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Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:21 pm
by bedub1
[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/CjUhC.jpg[/bigimg]
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:22 pm
by shieldgenerator7
Star Wars all the way!
Cool scifi tech mixed with fantasy VS. all fantasy with a few tricks. Star Wars wins.
(personally I'd say Star Trek wins but it's not part of the question here)
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:25 pm
by PLAYER57832
Harry Potter has the advantage of a lot of technology not available in the 70's. Also, part of the star wars deal was that it was a movie -- alone (though there are some Dean Foster books that gave some of the story earlier). At the time, it was well beyond anything ever shown in the movies. Harry Potter, by contrast had to compete with a book.
So.. both are great, but they really don't compare. Star Wars was a great 1970's move that helped shepard in a return to sci fi (along with a few others like ET). Harry Potter was a book that helped bring reading to a lot of kids, particularly middel school boys, who otherwise were not reading.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:51 pm
by Phatscotty
Harry Twatter
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:02 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
This poll does not conform to the time honoured off-topics tradition of including a GFY/hecter/kittens/ponies/etc option, therefore I'm boycotting it.
Also, don't particularly like either of those.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:10 pm
by natty dread
Phatscotty wrote:Harry Twatter
Seriously?
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:29 pm
by bedub1
Haggis_McMutton wrote:This poll does not conform to the time honoured off-topics tradition of including a GFY/hecter/kittens/ponies/etc option, therefore I'm boycotting it.
Also, don't particularly like either of those.
So vote for the one that sucks more. Notice that the poll doesn't even really ask a question?
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:09 pm
by Army of GOD
Wow, JK Rowling is a plagiarizing bitch.
The original three Star Wars are lightyears ahead of Harry Cuntter and the latest three Star Wars are equal to Harry Dickker.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:26 pm
by Dukasaur
Harry Potter is a lot of fun, but the Star Wars universe is more logically consistent, both externally and internally. Both take rather illogical leaps to establish a magic system, but at least Star Wars makes some attempt to ground its "Force" in reality and tie it together into a consistent system, whereas the spells in the Harry Potterverse are thrown together higgledy-piggledy without any kind of ground rules or metaphysical explanation. The Harry Potter movies do have better acting and a cuter heroine, but the holes in the plot are monstrous.
Note: congrats on the collage, it is beautifully done!
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:32 pm
by bedub1
Dukasaur wrote:Note: congrats on the collage, it is beautifully done!
Unfortunately I cannot take credit for collage. I found it on imgur, which prompted me to create this thread. I found it most enlightening also.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:14 pm
by PLAYER57832
Dukasaur wrote: . The Harry Potter movies do have better acting and a cuter heroine, but the holes in the plot are monstrous.
The Harry Potter movies are chop spin offs of the books. The books have the real plots. Unfortunately, anyone having already seen the movies will get enough plot to spoil while missing a lot of what made the books wonderful.
Only the first movie was true to the books, though the second was close. The movies miss a lot about why Harry/Dumbledore do as they do.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:32 pm
by radiojake
They're both crap
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:53 pm
by Army of GOD
radiojake wrote:Losers. I was into movies back when they were underground.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:06 pm
by radiojake
Army of GOD's misappropriation of radiojake wrote:Losers. I was into movies back when they were underground.
Movies were underground at some point?
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:32 pm
by squishyg
Army of GOD wrote:Wow, JK Rowling is a plagiarizing bitch.
Yes, because Star Wars is a completely original story that in no way borrows from anything that came before it.
They are both groundbreaking, wonderful projects that mean a lot to people. Really no need to pick a winnah here, but to be a joiner, I picked HP. If we're going movie versus movie, Star Wars absolutely rules, but in terms of the broader story and universe, I prefer Harry.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:38 pm
by Army of GOD
squishyg wrote:Army of GOD wrote:Wow, JK Rowling is a plagiarizing bitch.
Yes, because Star Wars is a completely original story that in no way borrows from anything that came before it.
