Conquer Club

edit: mc29. This Tournament has been rescued by mviola

Scores and updates can be found here: Scores and Updates


All single players will be divided into teams randomly.

Update: Due to only getting 26 teams, I'm going to follow the same format. It will only consist of 6 groups of 4, with 2 being 5. We'll just work down the list of maps until we are done.

[spoiler=Format]6 Groups of 6 Teams. 1 Game per matchup, round robin. Weakest team is eliminated each round robin round. After each group is down to 2 teams they will be consolidated into 2 more groups. The Final 4 teams will play a 3 Game series round robin. Placement into groups will be random. 3 games will be played at a time. Group standings remain each round to ensure the weakest team is eliminated each round. Example: Round 1 Team 2 goes 3-0 and Team 4 goes 2-1. For round 2 Team 2 would be 4-2 and Team 4 would be 2-4. (Given they have 3 games that round)[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Settings]All games will be played Auto;Sequential;No Spoils;Chained;Sunny
Games will have a 30 round limit to allow for faster rounds.
Final 4 teams will have a 20 round limit due to the increase in games.[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Maps]In order by round. 1 Map per round.
1. WWII Gazala
2. WWII Ardennes
3. Middle Ages
4. Texan Wars
5. Monsters
6. Napoleonic Europe
7. Feudal Epic
Finals
8. Pelopennosian War
8. Poison Rome
8. Soviet Union
9. Age of Merchants
9. Antarctica
9. Bamboo Jack
10. Clandemonium
10. New World
10. Waterloo
11. Chicago
11. Forbidden City
11. Sydney Metro[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Teams]1. Bones2484, Timminz, Serbia, Hath -- 6-6
2. malevolous, Ljex, Swimmerdude99, and Pconnolly365 -- 4-4
3. Leehar, maasman, leapfrog and lequeen -- 11-4
4. Enormastitz, Terry Nutkins, Tin Trumpet, Dorsettrob -- 8-5
5. dowian2, jj3044, qoh, and happyfeet - lord voldemort & LB Ninja subbed out. -- 8-5
6. Night Strike, Gilligan, The Fuzzy Penguin, Fyrdraca -- 3-7
7. aaronvollrath, patrickaa317, aspalm, bigroo4601 -- 10-5
8. nolefan5311, nebsmith, Egel, william tennant -- 6-5
9. Kinnison, freyme, Peter Gibbons, keiths31 -- 1-6
10. mviola, IcePack, Odeuminus, link0983 -- 9-5
11. ukberger, alt1978, coconutt, gunn217 -- 7-4
12. Benzorrr, Gumby7524, Xman5151, Agentcom -- 4-4
13. Skillfusniper33, Captain101, Robbiedub, Magiw - initus subbed out -- 4-4
14. arno30, Mishalex, QuickSilver, Yannixou -- 1-5
15. GeneralJestix, Robespierre__, gas, uckuki -- 12-3
16. DoomYoshi, musteriuz, kiwi3, Dukasaur -- 5-6
17. general bax, psychosos, mrgrateful, Mathys Taljaard -- 0-6
18. benga, machrs, jug68, damohowo -- 2-6
19. silversun6, geko, emporium, TX AG 90 -- 2-6
20. Theldin, slickstick, bosche, madmom -- 1-3
21. V.J., Seamus76, Zoki77, sandman175 (Drags, AlexZG subbed out) -- 4-4
22. theheadholes, pittsburgh00, the manderson, TEG - beatnicpie subbed out -- 2-6
23. angola, jetsetwilly, Hook2, Crazysnakeguy -- 9-4
24. loutil, BYUwonder11, NapoleonTanerite, TheMissionary - s3xt0y subbed out. -- 5-4
25. wombat4, ThrushAAX, puppydog85, General Tazz -- 0-6
26. djeris, mwaser, Nailer X, bjf5893 -- 1-5[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Groups and Standings Rounds 1-3]Maps:
Round 1. WWII Gazala
Round 2. WWII Ardennes
Round 3. Middle Ages

Group 1
1. dowian2, jj3044, lord voldemort, and LB Ninja --- 5-3
2. DoomYoshi, musteriuz, kiwi3, Dukasaur --- 5-3
3. Benzorrr, Gumby7524, Xman5151, Agentcom --- 4-4
4. arno30, Mishalex, QuikSilver, Yannixou --- 1-5

