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If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:48 pm
by Symmetry
When did you decide to be straight? Did you balance the options? When did you make the choice to be heterosexual?

Does this seem like a difficult question? Are you feeling that you never actually made a conscious decision to be heterosexual? Do you think at this point that maybe homosexuals went through the same thing as you, and maybe, just maybe, didn't make a choice about who they were attracted to?

If you believe homosexuality is a choice, explain how you dealt with that decision between gay and straight in you own life. What were the temptations?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:18 am
by Night Strike
Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:20 am
by Metsfanmax
Why do you think people who are gay chose to go against nature?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:20 am
by InkL0sed
Night Strike wrote:Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.


90% of giraffe sex is gay. So what's more natural for them?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:21 am
by Night Strike
Metsfanmax wrote:Why do you think people who are gay chose to go against nature?


Because they've been deceived.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:21 am
by Metsfanmax
Night Strike wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Why do you think people who are gay chose to go against nature?


Because they've been deceived.


By whom?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:25 am
by Symmetry
Night Strike wrote:Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.


Would you say that you were born with your sexuality? If there were homosexuals in your school promoting ideas that homosexuals are equal, would it have a more difficult choice? Can you describe the kind of education that might have persuaded you to choose homosexuality?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:30 am
by Army of GOD
Symmetry wrote:When did you decide to be straight? Did you balance the options? When did you make the choice to be heterosexual?


Because personally, I prefer to f*ck a vagina than have a penis in me. Men, in my opinion, tend to be hairier, and I fucking hate hair on someone I'm having sex with/cuddling.

Granted, I've never actaully HAD a penis in me before, but I feel like it's the same as when people tell me to try new foods. "I don't have to taste a piece of poop to know that I don't like it."

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:34 am
by Night Strike
Symmetry wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.


Would you say that you were born with your sexuality? If there were homosexuals in your school promoting ideas that homosexuals are equal, would it have a more difficult choice? Can you describe the kind of education that might have persuaded you to choose homosexuality?


Homosexuals ARE equal, so that comment is irrelevant. And I also don't think education should be used to indoctrinate students to choose a lifestyle that is not considered natural.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:38 am
by Symmetry
Army of GOD wrote:
Symmetry wrote:When did you decide to be straight? Did you balance the options? When did you make the choice to be heterosexual?


Because personally, I prefer to f*ck a vagina than have a penis in me. Men, in my opinion, tend to be hairier, and I fucking hate hair on someone I'm having sex with/cuddling.

Granted, I've never actaully HAD a penis in me before, but I feel like it's the same as when people tell me to try new foods. "I don't have to taste a piece of poop to know that I don't like it."


Yeah, erm, non-closeted gay men tend to compare banging a woman in the vajayjay to banging a dude in the ass. Your mind kind of went to being banged in the ass straight off, which is kind of weird, especially with the hair thing.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:38 am
by InkL0sed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual ... in_animals
A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species.


ALL OF NATURE IS UNNATURAL

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:40 am
by Metsfanmax
InkL0sed wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species.


ALL OF NATURE IS UNNATURAL


Those animals got duped by the gay lobby yo

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:41 am
by Army of GOD
Symmetry wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
Symmetry wrote:When did you decide to be straight? Did you balance the options? When did you make the choice to be heterosexual?


Because personally, I prefer to f*ck a vagina than have a penis in me. Men, in my opinion, tend to be hairier, and I fucking hate hair on someone I'm having sex with/cuddling.

Granted, I've never actaully HAD a penis in me before, but I feel like it's the same as when people tell me to try new foods. "I don't have to taste a piece of poop to know that I don't like it."


Yeah, erm, non-closeted gay men tend to compare banging a woman in the vajayjay to banging a dude in the ass. Your mind kind of went to being banged in the ass straight off, which is kind of weird, especially with the hair thing.


Yea. I can compare eating a cheeseburger to killing a man with my bare hands, but that doesn't mean you'd agree.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:44 am
by Victor Sullivan
There is choice involved in homosexuality, but it's not whether or not a guy likes guys or gals, it's whether he chooses to act on his sexual attraction. You can't really choose to not be attracted to men or women.

-Sully

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:46 am
by Symmetry
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.


Would you say that you were born with your sexuality? If there were homosexuals in your school promoting ideas that homosexuals are equal, would it have a more difficult choice? Can you describe the kind of education that might have persuaded you to choose homosexuality?


Homosexuals ARE equal, so that comment is irrelevant. And I also don't think education should be used to indoctrinate students to choose a lifestyle that is not considered natural.


You seem to be a bit uncomfortable with the question. I can ask it more simply- what would have tempted you to go gay? If the answer is "nothing", then what's the problem with teaching kids about homosexuality?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:49 am
by Army of GOD
InkL0sed wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species.


ALL OF NATURE IS UNNATURAL


Yea, but I don't think that's a completely valid comparison, considering we can think complexly. Not that I'm saying heterosexuality IS the natural thing. There IS not natural state.

Some people think killing innocent people is "naturally" or innately immoral. Yet some animals have no problem killing their siblings, parents, life partners, etc.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:51 am
by Phatscotty
Sexual preference is best dealt with by the parents, but sometimes with those hard line parents who say they will disown their gay child or something like that it's also cool if the child can talk to a school counselor. I'm not so sure about in an actual classroom as a lesson.

