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No matter how fucking random the dice are or whatever you fucking math tells you the "odds" are.
7 fucking troops SHOULD be able to kill a single EVERY TIME!
this is the issue.
If you think I'm whining, f*ck off.
If you think the math 'supports' a different theory, f*ck off.
If you think someone else must have experienced great dice, it's TRUE.........THE FUCKING DEFENDER DID AND ITS BULLSHIT and he can f*ck off.
I challenge ANYONE to get dice like this and not be pissed off about it. Weather you support the dice the way they are or you think they are fucked up.........THIS WAS FUCKED UP, IT JUST HAPPENED, AND ITS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
7v1 followed by
6v1 followed by
5v1 followed by
4v1 followed by
3v1 followed by
2v1 LOSE ALL
THIS SHOULD NEVER LOSE.
Yet it does, constantly because of the fucked up system.
No wonder Pedro is leaving.
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The more I see these threads, the more I realize how much I love CC.

wait... let me get this straight... you lost 7v1?...-the black jesus

I don't mean to be "that guy", but a 7 should kill a 1 99.67051261853217% of the time.

Out of curiosity shouldn't the GIVE - A - f*ck - O - METER in your avatar be going up with this rant?

btw telling me to F off is NOT "I care language"

It would almost be interesting (ok that was a lie) if you didn't make, what feels like, two dice whine threads a week.
Huge yawn.

these is nothing-i had 8 agains 1 and i lost (probably know how im feel)
also i had 21 against 3 and i lost.

L M S wrote:No matter how fucking random the dice are or whatever you fucking math tells you the "odds" are.
7 fucking troops SHOULD be able to kill a single EVERY TIME!

I see your failing to understand that because the dice are random you have a chance to lose 7vs1.

L M S wrote:If you think I'm whining, f*ck off.
If you think the math 'supports' a different theory, f*ck off.
If you think someone else must have experienced great dice, it's TRUE.........THE FUCKING DEFENDER DID AND ITS BULLSHIT and he can f*ck off.

I also see you failing to understand the point of a forum

L M S wrote:I challenge ANYONE to get dice like this and not be pissed off about it. Weather you support the dice the way they are or you think they are fucked up.........THIS WAS FUCKED UP, IT JUST HAPPENED, AND ITS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

I had dice like this, was very pissed off, I think I even shouted against my computer when it happened. But really,.. making a topic on a forum that already has 1000+ topics from other frustrated dumb asses that have nothing better to do than bitch about the dice... no.

L M S wrote:7v1 followed by
6v1 followed by
5v1 followed by
4v1 followed by
3v1 followed by
2v1 LOSE ALL
THIS SHOULD NEVER LOSE.

Actually, someone else in this topic already calculated the chance that you lose this.

Why do people fail to understand that random dice does crazy shit ? There is no pattern, when the defender throws a 6 (1/6 chance) the turn after that the chance that he throws a 6 again is still 1/6.
I.o.w. The chance of the defender throwing: 3-2-3-1-4-1 is the same as the chance that the defender throws: 6-6-6-6-6-6

L M S wrote:No matter how fucking random the dice are or whatever you fucking math tells you the "odds" are.
7 fucking troops SHOULD be able to kill a single EVERY TIME!
this is the issue.
If you think I'm whining, f*ck off.
If you think the math 'supports' a different theory, f*ck off.
If you think someone else must have experienced great dice, it's TRUE.........THE FUCKING DEFENDER DID AND ITS BULLSHIT and he can f*ck off.
I challenge ANYONE to get dice like this and not be pissed off about it. Weather you support the dice the way they are or you think they are fucked up.........THIS WAS FUCKED UP, IT JUST HAPPENED, AND ITS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
7v1 followed by
6v1 followed by
5v1 followed by
4v1 followed by
3v1 followed by
2v1 LOSE ALL
THIS SHOULD NEVER LOSE.
Yet it does, constantly because of the fucked up system.



No wonder Pedro is leaving.
Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy. Rolling the fucked up CC dice makes Jack a dull boy.

I kinda think this has made LMS somewhat agitated!

I think you should tell that to John Rambo

Army of GOD wrote:I don't mean to be "that guy", but a 7 should kill a 1 99.67051261853217% of the time.

Can you the Math to support this?

I don't think it's quite THAT high!

I still don't understand why dice make people mad. They play a game like Risk knowing that luck is inherent to the game, and then get mad when the game isn't deterministic like they think it should be.

I agree with the sentiments in all the above posts.

Maybe should have stoped at 3 vs 1? Happens to everyone. I go full weeks with bad dice it seems.

Metsfanmax wrote:I still don't understand why dice make people mad. They play a game like Risk knowing that luck is inherent to the game, and then get mad when the game isn't deterministic like they think it should be.

