Conquer Club

SoN!c wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:22 pm Lol FP by Devante on that!

I still value the help!

Darin44 wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:32 pm

Ragian wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:05 pm
@Darin, why did you protect the ones you did? Both nights. And do you also protect against poison? In that case, we might have the reason that our poisoner was unsuccessful.

I protect Kingm night 1 because he claimed 50% cop nothing else to go on

Night 2 protect hjelp because I was thanking It would be more help. I figured Charle would be safe almost protected EW

I was suspecting you or loose

You promised not to suspect me this game!

Ragian wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:05 pm f*ck SAKE. I'm away for eight hours, and you're on the brink of lynching someone. Cool your damn jets and unvote Loose. We have LOADS of time, and there's absolutely no reason (as of now) to speed lynch ANYONE!

Unvote Loose Canon

That said, I can definitely see us lynching between Loose and Charle. While Charle seems corroborated by EW - who is as proven as can be - we have no clarification, I think - but you know...memory, that EW enabled Charle...or maybe I just can't remember how that stuff worked.

@hjelp, whom do you suspect the most?

Ragian wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:09 pm Curses! Loose checked Devon N1, so he would indeed have gotten an innocent on him given that Devon was odd night godfather.

@Loose, could you elaborate on your role, please? Why do you get results when Charle doesn't?

Would like to see Loose answer this question.

Also Rag with both cop claims either one is false or I suspect we have a Quack cop role in play

@Ragian

As I see it there are a few things.

- First

SoN!c wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:49 pm CHAOS AGENT:

You’re not with the police. You’re not with the mob.
You’re here to watch the world crack — to push people’s buttons, spread suspicion, and make even the innocent question their own memories.

In noir terms:

A professional interrogator turned rogue.
Maybe ex-FBI, maybe freelance “consultant.”
Maybe a brilliant, manipulative profiler with his own twisted code of ethics
Your methods were too extreme, so they cut you loose… now you play both sides.

“I don’t lie, Detective. I just let you hear the truth you fear most.”

Role Overview

Alignment :Neutral (Independent)
Codename: "Lecter" — A former FBI behavioral analyst turned rogue consultant.
Goal: Survive until the end while ensuring at least one faction loses unfairly (trust collapse, wrongful conviction, or false confession).
Specialty: Psychological manipulation, interrogation mastery, and manufactured evidence.

“Empathy is a scalpel. Use it gently, and the truth bleeds out.”

Strategy

Early Game: Subtly steer interrogations; ask questions that make emotional guilt stand out.

Mid Game: Use Distortion to make an innocent appear deceptive, or swap guilt cards to cloud the Cop’s reads.

Late Game: Drop your Fabricate Evidence bomb right when trust wavers.

Endgame: You win if doubt, not proof, defines the outcome.

Example Role-Play Lines

“Tell me, Officer — do you enjoy confession, or merely the illusion of control it gives you?”

“Guilt is not the same as responsibility. Some of us wear it as fashion.”

“Ah, but if the truth destroys trust, was it ever worth finding?”

This was posted after EW "cleared" halrob64 and Charle. It means that Charle can be Lecter but not Mafia.
Loose Canon now claims Cop. It means that Loose Canon can be Lecter or Mafia.

- Second

Regarding Charle isn't answering who Charle investigated suggests that Charle protects the identy because of a possible Town role the jail keeper. I don't think it's because a Mafia Roleblocker.

Charle wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:46 am Good morning!! My result was "No Result", so either mafia have a blocker, or town has a jail keeper that wanted to save me? ...

With that said, I don't think there is two Town Cop at this monent in the game

With that said, I don't think there are two Town Cop at this monent in the game....

To be clear
I rather vote on Loose Canon since - Mafia or Lecter than vote on Charle since - Town Cop or Lecter.

How can Charle be Lecter?

Didn't extreme verify him as town cop?

Also re Charle, he just didn't get any result n2.
I don't know what to make of that.

I knew I'd be under suspicion for claiming town cop too, but it is what it is.

@ Loose Canon

hjelp wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 2:02 pm @Ragian

As I see it there are a few things.

- First

SoN!c wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:49 pm

Role Overview

Alignment :Neutral (Independent)
Codename: "Lecter" — A former FBI behavioral analyst turned rogue consultant.
...

This was posted after EW "cleared" halrob64 and Charle. It means that Charle can be Lecter but not Mafia.
Loose Canon now claims Cop. It means that Loose Canon can be Lecter or Mafia.
...

@ Loose Canon

hjelp wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 2:02 pm

Regarding Charle isn't answering who Charle investigated suggests that Charle protects the identy because of a possible Town role the jail keeper. I don't think it's because a Mafia Roleblocker.

Charle wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 1:46 am Good morning!! My result was "No Result", so either mafia have a blocker, or town has a jail keeper that wanted to save me? ...

I don't think there are three Cops neither .

I still don't see how Charle could be Lecter.

Am I being slow as well as suspicious?

