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Josh could be a good candidate for a shank

*Pixar* wrote:Josh could be a good candidate for a shank

Do you think you might want to switch your vote to Duke so we can get him to claim?

degaston wrote:

*Pixar* wrote:Josh could be a good candidate for a shank

Do you think you might want to switch your vote to Duke so we can get him to claim?

Was going to hold up as many think its scummy/3rd party of me to be voting people just because. But if you're looking for a claim, I'm all for getting a claim out of someone this late in the game!

Vote Duke. How many votes we got? Should be enough at this point I would think. DUKE state yourself before the morning when the day ends!

All I see here is that some people have been working hard to try and make sure we don't get a majority to Lynch. Scum will still get their night kill you know? And let us not forget Pixar who's got the shank.

pershy wrote:still sad we are not lynching Jmac but I do agree it will not give any info as bax didn't. The timing of his vote on hal was definitely scummier than duke's....

Talking of dukes and dunks - DUNK90 is still in this game right? Another silent one? Sheesh!

Dunk seems to pop in periodically to accuse me and then leaves again. Seems to be his only purpose.

Hi Duke, I see you in the thread. Are you going to make a claim?

So is he another halrob, or another bax?

Duke was on again just a moment ago.
We have about 5 hours left, and it doesn't look like he's going to claim. That is not something a town player should do.
Do we still have enough townies left to lynch him? We need two more.

degaston wrote:
So is he another halrob, or another bax?

No, he has a real life and only had a minute to catch up

FP by dega...

give me a fricken minute dude

DukeHazzard wrote:

degaston wrote:
So is he another halrob, or another bax?

No, he has a real life and only had a minute to catch up

FP by dega...

give me a fricken minute dude

Sorry, but you were on and off a couple of times this evening since you were at L-2, and hadn't posted. It didn't look like you were going to, and time is running out for town to make a decision.

degaston wrote:

DukeHazzard wrote:Answer me this question. If I am scum, why would I ask if someone else is scum? I should know all the other scum players, yes? That doesn't make sense to me as a form of logic on your part.

If you are scum, then your actual power may have nothing to do with asking questions of Raz. Since scum cannot tell town from 3rd party, it would be easier to avoid being caught in a lie by saying that you asked if someone was mafia.

And in case you missed it, did you have any reason for saying this:

DukeHazzard wrote:On another note, I have a suspicion that one of the mafia is posing as town. I'm not sure who, but Maxleod, pershy, and Ragian are on that list, in no particular order.

I didn't miss it. I don't see how it matters at this point. No one believes what I'm saying. Especially you. I ALREADY said that I was a noob saying that. I didn't realize that ALL Mafia would be posing as town. I really hate repeating myself. Did I mention that I'm new here? Maybe you didn't catch that. So, I'm a new player in case you haven't caught on yet...

Get it?

FP again by dega

So everyone wants me to claim. You wanted Pix and JMac to claim a day ago and they ignored it. Altho I think that Pix pretty much has said everything two or three times at least and still everyone keeps asking him. What are you going to believe anyway? You want me to say I'm town? Sure. Not that you believe it. My abilities are as I have said so many times already. I ask Raz a question every night in a yes/no format. If yes, I get to ask a day question. If no, then not. The only thing I haven't revealed is the title of my character. So I ask questions... my title is Questioner

GIBBERISH

pershy wrote:still sad we are not lynching Jmac but I do agree it will not give any info as bax didn't. The timing of his vote on hal was definitely scummier than duke's....

Talking of dukes and dunks - DUNK90 is still in this game right? Another silent one? Sheesh!

I haven't been exactly silent. But I'm not added a ton either. I eluded to the that fact in my earlier posts. I've been reading and have been convinced to change my vote to Duke. Makes more sense, info wise. I still think Pixar is scum, but will hold my vote on him till another time

UNVOTE PIXAR VOTE DUKEHAZZARD

Dukasaur wrote:

pershy wrote:still sad we are not lynching Jmac but I do agree it will not give any info as bax didn't. The timing of his vote on hal was definitely scummier than duke's....

Talking of dukes and dunks - DUNK90 is still in this game right? Another silent one? Sheesh!

Dunk seems to pop in periodically to accuse me and then leaves again. Seems to be his only purpose.

What have I exactly accused you of lately? Nothing today.......

I still think it is a terrible idea to let Pixar run around with a shank unchecked. Any of us could fall victim. (especially me)

DukeHazzard wrote:my title is Questioner

Thank you. That was better than the guys who just disappeared. Though to me, that roll still sounds too powerful to be true.

Nothing personal, but I still think town is better off if we lynch you and find out if this is the truth, than if we have a No Lynch.

I guess we'll see what happens.

degaston wrote:

DukeHazzard wrote:my title is Questioner

Thank you. That was better than the guys who just disappeared. Though to me, that roll still sounds too powerful to be true.

Nothing personal, but I still think town is better off if we lynch you and find out if this is the truth, than if we have a No Lynch.

