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I wanna go out all guns blazing. I think Reg too.

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Vote EW

Pretty soon, the scum will get organised on whatsapp...

This is the last chance in the last chance saloon - from today forward mob number will be in the majority.

Sheesh...what are you on about?

Ragian wrote:Sheesh...what are you on about?

Westvleteren 12?

Extreme Ways wrote:Ok I'm taking the bait: Does your role kill you in N3? Is there more to it than just thinking you'll die?

I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role.

"I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role."... ok you have accepted your death then, why should i not accept either?

SoN!c wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:Ok I'm taking the bait: Does your role kill you in N3? Is there more to it than just thinking you'll die?

I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role.

"I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role."... ok you have accepted your death then, why should i not accept either?

Well, I am not a confirmed townie and Rag is.

What did you say about mafia and drinking again?

Extreme Ways wrote:

SoN!c wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:Ok I'm taking the bait: Does your role kill you in N3? Is there more to it than just thinking you'll die?

I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role.

"I expect Rag to die as confirmed townie with unconfirmed role."... ok you have accepted your death then, why should i not accept either?

Well, I am not a confirmed townie and Rag is.

What did you say about mafia and drinking again?

If your going out, you won't mind a nice drink when its eiter a good wine, a nice whisky or a superb last beer..to do so EW. It's town that doesnt seem to care here. C u

Well if you think you will not survive the night, give us a nice little chummy to scummy list that has more people than just me on it for us to work with.

EWBOP: You are not a confirmed townie, so that definitely helps in surviving.

Extreme Ways wrote:Well if you think you will not survive the night, give us a nice little chummy to scummy list that has more people than just me on it for us to work with.

okay:

chummy to scummy list:

1.EW
2.EW
3.EW
4.EW
5 EW





PS; Traf and Strike too but Traf plays it super like Fusi was playing it. And yes you play it super to. Awesome play dude.

SoN!c wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:Well if you think you will not survive the night, give us a nice little chummy to scummy list that has more people than just me on it for us to work with.

okay:

chummy to scummy list:

1.EW
2.EW
3.EW
4.EW
5 EW





PS; Traf and Strike too but Traf plays it super like Fusi was playing it. And yes you play it super to. Awesome play dude.

So EW is least scummy, most scummy, and also most neutral?

Alright, I think I've had enough at this point.

Unvote, Vote Sonic.

Ok Sonic u do realize u are the one that post like 10 nonsese posts in a row?
If u really are town I am sure dont have any target on ur back if anything mafia should be delighted with you. I dont think I have ever seen a more anti-town playstyle, or at least a more swinging player. You have voted for like half the roster already.
I am not voting you cause I think u are not mafia, but omg.

vote swang I could vote either swang or bax, but bax is more inactive.

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Ok Sonic u do realize u are the one that post like 10 nonsese posts in a row?
If u really are town I am sure dont have any target on ur back if anything mafia should be delighted with you. I dont think I have ever seen a more anti-town playstyle, or at least a more swinging player. You have voted for like half the roster already.
I am not voting you cause I think u are not mafia, but omg.

vote swang I could vote either swang or bax, but bax is more inactive.

don't want to get to far behind so read page 39 first now I will go back to page 35/36

Sonic just confuses me, so I might just vote sonic that might clear thing up for me

Vote Count:

• General Bax : 2 (Ragian, Extreme Ways)
  Extreme Ways : 2 (traffic133, SoN!c)
  swang918 : 2 (Charle, TrafalgarLaw01)
  strike wolf : 1 (swang918)
  Darin44 : 1 (*Pixar*)
  Son!c : 1 (DirtyDishSoap)
  
  No Vote : 4 (Darin44, General Bax, PepeAtila, strike wolf)

13 Alive, 7 votes needed to lynch

*Pixar* wrote:

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Ok, I think Strike story makes sense.

Agreed. Well I don't know where we want to go from here now. We have had 2 decently important roles revealed now. I don't like how Darin has been able to be quiet this game without being replaced just like the others. Would like to hear from him.

unvote vote Darin44

because I can't read that fast up to page 37
was going to vote Strike but got a claim hope to get cot up tomorrow

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Ok Sonic u do realize u are the one that post like 10 nonsese posts in a row?
If u really are town I am sure dont have any target on ur back if anything mafia should be delighted with you. I dont think I have ever seen a more anti-town playstyle, or at least a more swinging player. You have voted for like half the roster already.
I am not voting you cause I think u are not mafia, but omg.

vote swang I could vote either swang or bax, but bax is more inactive.