Group 2
1. ukberger, alt1978, coconutt, gunn217 --- 7-1
2. nolefan5311, nebsmith, Egel, william tennant --- 6-2
3. theheadholes, pittsburgh00, the manderson, beatnicpie --- 2-6
4. general bax, psychosos, mrgrateful, Mathys Taljaard --- 0-6

Group 3
1. GeneralJestix, Robespierre__, gas, uckuki --- 7-2
2. mviola, IcePack, Odeuminus, link0983 --- 5-4
3. loutil, BYUwonder11, NapoleonTanerite, TheMissionary --- 5-4 (1-2 head to head with team 2)
4. Kinnison, freyme, Peter Gibbons, keiths31 --- 1-6
5. Theldin, slickstick, bosche, madmom --- 1-3

Group 4(Active Games:
1. Enormastitz, Terry Nutkins, Tin Trumpet, Dorsettrob --- 6-2
2. Bones2484, Timminz, Barterer2002, Hath --- 5-3
2. malevolous, Ljex, Swimmerdude99, and Pconnolly365 --- 4-4
4. wombat4, ThrushAAX, puppydog85, General Tazz --- 0-6

Group 5
1. Leehar, maasman, leapfrog and lequeen --- 8-2
2. aaronvollrath, patrickaa317, aspalm, bigroo4601 --- 7-3
3. Night Strike, Gilligan, The Fuzzy Penguin, Fyrdraca--- 3-7
4. silversun6, geko, emporium, TX AG 90 --- 2-6
5. benga, machrs, jug68, damohowo --- 2-6

Group 6
1. angola, jetsetwilly, Hook2, Crazysnakeguy --- 5-3
2. Skillfusniper33, Captain101, Robbiedub, Magiw --- 5-3
3. V.J., Seamus76, Zoki77, sandman175 --- 4-4
4. djeris, mwaser, Nailer X, bjf5893 --- 1-5[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Groups and Standings Rounds 4-5]Maps:
Round 4. Texan Wars
Round 5. Monsters


Group 1
1. Bones2484, Timminz, Serbia, Hath -- 1-4
2. GeneralJestix, Robespierre__, gas, uckuki -- 5-1
3. Leehar, maasman, leapfrog and lequeen -- 3-2
4. ukberger, alt1978, coconutt, gunn217 -- 0-3

Group 2
1. nolefan5311, nebsmith, Egel, william tennant -- 0-3
2. angola, jetsetwilly, Hook2, Crazysnakeguy -- 4-1
3. Enormastitz, Terry Nutkins, Tin Trumpet, Dorsettrob -- 2-3
4. dowian2, jj3044, QoH, and happyfeet -- 3-2

Group 3
1. Skillfusniper33, Captain101, Robbiedub, Magiw -- 2-3
2. aaronvollrath, patrickaa317, aspalm, bigroo4601 -- 3-2
3. DoomYoshi, musteriuz, kiwi3, Dukasaur -- 0-3
4. mviola, IcePack, Odeuminus, link0983 -- 4-1[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Standings Rounds 6-7]Maps:
Round 6. Napoleonic Europe
Round 7. Feudal Epic

Teams
1. dowian2, jj3044, qoh, and happyfeet -- 7-2/77% (15-7/68%)
2. mviola, IcePack, Odeuminus, link0983 -- 6-3/66% (15-8/65%)
3. angola, jetsetwilly, Hook2, Crazysnakeguy -- 4-5/44% (13-9/59%)
4. GeneralJestix, Robespierre__, gas, uckuki -- 4-5 (16-8/66%)
5. Leehar, maasman, leapfrog and lequeen -- 3-6 (14-10/58%)
6. [s]aaronvollrath, patrickaa317, aspalm, bigroo4601 -- 1-4 (11-9)[/spoiler]

8. Pelopennosian War
8. Poison Rome
8. Soviet Union
9. Age of Merchants
9. Antarctica
9. Bamboo Jack
10. Clandemonium
10. New World
10. Waterloo
11. Chicago
11. Forbidden City
11. Sydney Metro

Finalists
1. dowian2, jj3044, swimmerdude99, and happyfeet -- 1-5 (16-12/57%)
2. GeneralJestix, Robespierre__, gas, uckuki -- 4-2 (20-10/66%)
3. mviola, IcePack, Odeuminus, link0983 -- 4-2 (19-10/66%)
4. angola, jetsetwilly, Hook2, Crazysnakeguy -- 3-3 (16-12/57%)

Overall record and win percentage updated each round only.