No I know, I couldn't pass up a chance to rail Rowling though.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:12 pm
by PLAYER57832
The biggest problem with the poll is that Harry Potter were great books that were made into mostly just OK movies, while Star Wars was a great movie (for its time) made from barely OK books.
Also, even though Star Wars pales by today's standards, I believe it more fully stretched the technology available at the time than Harry Potter has.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:39 pm
by squishyg
PLAYER57832 wrote:The biggest problem with the poll is that Harry Potter were great books that were made into mostly just OK movies, while Star Wars was a great movie (for its time) made from barely OK books.
Also, even though Star Wars pales by today's standards, I believe it more fully stretched the technology available at the time than Harry Potter has.
Star Wars is not based on a book. Books came out after the movies to continue the story.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:02 pm
by PLAYER57832
squishyg wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:The biggest problem with the poll is that Harry Potter were great books that were made into mostly just OK movies, while Star Wars was a great movie (for its time) made from barely OK books.
Also, even though Star Wars pales by today's standards, I believe it more fully stretched the technology available at the time than Harry Potter has.
Star Wars is not based on a book. Books came out after the movies to continue the story.
[sigh] It's debated, some.
The official version now is that Alan Dean Foster ghostwrote the stories. I used to know the whole bit, but not anymore, did find this, though:
http://www.cultfilmfreak.com/alandeanfoster
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:25 pm
by Dukasaur
PLAYER57832 wrote:squishyg wrote:Star Wars is not based on a book. Books came out after the movies to continue the story.
[sigh] It's debated, some.
The official version now is that Alan Dean Foster ghostwrote the stories. I used to know the whole bit, but not anymore, did find this, though:
http://www.cultfilmfreak.com/alandeanfoster
I don't know what you are trying to argue. The link you gave supports what you seem to be opposing.
How did George Lucas come to you about ghostwriting the novelization for “Star Wars”?
My agent was contacted to see if I might be interested in novelizing this soon-to-be-released SF film called THE STAR WARS, being done by George Lucas.
Quite clearly, the movies were basically finished and getting ready for release when Lucas began negotiating with Foster to write the books. That's a direct quote from the link you provided, so what exactly are you claiming?
Nevertheless, the "official" books are quite dull. But there were a lot of books that took basic Star Wars saga in different directions, and some of them were excellent.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:18 pm
by jonesthecurl
So: I guess none of you ever watched the TV series Dead Ringers...
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:22 pm
by johnnyrotten
Dear lord, Jones! What on earth are you still doing here in this forsaken dump?
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:29 pm
by jonesthecurl
Mirror mirror
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:43 am
by JoshyBoy
Not enough kids in here to vote for Harry Potter. Star Wars got my vote.
Re: Star Wars vs Harry Potter
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:15 pm
by PLAYER57832
Dukasaur wrote: PLAYER57832 wrote:squishyg wrote:Star Wars is not based on a book. Books came out after the movies to continue the story.
[sigh] It's debated, some.
The official version now is that Alan Dean Foster ghostwrote the stories. I used to know the whole bit, but not anymore, did find this, though:
http://www.cultfilmfreak.com/alandeanfoster
I don't know what you are trying to argue. The link you gave supports what you seem to be opposing.
How did George Lucas come to you about ghostwriting the novelization for “Star Wars”?
My agent was contacted to see if I might be interested in novelizing this soon-to-be-released SF film called THE STAR WARS, being done by George Lucas.
Quite clearly, the movies were basically finished and getting ready for release when Lucas began negotiating with Foster to write the books. That's a direct quote from the link you provided, so what exactly are you claiming?
Not claiming anything except that there were a lot of different stories about how Star Wars came about, but now you can only find the "official" version.
Basically, there were supposed to have been several books that outlined the story or parts of it before Lucas even came into the picture. One story has it that Alan Dean's association was by no means cooincidental. It was a long time ago, though and I don't remember more details, nor could I google them.
Dukasaur wrote:Nevertheless, the "official" books are quite dull. But there were a lot of books that took basic Star Wars saga in different directions, and some of them were excellent.
Exactly...
My basic point was that the Harry Potter movie was a pale copy of the books, but Star Wars was an excellent movie.