Fpd by hjelp -

I thought there could be 3 cops when there was Charle me and king/Devon and I had innocent on king/Devon and extreme vouched Charle.

I don't see how I can be strongly suspected of being 3p.

Wouldn't I have voted to lynch Devon?

RE why I didn't say anything D2;

I'd accepted King/Devon was probably innocent
Charle claimed cop - there was no immediate in D2 rush to counterclaim Charle particularly with a 3rd cop claim
Extreme then cleared Charle

RE why Charle got a no result N2;

I don't know except for the obvious that either 2 different factors and/or 2 different players were at play with my innocent result on King/Devon and Charles no result.
Could be 1 player with 2 different disruptive powers/shots I guess.
But Charle as the only claimed innocent cop in D2 would be the obvious player to disrupt by mafia or 3p N2.

There's a lot in other players roles that go towards cop results needing validation - hjelps (claimed) role, Extremes role, Kongs tracker role.

Oh and I investigated King/Devon N1 because being cop and with a seeming odd/even night cop claim out there too - wouldn't you?

@Loose, yes, I would've probably done the exact same thing as you, but you have to admit that it's very convenient that you checked Devon the night he'd come up innocent. In hindsight at least.

@hjelp, the "no result" means that Charle was prohibited from carrying out his investigation. It could mean that he was blocked by someone with malicious intentions, or that he was protected by someone effectively jailing him. The latter could also explain why there was only one death N2, which I think is very important.

If no one protected (by jailing) Charle, we can infer that hjelp was targeted by the poisoner N2 (unless I've overlooked something, which happens, especially in Son!c games). If someone jailed Charle, it might be that Charle was targeted by the poisoner. Answering that question won't lead to the poisoner, but it helps clearing town people, and if we can get a base of 3-4 cleared townsfolk, we can just starve out scum.

@Devante, what did you do last night?

Uhh, the forum has stopped scrolling about. That's nice.

I investigated Ragian, but received a "No Result" back. I assume I was blocked by some kind of reason, or Ragian cannot be investigated?

So for now this is the situation in my eyes:
1. I am Town Cop
2. Halrob is Town (not sure what role but my investigation result was Town and Darin didn't protect me so it is true)
3. Darin Town Doc (Nobody else claimed doc as well)

4. Hjelp seems Townish

5. Loose is Scum or 3P (I cannot believe Sonic would put 2 exactly the same roles in a game with 11 players)

Not sure:
6. Ragian
7. Devante

My suspicion is that there are 1 scum and 1 3P, and those are between Loose, Devante & Ragian.

What I am not sure about is that why 3P didn't get the kill last night - maybe somebody did something to one of my 3 suspects last night that could have blocked him? That would give us the 3P.

LOL...what do I have to do to get some town cred here? I pick out Strike D1 (yes, randomly to get shit going, but surely I wouldn't pick a scummate D1) and I help sway the lynch back onto Devon D2 when some were wavering. What do you want from me, man?

I realise that I could still be 3rd party, but unless you were blocked/jailed, you should've gotten a read on me. I'm in no way immune to investigation.

I also like that you echo exactly what I'm saying about the 3rd party being blocked or otherwise inhibited last night (or that they targeted one of the ones that were protected, which, as it looks right now, would be either you or hjelp).

@Charle, how does not having EW around affect your role?

For instance, your precious, precious cleared town halrob didn't vote Devon.

Charle there are variants of town cop

My cop role seemed pretty bland when I received it from Sonic

I at least am and have been considering whether I am one of the variants - confused cop perhaps?

Also I'm wondering who exactly has been giving me my cop results.

I think it's all up to if we believe in EW or not. It turned out that EW was town and I think EW is right regarding halrob and Charle both.
I rather vote Canon can be Lecter or Mafia.
compare with
Charle can be Lecter but not Mafia, that is Lecter or Town, since EW cleared Charle as Cop Town before Lecter came into play.
Also ,Town need one more Mafia and then Mafia is out (assume one Maifa left), and for me you're a strong suspect being Mafia.

Vote Loose Canon

Of course I now believe in extreme.

How can Charle be Lecter?
I think he has to be town.

Of course I disagree with you voting me.

Are you Lecter?

Ragian wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:59 am LOL...what do I have to do to get some town cred here? I pick out Strike D1 (yes, randomly to get shit going, but surely I wouldn't pick a scummate D1) and I help sway the lynch back onto Devon D2 when some were wavering. What do you want from me, man?

I realise that I could still be 3rd party, but unless you were blocked/jailed, you should've gotten a read on me. I'm in no way immune to investigation.

I also like that you echo exactly what I'm saying about the 3rd party being blocked or otherwise inhibited last night (or that they targeted one of the ones that were protected, which, as it looks right now, would be either you or hjelp).

@Charle, how does not having EW around affect your role?

If doc visit me, then my result will be opposite (if I am not blocked obviously ). If EW would have visited me, then my result would have been correct.

Ragian, so what is your role so by the way? Did you learn something in the past two nights?