Why would a teacher at school with a classroom of 30-40 completely different children, be the better place for a child to learn about the H-word?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:55 am
by BigBallinStalin
InkL0sed wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.


90% of giraffe sex is gay. So what's more natural for them?


Because they've been deceived.


(Thank you, NS, for that one.)

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:56 am
by BigBallinStalin
NS, by "natural," are you referring to God's laws?

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:01 am
by Phatscotty
I wasn't going to make a natural argument, but now yas got me thinkin about it.

The fertile eggs in a vagina give purpose to the semen discharge of the penis. They are meant for each other.

On the other hand, you can't knock up a dingle-berry, no matter how ripe it might be.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:26 am
by saxitoxin
Army of GOD wrote:Men, in my opinion, tend to be hairier, and I fucking hate hair on someone I'm having sex with/cuddling.


Aog likes twinks

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:23 am
by BigBallinStalin
Really, AoG, it's perfectly natural, so there's nothing wrong about it at all.

So, do be a good lad, and go play with the twinks to your heart's content.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:22 am
by PLAYER57832
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Heterosexuality is the natural state of human sexuality, so of course I went with it. I did not choose to go against nature and decide that I liked males.


Would you say that you were born with your sexuality? If there were homosexuals in your school promoting ideas that homosexuals are equal, would it have a more difficult choice? Can you describe the kind of education that might have persuaded you to choose homosexuality?


Homosexuals ARE equal, so that comment is irrelevant.

The might be equal, but they are absolutely not treated equally, not even close.
Night Strike wrote:And I also don't think education should be used to indoctrinate students to choose a lifestyle that is not considered natural.

Since when did simply mentioning that something exists and that hatred is not an appropriate response become "indoctrination"? Because, despite all the right wing claims to the contrary, that IS what is being challenged here.

This sounds like your earlier comment that "sex education" was about how to have sex, not STDs, the mechanics, issues, etc. :roll:

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:25 am
by Dukasaur
Phatscotty wrote:I wasn't going to make a natural argument, but now yas got me thinkin about it.

The fertile eggs in a vagina give purpose to the semen discharge of the penis. They are meant for each other.

On the other hand, you can't knock up a dingle-berry, no matter how ripe it might be.

As Desmond Morris pointed out in The Naked Ape, any sexual pattern that doesn't result in progeny is deviant. Therefore (his words, not mine) a Catholic nun is every bit as deviant, no more and no less, as a homosexual.

Re: If homosexuality is a choice...

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:30 am
by PLAYER57832
Phatscotty wrote:Sexual preference is best dealt with by the parents, but sometimes with those hard line parents who say they will disown their gay child or something like that it's also cool if the child can talk to a school counselor. I'm not so sure about in an actual classroom as a lesson.
Unfortunatley, too many parents are themselves either misinformed or too uncomfortable talking about these issues. There is a line of distinction here. The school's job is to teach the "biology ", (maybe some sociology, etc.). The parent's job is to teach morality.

Phatscotty wrote:Why would a teacher at school with a classroom of 30-40 completely different children, be the better place for a child to learn about the H-word?

The fact is they WILL learn the word, because it is used so predominantly. The question is whether they learn, in school, a school context for that word..namely the basic fact of what it is and what it is not. It is important that kids learn that homosexuality is not akin to pedophilia, is not considered an "illness" any longer, though some religious groups do have problems with it. Basically, the analogy I would draw is learning about Hinduism or Buddhism. If you study other cultures, even some of the divirsity of the US, knowing the rought basics of "what it is" is important.

If you want to teach that homosexuality is evil, that is your perogative, but it should not be done in school.

Anyway, I have said this before and will say it again. I used to be very much, well I don't know if "against" homosexuality is precisely correct, its more that I found the entire idea disgusting and plain could not understand it. Anyway, then I found myself working with some who were "that way". These few were not shy about it. People were downright mean, in very childish ways. Things like "I'll give anyone a ride to town except them" or "anyone but them can have some chips" (including the guy who never washed his hands :? ) . I made no bones about having religious issues with homosexuality, but as I said, I was also taught to treat people decently. Then, I found myself being accused of being homosexual myself, basically because I was not one of the "froofy" girls, declined a couple of guys (not the most stellar examples of the male gender, but "of course" the only reason I could turn them down was being homo :roll: ). And, I had the audacity to actually outwork a few guys (note.. I am a petite, not very "buff" woman.. these guys just were lazy and would not listen to directions). Sadly, one supervisor actually believed this and even decided it was reason to try and get rid of me. I survived, actually wound up getting a promotion of sorts, but I had to put up with several months of pure h*ll.

Nor was that the only time.

The real truth is that most of you probably know people who are homosexual. And, unless you know them well, chances are you would guess wrong. The homosexuals who match the obnoxious stereotypes are roughly the same as those heterosexuals who go around flaunting themselves, who border on (or actually engage willingly in) prostitution,etc. MOST are no different from anyone else, unless you care to worry about what they do in their private bedrooms. AND, I will say that more homosexuals with children seem to have functioning locks on their bedroom doors than heterosexuals.