Conquer Club

So, I've recently returned to education-land, to up my knowledge, and that got me wondering about the various levels of learnedness among the posters, and lurkers, of the forum that shall not be named.



Feel free to lie, and tell us you're a doctor in your replies, but please vote honestly. No one can tell what you voted for, so we'll totally believe you.



I've left available the option to change your votes, so that whenever someone attains a higher distinction, they can alter their input appropriately.

auto-didactic along with intense indoctrination from the educational establishment.

Some college/university.

-rd

hardly ever went to secondary school,and never took any exams

Bachelors degree, working on another one now.

Some college/university...currently working my way through college.

However, schooling alone cannot accurately gauge a person's level of education. There is such a thing as self-learning.

Senior year of high school right now. Going to college

I've got 40 Phds.

tkr4lf wrote:schooling alone cannot accurately gauge a person's level of education.

Sure, but it's generally the best indicator.

Agreed. Just gotta keep in mind that some people who accomplished quite a bit never went to school outside of primary school. They were self-taught. Reading books, gaining knowledge from experience, that sort of thing. But that is much more uncommon nowadays I think.

tkr4lf wrote:Agreed. Just gotta keep in mind that some people who accomplished quite a bit never went to school outside of primary school. They were self-taught. Reading books, gaining knowledge from experience, that sort of thing. But that is much more uncommon nowadays I think.

I would say with the growth of the internet, there is a far greater capacity to self-teach.

Haggis_McMutton wrote:I've got 40 Phds.

I've got 41 PhDs and a Bachelors in One-Upping

Timminz wrote:So, I've recently returned to education-land, to up my knowledge, and that got me wondering about the various levels of learnedness among the posters, and lurkers, of the forum that shall not be named.

The degree one has is not the best measure of education, not really. I grew up with plenty of farmers, for example, who might not have degrees, but who knew more about not just agriculture, but politics, history, etc than many with advanced degrees. Further, they tended to be less absolute, more willing to listen, to think thye might not have the answer and to be willing to go out and find answers.

Today, and in this forum, I see far more of people who think they are educated because they have never really been exposed to ideas other than their own in a realistic and reasonable fashion. (I mean, saying liberals want more government is one thing when people realize it is an exageration,political rhetoric. However, when people believe that is the honest truth.. it means they have never learned what liberalism really means, its place or impact on history, etc.).

rdsrds2120 wrote:Some college/university.

-rd

Same. Starting my 3rd trimester in my first year.

nagerous wrote:

tkr4lf wrote:Agreed. Just gotta keep in mind that some people who accomplished quite a bit never went to school outside of primary school. They were self-taught. Reading books, gaining knowledge from experience, that sort of thing. But that is much more uncommon nowadays I think.

I would say with the growth of the internet, there is a far greater capacity to self-teach.

Quite true. And to self-unteach, unfortunately.

Middle of college right now. So, some college education.

Woodruff wrote:

nagerous wrote:

tkr4lf wrote:Agreed. Just gotta keep in mind that some people who accomplished quite a bit never went to school outside of primary school. They were self-taught. Reading books, gaining knowledge from experience, that sort of thing. But that is much more uncommon nowadays I think.

I would say with the growth of the internet, there is a far greater capacity to self-teach.

Quite true. And to self-unteach, unfortunately.

I see far more of this and its one reason I have come to strongly believe in compulsory education, even though I believe in freedom of thought. Without knowledge, there is no freedom.

To be fair, there isnt really any reason why issues of quality of information and information selection skills couldn't improve in the future. As is the case with most technology, people's understanding and application of technology usually lags behind its development.

We are not really talking about that long of a period of time considering the amount of information people now have the ability to access.

Some people may qualify in more than one category, such as a college diploma and a university degree.

There is an old saying that I like;

'Just because you are book smart, doesn't mean that you are not a chump'

Sure, University is one thing (I just commenced my 2nd year this week), but I sure as hell know some people who blitzed high school with top grades and got into Law or Medicine in University, but I would consider them stupid people.

"You got your degree. Now go be a man."

Now your'e a man.

Well, sure, going to law school is no indicator of intelligence. But getting an advanced degree in the sciences does require some measure of knowledge and intelligence.

got tonkaed wrote:To be fair, there isnt really any reason why issues of quality of information and information selection skills couldn't improve in the future. As is the case with most technology, people's understanding and application of technology usually lags behind its development.

We are not really talking about that long of a period of time considering the amount of information people now have the ability to access.

I don't think ability is the primary limitation. I believe it is desire. Many groups have no desire to truly educate. They just want others to follow their cause, and pretend their methods to convince are "education". (and that applies to groups across the political spectrum, all creeds, etc.)

Going to some college/university, but I won't mind if you call me a doctor.

I have a college diploma and i'm finishing up my bachelors right now, plan on getting my masters after.