Bones2484, Timminz, Barterer2002, Hath

I'm a bit confused about the rules.

The way I'm seeing it, there will be the following number of teams each round: 32, 30, 28, 26, 24, 22, 20, 18, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2. Based on this, there are 23 rounds.... am I misreading? If not, why are there 36 maps?

The way I'm seeing it, there will be a 16-team round robin in Division A, and a 16-team round robin in Division B. After 45 games per team, you'll eliminate the weakest team in each division. Then, there will be a 15-team round robin in Division A, and a 15-team round robin in Division B. This means the winning team will play a total of (15+14+13+12+11+10+9+8+15+14+13+12+11+10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1)*3= 636 quads games. Again, am I misreading this?

dowian2 wrote:I'm a bit confused about the rules.

The way I'm seeing it, there will be the following number of teams each round: 32, 30, 28, 26, 24, 22, 20, 18, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2. Based on this, there are 23 rounds.... am I misreading? If not, why are there 36 maps?

The way I'm seeing it, there will be a 16-team round robin in Division A, and a 16-team round robin in Division B. After 45 games per team, you'll eliminate the weakest team in each division. Then, there will be a 15-team round robin in Division A, and a 15-team round robin in Division B. This means the winning team will play a total of (15+14+13+12+11+10+9+8+15+14+13+12+11+10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1)*3= 636 quads games. Again, am I misreading this?

My first thought on seeing the format was "<unprintable>, this is gonna take a while..." But yes, my understanding mirrors yours.

I didn't do the math, but if you guys are right, do you know how many years it will take for this to finish playing out doing (1) 3-game set at a time?........decades, literally.
Playing 45 games in the first round alone will take a year minimum...probably closer to 2 years. Quads games are notoriously slow.

In with Ljex, Swimmerdude99, and Pconnolly365.

dowian2 wrote:I'm a bit confused about the rules.

The way I'm seeing it, there will be the following number of teams each round: 32, 30, 28, 26, 24, 22, 20, 18, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2. Based on this, there are 23 rounds.... am I misreading? If not, why are there 36 maps?

The way I'm seeing it, there will be a 16-team round robin in Division A, and a 16-team round robin in Division B. After 45 games per team, you'll eliminate the weakest team in each division. Then, there will be a 15-team round robin in Division A, and a 15-team round robin in Division B. This means the winning team will play a total of (15+14+13+12+11+10+9+8+15+14+13+12+11+10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1)*3= 636 quads games. Again, am I misreading this?

Now that I re-read the set up, this is the way I read it too. If this is true, please remove our team from the tournament... way too many games for me.

Reserved entry pending members tbc and clarification on format

Add me to a team if there is room...reserve.

[player]Enormastitz[/player]
[player]Terry Nutkins[/player]
[player]Tin Trumpet[/player]
[player]Dorsettrob[/player]

Clarification of format would be good.

As others have mentioned, you need to clarify the structure of the tournament. Tournaments are supposed to be designed so that they will finish in 1 year. The way I'm reading your setup, this tournament doesn't even attempt to do that.

Kinnison wrote:My first thought on seeing the format was "<unprintable>, this is gonna take a while..." But yes, my understanding mirrors yours.

ubcman64 wrote:I didn't do the math, but if you guys are right, do you know how many years it will take for this to finish playing out doing (1) 3-game set at a time?........decades, literally.

I thought ubc was exaggerating a tad, so i did some more math. At 3 months for each "set", the approximate run time is 53 years. if you could cram that down to a month per set, it becomes only ~18 years. ...still a trifle long.

I love Round Robin, but it does take time. PM sent to TheMissionary with some ideas.

Kinnison wrote:

Kinnison wrote:My first thought on seeing the format was "<unprintable>, this is gonna take a while..." But yes, my understanding mirrors yours.

ubcman64 wrote:I didn't do the math, but if you guys are right, do you know how many years it will take for this to finish playing out doing (1) 3-game set at a time?........decades, literally.

