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Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:12 pm
by ViperOverLord
IcePack wrote:Another question, does anyone care to see the weights? If it falls below 150 it automatically is removed off the list. Is this something most people are really curious to see or can i remove it from the updates?

Let me know,
Ice


I like the weights b/c it basically shows who the most active/inactive clans are in regards to warring.

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:16 pm
by ViperOverLord
I don't understand why there was no points change for MD. If I am interpreting a former post correctly, the two results being added were an 11-1 victory vs. MB and a 53-14 victory vs. YNWA. They're both near the bottom of the rankings, but those are decisive victories. Perhaps less favorable results were also included? Either way, I find it strange to have absolutely no change in the total score when results are coming in.

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:24 pm
by IcePack
ViperOverLord wrote:I don't understand why there was no points change for MD. If I am interpreting a former post correctly, the two results being added were an 11-1 victory vs. MB and a 53-14 victory vs. YNWA. They're both near the bottom of the rankings, but those are decisive victories. Perhaps less favorable results were also included? Either way, I find it strange to have absolutely no change in the total score when results are coming in.


Those two war results were already included, those are over a month old?

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:30 pm
by ViperOverLord
IcePack wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:I don't understand why there was no points change for MD. If I am interpreting a former post correctly, the two results being added were an 11-1 victory vs. MB and a 53-14 victory vs. YNWA. They're both near the bottom of the rankings, but those are decisive victories. Perhaps less favorable results were also included? Either way, I find it strange to have absolutely no change in the total score when results are coming in.


Those two war results were already included, those are over a month old?


You mentioned checking the last six weeks of results. I guess more accurately, you were including the last four weeks of results. So, I see what happened now.

viewtopic.php?f=438&t=174424&start=945

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:42 pm
by IcePack
ViperOverLord wrote:
IcePack wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:I don't understand why there was no points change for MD. If I am interpreting a former post correctly, the two results being added were an 11-1 victory vs. MB and a 53-14 victory vs. YNWA. They're both near the bottom of the rankings, but those are decisive victories. Perhaps less favorable results were also included? Either way, I find it strange to have absolutely no change in the total score when results are coming in.


Those two war results were already included, those are over a month old?


You mentioned checking the last six weeks of results. I guess more accurately, you were including the last four weeks of results. So, I see what happened now.

viewtopic.php?f=438&t=174424&start=945


I posted the last six weeks as a short cut to those who wanted to check for accuracy, since the July 15th update didn't have that edited due to RL.
Both July 1st and July 15th updates were posted, so the point change is comparing to the July 15th update. Meaning, only point changes that occur the last two weeks are marked there.

icepack

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:21 am
by Kinnison
IcePack wrote:Another question, does anyone care to see the weights? If it falls below 150 it automatically is removed off the list. Is this something most people are really curious to see or can i remove it from the updates?

Let me know,
Ice


I quite like seeing the weights on the chart. Please leave it there, unless it's a substantial additional amount of work to compile. ;)

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Update Shortly]

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:02 am
by Qwert
IcePack wrote:
Qwert wrote:
IcePack wrote:
Qwert wrote:
IcePack wrote:Does everyone like the current layout of the scores?

IE:

2 YR Score, then 1 year, then name, then rating?

I do that because the 2 YR SCore is the main score for most people, and wanted it highlighted on the left by boxing it in. but then the 1 yr score is between 2 year and the name. Just want to make sure people dont want 1 yr, 2 yr, then name.

Either way. just curious. Working on this again this morning and double checking all the numbers.

i wonder how will this look,if scores dont have this 1 year and 2 year, and go like in Player scoreboard, who will be in first place?


Im not sure i understand?

i say if scoreboard look like player scoreboard, where scores are not erase after two years of play.


You mean, include all results with no decay?

yes.

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are MYT-TLW not include in this update?

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:55 am
by Keefie
I would love to see the points impact of a result on the list of completed wars that are included in the updates.

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:08 am
by patrickaa317
Keefie wrote:I would love to see the points impact of a result on the list of completed wars that are included in the updates.


That might be tough to really record unless he input one at a time, then recorded the difference. It'd be neat to see but afraid it'd take too much of IP's time.

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:25 pm
by IcePack
patrickaa317 wrote:
Keefie wrote:I would love to see the points impact of a result on the list of completed wars that are included in the updates.