I was going to say something a little like this, but this about hits the head on the nail with what I think.

With all the supposedly horrible dice complaints, you always end up going back to the game and playing it. A lot of people, even after making dice complain threads, still renew their premium. I've learned to read these threads with a grain of salt and just accept it as temporary vent.

-rd

frankiebee wrote:Why do people fail to understand that random dice does crazy shit ? There is no pattern, when the defender throws a 6 (1/6 chance) the turn after that the chance that he throws a 6 again is still 1/6.
I.o.w. The chance of the defender throwing: 3-2-3-1-4-1 is the same as the chance that the defender throws: 6-6-6-6-6-6

when the dice are calculated based off radiation from space or whatever i think that a solar flare might upset this no pattern theory

LMS I'm right there with you. I was losing 6 on 1 twice a day minimum. I cut back my active games cause I was getting so pissed about it. It's ridiculous.

Whats funny about this thread is the game hes talking about Game 8433120 he had a drop of 18 + 2 sitting there for a total of 20 troops to kill 22 singles to knock me out. Yet he got down to 3 singles with 7. Sounds to me like he had killer dice & then his luck ran out. LMS even states on Fens wall "sorry man, I thought I was 'bout to pull some magic L M S shit out of the hat".
Pretty sad some cant take a loss with honor.

hotfire wrote:

frankiebee wrote:Why do people fail to understand that random dice does crazy shit ? There is no pattern, when the defender throws a 6 (1/6 chance) the turn after that the chance that he throws a 6 again is still 1/6.
I.o.w. The chance of the defender throwing: 3-2-3-1-4-1 is the same as the chance that the defender throws: 6-6-6-6-6-6

when the dice are calculated based off radiation from space or whatever i think that a solar flare might upset this no pattern theory

Not true, it's generated from atmospheric noise via radio's. Very unlikely that a solar flare would influence it because of the frequency the radio's pick up the noise. And even if it would influence it, it would not change the randomness.
Ill try to explain it with a qoute from random.org

Proponents of random number generators of the quantum variety argue that quantum physics is inherently nondeterministic, whereas systems governed by physics are essentially deterministic. I am personally undecided as to where I stand on the determinism-nondeterminism scale, but for the sake of argument, I will put on my determinist hat and use RANDOM.ORG as an example. You could argue that the atmospheric noise used as a source for the RANDOM.ORG numbers can be viewed as a chaotic but deterministic system. Hence, if you knew enough about the processes that cause atmospheric noise (e.g., thunderstorms) you could potentially predict the numbers generated by RANDOM.ORG. I.o.w. see non random patterns !

However, to do this, you would probably need knowledge of the position and velocity of every single molecule in the planet's weather systems. This is of course infeasible, and the inaccuracy of weather forecasts is a good example of how difficult it is to give even a rough estimate of the behaviour of weather systems. For this reason, it is impractical to predict random numbers from RANDOM.ORG, even for a determinist. A similar case (on a different scale) could be made for random number generators based on lava lamps.

A new dice bitch thread... what a surprise!

New term for having a bad run with the dice, like say losing 7-1.
Dice-Ragging

L M S wrote: 7 fucking troops SHOULD be able to kill a single EVERY TIME!

Short answer: no it shouldn't.

L M S wrote:No matter how fucking random the dice are or whatever you fucking math tells you the "odds" are.
7 fucking troops SHOULD be able to kill a single EVERY TIME!
this is the issue.

You haven't played much Risk on a table, have you?

Woodruff wrote:

L M S wrote:No matter how fucking random the dice are or whatever you fucking math tells you the "odds" are.
7 fucking troops SHOULD be able to kill a single EVERY TIME!
this is the issue.

You haven't played much Risk on a table, have you?

Best answer hands down. Bet those dice were rigged to though wood, damn hasboro

i disagree...that beasty 1 troop showed you who is boss.
Maybe that guy was master chief

mgconstruction wrote:Whats funny about this thread is the game hes talking about Game 8433120 he had a drop of 18 + 2 sitting there for a total of 20 troops to kill 22 singles to knock me out. Yet he got down to 3 singles with 7. Sounds to me like he had killer dice & then his luck ran out. LMS even states on Fens wall "sorry man, I thought I was 'bout to pull some magic L M S shit out of the hat".
Pretty sad some cant take a loss with honor.

Just for the record MG, you guys played a great game and losing that particular game is not the salt in the wound per se...only a catalyst the caused me to vent a bit. I had lost several, mimicking that game, in very recent history and added to that a few margaritas....well you have read the result. There was a reason I left no particular game number nor did I mention anyone in particular. Again I will say in that instance, your team played a great game and won using the hand given to you, no hard feelings from me specifically due to that game.
My vent was a cumulative one.