I agree with your diagnosis, Doctor Traf.

However, why swang. Could you lay out your points on that?

@DDS, stop being like that and get your vote back to where it matters! I don't need you moping about here.

@darin, just ignore the posts that confuse.

Guys, I must be honest, I have been travelling last 2 days and there is too much reading to make a good and sensible analysis. For now I am happy to vote where town needs my vote, so if we decide we want to get a claim/lynch out of Bax, Swang or EW at this stage, I will vote that way when it gets closer.

I must say, having scanned through all the posts and theories, I still cannot make out for sure, looks like we are going around in circles and not get to a point. I would really like to move this forward one step closer to killing some scum. So, who ever is going to be closest to a L-2 position, is going to get my vote in order for us to work together as a team and get closer to the truth.

degaston wrote:Vote Count:

• General Bax : 2 (Ragian, Extreme Ways)
  Extreme Ways : 2 (traffic133, SoN!c)
  swang918 : 2 (Charle, TrafalgarLaw01)
  strike wolf : 1 (swang918)
  Darin44 : 1 (*Pixar*)
  Son!c : 1 (DirtyDishSoap)
  
  No Vote : 4 (Darin44, General Bax, PepeAtila, strike wolf)

13 Alive, 7 votes needed to lynch[/color]

Even if all of us (people no voting yet) vote now it is imposible to lynch ... but we should decide to get information. (Agree with Charle)
Vote swang

From what I understand we have 2 joke votes right now: Sonic on me, and DDS on Sonic. If Sonic wishes to unite town and vote with a confirmed town, that would help.

@DDS, Strike and myself had a moment like this in D2 but you know he's not scum, just not helpful.

I'll get with a nicely updated chumscum list in the next 40 hours.

Extreme Ways wrote: @DDS, Strike and myself had a moment like this in D2 but you know he's not scum, just not helpful.

That moment was under a completely different circumstance where i knew Raz's "claim" was bullshit.

@Rag Yeah, being a mope but holy f*ck is it frustrating. Give it a day and some booze, I'll switch back.

I don't understand how I went up on the grill.

Being pure town all I can say is that it's seems arbitrary and illogical as other actions of the voters.

I see, however, that some of the others have finally heeded my warnings regarding Swang's erratic and dubious behavior.

Vote Swang

General Bax wrote:I don't understand how I went up on the grill.

Being pure town all I can say is that it's seems arbitrary and illogical as other actions of the voters.

I see, however, that some of the others have finally heeded my warnings regarding Swang's erratic and dubious behavior.

Vote Swang

Could you point me to you posting about Swang, please? Thanks

Ragian wrote:

General Bax wrote:I don't understand how I went up on the grill.

Being pure town all I can say is that it's seems arbitrary and illogical as other actions of the voters.

I see, however, that some of the others have finally heeded my warnings regarding Swang's erratic and dubious behavior.

Vote Swang

Could you point me to you posting about Swang, please? Thanks

Not sure how often Bax opens, so answering for him. Bax has 6 posts in total which can all be found via this: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/posti ... &p=5300180

In chronological order

General Bax wrote:

swang918 wrote:Razor is lying about something. Let's break down his claim. His claim has three parts:
1. There is someone whose win condition is to lynch Razor.
2. Razor knows who it is. and
3. Razor is town.
Ok so assume that all three are true aka Razor is telling the truth. That would mean that there is someone who is out to lynch him, a townie. What's that person's alignment? That person can't be town obviously. It's also not scum--doesn't make sense for a single scum to have an individual win condition of killing a specific villager. And also most likely not third party, because if he's 3p then that means we have a townie, Razor, who started the game knowing the identity, alignment, and mission of a 3p--which would be incredibly unfair to the 3p.
Therefore, it's impossible for Razor to be telling the truth about all 3 aspects of his claim.

Now he's probably not making up the whole role out of thin air.