That might be tough to really record unless he input one at a time, then recorded the difference. It'd be neat to see but afraid it'd take too much of IP's time.


Yeah, probably not going to happen. As patrickaa317 indicates, this would take very, very long to do. Not sure its something i can take on.

IcePack

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:36 pm
by Bruceswar
IcePack wrote:Another question, does anyone care to see the weights? If it falls below 150 it automatically is removed off the list. Is this something most people are really curious to see or can i remove it from the updates?

Let me know,
Ice



Keep the weight on there

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:54 pm
by Fewnix
Agreed. Keep the weight on

Bruceswar wrote:
IcePack wrote:Another question, does anyone care to see the weights? If it falls below 150 it automatically is removed off the list. Is this something most people are really curious to see or can i remove it from the updates?

Let me know,
Ice



Keep the weight on there

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:37 am
by IcePack
Alrighty, sounds like the weights a desirable piece of info. I'll keep it :)

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:58 am
by Leehar
IcePack wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
Keefie wrote:I would love to see the points impact of a result on the list of completed wars that are included in the updates.


That might be tough to really record unless he input one at a time, then recorded the difference. It'd be neat to see but afraid it'd take too much of IP's time.


Yeah, probably not going to happen. As patrickaa317 indicates, this would take very, very long to do. Not sure its something i can take on.

IcePack


Would it be something similar to what FD did with Image
?

Do you know how he was able to extract those individual results?

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:49 pm
by Keefie
I don't think so :?

I was thinking more along the lines of:

HH RS 25 16 06/23/13 25

The 25 being the + or - points each clan would receive.

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:43 pm
by Leehar
Keefie wrote:I don't think so :?

I was thinking more along the lines of:

HH RS 25 16 06/23/13 25

The 25 being the + or - points each clan would receive.

+ for one isn't - for the other though?
It has to do with the relative ratings, plus the impact of weight?

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:12 pm
by Genoke
IcePack,

a special thanks for you in name of Atlantis!
to give us a preview of the possible ranking so far. =D> =D>

We likey... :-$

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:50 pm
by IcePack
Genoke wrote:IcePack,

a special thanks for you in name of Atlantis!
to give us a preview of the possible ranking so far. =D> =D>

We likey... :-$


Not a problem, you met the min 1 year weight so i included you on that list. You dont quite meet the 2 year weight requirement, so you won't jump onto the official list for a bit longer.

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:33 am
by Keefie
I must admit it's the use of 'weight' and it's use in calculating ratings that I understand least.

How does it affect the amount of points a clan would gain from winning a war. For instance, HH are about to secure a victory over Retribution, a clan ranked far higher than us. We have a pretty high weight of 996, would the amount of points gained be different if our weight was 500 or 300 etc Similarly would the effect be the same if we had lost ?

Cheers
K

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:14 pm
by Genoke
IcePack wrote:
Genoke wrote:IcePack,

a special thanks for you in name of Atlantis!
to give us a preview of the possible ranking so far. =D> =D>

We likey... :-$


Not a problem, you met the min 1 year weight so i included you on that list. You dont quite meet the 2 year weight requirement, so you won't jump onto the official list for a bit longer.

oh...i thought we had to finish 4 clan wars to jump into the official list....

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:21 pm
by IcePack
Genoke wrote:
IcePack wrote:
Genoke wrote:IcePack,

a special thanks for you in name of Atlantis!
to give us a preview of the possible ranking so far. =D> =D>

We likey... :-$


Not a problem, you met the min 1 year weight so i included you on that list. You dont quite meet the 2 year weight requirement, so you won't jump onto the official list for a bit longer.

oh...i thought we had to finish 4 clan wars to jump into the official list....


The official list that is widely considered the most accurate is the 2 year measure. I've included 1 year with a lower weight just for viewing purposes.
You need 3-4 wars to get onto the 2 Year F400 official list.

IcePack

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:02 pm
by Qwert
i try to find IA-MM 10-6 ?

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:09 pm
by IcePack
Qwert wrote:i try to find IA-MM 10-6 ?


When did it complete

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:36 pm
by Kaiser_Tottenham
Thanks mate for your a great effort

How many games RGX " The Royoal Galaxy " need to appear in the ranks?

We played only 1 game vs TNC

Re: F400 Ranking [Aug 1 Updated!]

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:41 pm
by Swifte
IcePack wrote:
Qwert wrote:i try to find IA-MM 10-6 ?


When did it complete


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