I thought ubc was exaggerating a tad, so i did some more math. At 3 months for each "set", the approximate run time is 53 years. if you could cram that down to a month per set, it becomes only ~18 years. ...still a trifle long.

I love Round Robin, but it does take time. PM sent to TheMissionary with some ideas.

i'm going to have to pass on joining this tournament. at age 42, the odds are good that i won't live long enough to see it through to the end.

ubcman64 wrote:i'm going to have to pass on joining this tournament. at age 42, the odds are good that i won't live long enough to see it through to the end.

Hey, I'm 43, and assembling a team. You wuss. C'mon, you need something other than Canasta to play in retirement...

Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was in a hurry when I posted the tournament as I had a deadline. I am currently working on reworking the format to make it less games and right number of games/maps per round.

Ok, I think i have it worked out. I added 4 teams and made the format faster. I think all in all it should be 12 rounds. If anyone see's anything wrong please let me know via PM.

dowian2 wrote:I'm a bit confused about the rules.

The way I'm seeing it, there will be the following number of teams each round: 36, 30, 24, 18, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 1 . Based on this, there are 9 rounds.... am I misreading? If not, why are there 36 maps?

The way I'm seeing it, there will be a 6-team round robin in Division A, and a 6-team round robin in Division B, C, D, E, F. After 5 games per team, you'll eliminate the weakest team in each division. Then, there will be a 5-team round robin in Division A, and a 5-team round robin in Division B, C etc. This means the winning team will play a total of (5+4+3+2+5+4+3+2+9) = 37 quads games? Again, am I misreading this?

Ok, I bolded the relevant numbers that I edited from dowians reading with the current format. (and ignoring the last sentence of 3 games every round-since it's 1 game per team for the first two 6 team RR stages.

I don't think this is too bad?

Either way, I'm in with a team of maasman, leapfrog and lequeen, since this does seem manageable.

Basically, it's 6 teams in 6 groups for the first stage, and then 6 teams with 2 groups for the second, with still only 1 game played against the other teams. (with teams dropping out at the end of each 'round' until there are 2 left in the group?)
And then in the final group there's 4 teams, with 3 games played against each of the 3 teams?

However, I'm not so certain you'll get 36 quads teams within the month? it's still 144 players, so just check how quickly other recent quad team tournaments have filled?

Leehar wrote:

dowian2 wrote:I'm a bit confused about the rules.

The way I'm seeing it, there will be the following number of teams each round: 36, 30, 24, 18, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 1 . Based on this, there are 9 rounds.... am I misreading? If not, why are there 36 maps?

The way I'm seeing it, there will be a 6-team round robin in Division A, and a 6-team round robin in Division B, C, D, E, F. After 5 games per team, you'll eliminate the weakest team in each division. Then, there will be a 5-team round robin in Division A, and a 5-team round robin in Division B, C etc. This means the winning team will play a total of (5+4+3+2+5+4+3+2+9) = 37 quads games? Again, am I misreading this?

Ok, I bolded the relevant numbers that I edited from dowians reading with the current format. (and ignoring the last sentence of 3 games every round-since it's 1 game per team for the first two 6 team RR stages.

I don't think this is too bad?

Either way, I'm in with a team of maasman, leapfrog and lequeen, since this does seem manageable.

Basically, it's 6 teams in 6 groups for the first stage, and then 6 teams with 2 groups for the second, with still only 1 game played against the other teams. (with teams dropping out at the end of each 'round' until there are 2 left in the group?)
And then in the final group there's 4 teams, with 3 games played against each of the 3 teams?

However, I'm not so certain you'll get 36 quads teams within the month? it's still 144 players, so just check how quickly other recent quad team tournaments have filled?

Thats correct. I will keep an eye on the teams and once things slow down I might allow individuals to sign up for random teams.

dowian2, jj3044, lord voldemort, and LB Ninja are in, please. Thanks for the revamp.

Like the changes! Our team from the first page is definitely in

I think those changes will suffice.

Please sign my team up:

[player]Night Strike[/player]
[player]Gilligan[/player]
[player]The Fuzzy Pengui[/player]
[player]Fyrdraca[/player]

s3xt0y and 3 others will get back to you

in please:

aaronvollrath
patrickaa317
aspalm
bigroo4601

nolefan5311
nebsmith
Egel
william tennant

Thanks!