I guess we'll see what happens.

So what you're saying is that you're not comfortable with a townie having a powerful rule. Good to know.

Maxleod wrote:

degaston wrote:

DukeHazzard wrote:my title is Questioner

Thank you. That was better than the guys who just disappeared. Though to me, that roll still sounds too powerful to be true.

Nothing personal, but I still think town is better off if we lynch you and find out if this is the truth, than if we have a No Lynch.

I guess we'll see what happens.

So what you're saying is that you're not comfortable with a townie having a powerful rule. Good to know.

Do you have some proof that he's town that you haven't shared with the rest of us?
Are you going to believe whatever he says, even though he's admitted to lying?
If he says that you're mafia, should we lynch you?

degaston wrote:

Maxleod wrote:

degaston wrote:

DukeHazzard wrote:my title is Questioner

Thank you. That was better than the guys who just disappeared. Though to me, that roll still sounds too powerful to be true.

Nothing personal, but I still think town is better off if we lynch you and find out if this is the truth, than if we have a No Lynch.

I guess we'll see what happens.

So what you're saying is that you're not comfortable with a townie having a powerful rule. Good to know.

Do you have some proof that he's town that you haven't shared with the rest of us?
Are you going to believe whatever he says, even though he's admitted to lying?
If he says that you're mafia, should we lynch you?

What I'm saying is that according to you there are only two options:

Lynch a player who has claimed (townie and powerful rule) -> detrimental to town
No lynch ->also detrimental to town.

You also did a good job starting another wagon when we already had other viable scum suspects, and now we're at a standstill.

Not to mention that you're apparantely are an experienced player and you targeted a total noob who couldn't come up with a good defense until he claimed.

That stinks scummy.

I needed to say that because scum will probably come at me again tonight, so yeah good chance I'll be dead tomorrow, unless I'm protected again.

Scum won't target you a) if they targeted you last night and failed and b) as long as you're accusing everyone for everything all the time. Scum benefits from irrationality.

Maxleod wrote:What I'm saying is that according to you there are only two options:

Lynch a player who has claimed (townie and powerful rule) -> detrimental to town
No lynch ->also detrimental to town.

You also did a good job starting another wagon when we already had other viable scum suspects, and now we're at a standstill.

Not to mention that you're apparantely are an experienced player and you targeted a total noob who couldn't come up with a good defense until he claimed.

That stinks scummy.

I needed to say that because scum will probably come at me again tonight, so yeah good chance I'll be dead tomorrow, unless I'm protected again.

I didn't "target" him because he was inexperienced. I targeted him because there were things about his claims that didn't make sense. It turns out I was right and he was lying. That's what I try to do when I'm town - catch scum in a lie. Maybe he was only lying because he was inexperienced, but that doesn't matter now because there's no way to tell when he's not lying. If he had already identified someone as scum, then we could have lynched them to determine if he was telling the truth and hurting the scum. But how can we verify him if he's only been able to identify non-scum? That's something that scum already know.

I agree that there are two options now: Lynch Duke, or No Lynch
But you left out some details:

• If he flips town, then we have confirmed three players who are not scum. I explained earlier why that is good for town, and worth losing a town player for.
• If he flips scum, then we've eliminated another scum, which is also good for town.
• If he flips 3rd party, then we'll have to see what kind of 3rd party he is, but it's generally not bad for town. (though I don't think this is likely)
• If we don't lynch, then we gain no knowledge, and tomorrow may be a repeat of today, only with fewer townies. This is bad for town.

If you think I'm wrong about any of this, please explain why.
You can choose between what's better for town, or what's worse. If you're town, then choose carefully.

degaston wrote:

DukeHazzard wrote:my title is Questioner

Thank you. That was better than the guys who just disappeared. Though to me, that roll still sounds too powerful to be true.

Nothing personal, but I still think town is better off if we lynch you and find out if this is the truth, than if we have a No Lynch.

I guess we'll see what happens.

I don't know that's it's powerful or not...

And obviously I didn't know how to properly use it.

Too bad I won't get a chance to use it tomorrow...

Ragian wrote:Scum won't target you a) if they targeted you last night and failed and b) as long as you're accusing everyone for everything all the time. Scum benefits from irrationality.

(whispers)We couldn't kill him the first time, we shall not waste another nightkill attempt on him, let's discredit him instead, (whispers)

If I die, what's left of town, again here is my scummy list:

-*Pixar* (could be 3rd party
-Ragian
-Dukasaur
-TheJmac

-maybe degaston. Probably not, we just happen to disagree. But he started a third wagon and put a lot of work in it and now we're deadlocked.

One person who can't be scum because that wouldn't make any sense(killed a scum day 1, even though I find that extremely reckless from an experienced player,hence suspicious, scum wouldn't do that) : fusi

One more thing:

dega, I'm 99% sure that if lynched Duke will turn out to be Town, so instead of lynching him let's just assume he's Town, and we have not three but four people confirmed not scum. Including a very powerful towny (Duke)