If I had to guess, there are two 3ps, each of whose win condition is to lynch the other. Razor is one. Maybe Ragian for the other.

1. According to this theory, this someone could be you
2. Inevitably, it means you and Raz are coordinated.
3. And you're both scum.

Why shouldn't everyone vote you, just as a precaution?

and another post (he defended Pepe earlier too, this is followup)

General Bax wrote:Now that the late Raz is gone, I would have voted Swang, but I hardly see anyone taking this into consideration.

Voting for Pepe just to rattle the cage is as logical as voting almost anybody else (why not vote Sonic?), so for the time being I'm not taking this bus.

Darin44 wrote:

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Ok Sonic u do realize u are the one that post like 10 nonsese posts in a row?
If u really are town I am sure dont have any target on ur back if anything mafia should be delighted with you. I dont think I have ever seen a more anti-town playstyle, or at least a more swinging player. You have voted for like half the roster already.
I am not voting you cause I think u are not mafia, but omg.

vote swang I could vote either swang or bax, but bax is more inactive.

don't want to get to far behind so read page 39 first now I will go back to page 35/36

Sonic just confuses me, so I might just vote sonic that might clear thing up for me

You know what I'm going do a day by day post analysis on swang to see if it adds up.

Here is my analysis on swang. Day 1 I put swang on my townish list, First he said lynching D1 could be worse for town as there was more chance to lynch a town and we didnt know if mafia could have 2 Night kills. Then he voted me cause he tought I wanted the pixar wagon to continue even tho I said the opposite. Then he vote Loose when he reveled he was voteless, here he said if he can't vote he is suspicius, even tho some of us pointed that voteless was not likely to be mafia. However he seemed concerned about Loose wanting to get claims but I can't blame swang here Loose also played the game in an anti-town way that feeling he was off was kind of everyone's feeling - So D1 I thought he was townish (Maybe the thing that strikes more to me is that he first said it would be worst to lynch D1 but then he was trying to get a lynch on Loose).

Day 2 he was on the thought that doc Charle death was not random as he said that doc Charle had suspected of both Pix and Loose, so he wanted to vote loose for all his nonsense. Then he voted Loose cause tbh he did said a nonsense thing. Then happen the smoke bomb and he got the 0-2-0-2 vote condition of Loose and admited it would be a powerfull ability for mafia. The the Razor thing happened and he made a good analysis of why Razor was lying about being town and knowing the identity of the supposed player that wanted to lynch him. He then said He was gonna bring the heat vs Loose D3 as there was pointless disscussing about loose d2 as he couldnt be lynched (True), Finnaly he voted Raz after we break down his lie, eh said he coul vote Raz or Sonic - SO re reading all swang post D2, He seems townish, the thing that concerns me d2 is Loose saying he knew swang was mafia, but tbh Loose words, even if he was town are not very reliable. he wanted the cop to out himself D2.

D3 he started by saying he believe Pixar claim but did not believe Strike Claim and ollowed Sonic Logic aboud Doc Charle so he veoted Strike (I thought it was not possible for doc Charle to save someone the night he is killed, but apparently its possible, I still find it unlikely tho). Then swang present the 5 points about strike:

swang918 wrote: It's not just that Strike shouldn't have pushed Sonic D2. It's more than that.

1. We know strike visited Sonic N1.
2. We know Doc had reason to protect Sonic N1 (Doc Charle agreeing w sonic and saying he thought Sonic was cop, on D1)
3. We know Sonic didn't die D1, and that only 1 townie died.
4. We know it's possible scum can have 2 kill attempts/night because 2 townies died N2.
5. Therefore, it fits scum had 2 kills D1, that in addition to doc kill, strike tried to kill sonic N1 and failed because of Doc protection.

This is the theory as I put it together. That strike says he visited sonic, knows sonic didn't kill Charle, and still pressed sonic D2 is an addition to the theory that supports it. It's not the main argument.

I don't find the points very strong. And finally he question sonic joke list about EW in a funny way.

So all in all I thought Swang suspicious mainly for his vote for strike and the heavy push he had never done before, but apparently he was gonna do so against Loose. So perhaps its true there is not enough evidence to actully think swang scum, but I feel he has only voted townies so far and Razor.