not necessarily morally appropriate) only if these folks were known for participating in beauty contests and these were photos from said beauty contests. That is not what this is.

The pictures he s posted emphasize on the face. There is nothing sexual there.

I don't know what y'all do in France, but to most normal people the face is a major component when judging sexual attractiveness. And if you don't think that's the intent of this thread, then how do you explain Dukasaur's comment?

Your brain analyzes a few hundred of faces per day judging their atractivity. Are these people all victims of objectification?

No.

Seriously dude..
Don t take word per word what ultra feminists might say. I m sure you re smart enough to make a mental scale on things.
If there is a thread made by girls asking if tom cruise or shia la boeuf is hotter.. Would i give a shit and feel objectified? The answer, is obviously no.

betiko wrote:Seriously dude..
Don t take word per word what ultra feminists might say. I m sure you re smart enough to make a mental scale on things.

I am smart enough, which is why you should be paying attention instead of just assuming I'm repeating feminist mantras. There are some claims made by some feminists about objectification that I don't agree with (like, I think it's ok for women to make porn and be prostitutes if that is what they want to do), and some that I do. It is important to see things in a context-specific manner. And in this case, I am disgusted because I doubt that Drew Barrymore wants to be compared to other actresses on a metric that has nothing to do with her acting skill.

If there is a thread made by girls asking if tom cruise or shia la boeuf is hotter.. Would i give a shit and feel objectified? The answer, is obviously no.

And yet where are those threads? The internet is filled with threads that only ask this question about women. (Even in this forum, when is the last time you saw a thread like that?) That contributes to a culture where the physical appearance of women is assumed to be more important than that of men, even if it operates only at a subconscious level.

Seriously dude. Those girls are actresses. They play roles were their atractivity is what gives them a role or not. They actually go to castings where they are told right in the face that they now look too old or that they will need someone to make a scene with a hand close up because their hand is not nice. You are being ridiculous.
It is a pleasure itself to look at a beautiful face, and sharing which one gives more emotions, whatever they are.
This is not a thread to judge their rack. This is about two motion picture actresses. You overthink things.

betiko wrote:This is not a thread to judge their rack. This is about two motion picture actresses.

Did you even read the poll title?

Metsfanmax wrote:

betiko wrote:This is not a thread to judge their rack. This is about two motion picture actresses.

Did you even read the poll title?

You got me there. He used the "P" word. It's totally unacceptable!

What with this thread, Symmetry's weird British inbreds and Gillipig's fat fetish I feel like you guys are playing the worst game of 'would you rather' in the world.

Metsfanmax wrote:

nietzsche wrote:Lol, they objectify themselves first.

Have either of these two been in a series of pornographic films that I'm not familiar with?

Because objectification = porn?

Metsfanmax wrote:

betiko wrote:If there is a thread made by girls asking if tom cruise or shia la boeuf is hotter.. Would i give a shit and feel objectified? The answer, is obviously no.

And yet where are those threads? The internet is filled with threads that only ask this question about women. (Even in this forum, when is the last time you saw a thread like that?) That contributes to a culture where the physical appearance of women is assumed to be more important than that of men, even if it operates only at a subconscious level.

This forum is, like, 99.9% male. Why would you expect there to be threads full of guys creaming over Benedict Cumberbatch?

I'm actually a lesbian.

And nobody has seen a picture of me to prove otherwise.

And just to address Mets' grousing that he is unable to find much objectification ( ) of men on the internet, here are some web pages dedicated to just that:

http://tubecrush.net/
https://www.pinterest.com/jjsilver/super-hot-men/
http://godlyguys.tumblr.com/
http://a-hot-men-1.tumblr.com/
http://www.towleroad.com/hot_men/

No doubt. Vote from the Netherlands goes to MM !

Metsfanmax wrote:

betiko wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

nietzsche wrote:Lol, they objectify themselves first.

Have either of these two been in a series of pornographic films that I'm not familiar with? If not, then how exactly do you justify this claim?

What is wrong with having an opinion on who's prettier?

You tell me, you're the one who said "are you serious???" when someone disagreed with you.

What does porn have to do with anything here? You assimilate judging a woman's attractiveness with porn or objectification.

nietzsche's statement proved my point. What actresses like Drew Barrymore do is act. They play a character in a film. They aren't selling their bodies or their faces, they're selling their portrayal. But all nietzsche wants to do here is judge their appearance. So he's objectifying real people doing a particular job into people whose only relevant dimension for this thread is how attractive their bodies or faces are. That would be context-appropriate (though not necessarily morally appropriate) only if these folks were known for participating in beauty contests and these were photos from said beauty contests. That is not what this is.

The pictures he s posted emphasize on the face. There is nothing sexual there.

I don't know what y'all do in France, but to most normal people the face is a major component when judging sexual attractiveness. And if you don't think that's the intent of this thread, then how do you explain Dukasaur's comment?

Your brain analyzes a few hundred of faces per day judging their atractivity. Are these people all victims of objectification?

No.

Not saying you're wrong, if it applied to real actors. I'm sure, though, that you're aware as well as I that many of these "actors" are only in the biz because they've got looks while their acting leaves much to be desired. I wouldn't consider Barrymore to be a very good actor.

And no, I don't think Barrymore is very attractive, but I'm not gonna scale it cuz that's kinda rude.

-TG

mrswdk wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

betiko wrote:If there is a thread made by girls asking if tom cruise or shia la boeuf is hotter.. Would i give a shit and feel objectified? The answer, is obviously no.

And yet where are those threads? The internet is filled with threads that only ask this question about women. (Even in this forum, when is the last time you saw a thread like that?) That contributes to a culture where the physical appearance of women is assumed to be more important than that of men, even if it operates only at a subconscious level.

This forum is, like, 99.9% male. Why would you expect there to be threads full of guys creaming over Benedict Cumberbatch?

What I expect is irrelevant. The point I was making there is that there are a number of threads devoted to comparing the sexual attractiveness of women in this forum, and that helps spread the meme that we should care more about women's looks than other, more important factors. If you're all so interested in comparing women, go make a thread about the presidential chances of Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren.

But you and betiko are probably also missing the point (see below). If you saw a thread asking whether Tom Cruise or Shia La Beouf is hotter, you should be asking why we're considering such an inane question. The fact that it happens to women much more than men on the internet is also a major concern, but that's far from the fundamental problem with this.

And just to address Mets' grousing that he is unable to find much objectification ( ) of men on the internet, here are some web pages dedicated to just that:

http://tubecrush.net/
https://www.pinterest.com/jjsilver/super-hot-men/
http://godlyguys.tumblr.com/
http://a-hot-men-1.tumblr.com/
http://www.towleroad.com/hot_men/

So instead of agreeing that maybe sexually objectifying people is bad, you go and find more examples of sexual objectification. Wonderful.

TG wrote:Not saying you're wrong, if it applied to real actors. I'm sure, though, that you're aware as well as I that many of these "actors" are only in the biz because they've got looks while their acting leaves much to be desired. I wouldn't consider Barrymore to be a very good actor.

To the extent that this is true, it's only because Hollywood is giving people what they want. And that desire is what I am criticizing.