[Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

stringybeany · Post by **stringybeany** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:48 am

Very nice job!

In case no one has yet mentioned (very long thread), "oxon" is still listed as "oxfordshire" in the xml.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:35 am

stringybeany wrote:Very nice job!

In case no one has yet mentioned (very long thread), "oxon" is still listed as "oxfordshire" in the xml.

Thats the intention

niMic · Post by **niMic** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:01 am

Honestly, I preferred the old British Isles.

_big_easy_ · Post by **_big_easy_** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:44 pm

Why Revamp a map that had nothing wrong with it?

Jesus, guys, you don't have to constantly fool with EVERYTHING.

And you wonder why you're losing members....

RjBeals · Post by **RjBeals** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:46 pm

_big_easy_ wrote:Why Revamp a map that had nothing wrong with it?

Jesus, guys, you don't have to constantly fool with EVERYTHING.

And you wonder why you're losing members....

I think overall more users like the revamp over the original. There's the nostalgia thing to get over, but the old one got many many complaints on how hard it was to tell borders.

_big_easy_ · Post by **_big_easy_** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:09 pm

RjBeals wrote:
_big_easy_ wrote:Why Revamp a map that had nothing wrong with it?

Jesus, guys, you don't have to constantly fool with EVERYTHING.

And you wonder why you're losing members....

I think overall more users like the revamp over the original.

I think the Man in the Moon will come down and sing me a song if I just dance harder for him. But that doesn't make it so.
Only British Isles game I'm in right now is a 6 player game, and 4 of us have already commented on not liking the change.
The other two haven't chatted since the change took place. That's a 66.666% disapproval rating so far.

There's the nostalgia thing to get over, but the old one got many many complaints on how hard it was to tell borders.

There's already an easy fix to that, clicking "Larger Map".....

LED ZEPPELINER · Post by **LED ZEPPELINER** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:13 pm

honestly, when i first started playing the revamp i was like "AWESOME" but then there were the bugs and i didn't like it but now i really like it

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:49 pm

LED ZEPPELINER wrote:honestly, when i first started playing the revamp i was like "AWESOME" but then there were the bugs and i didn't like it but now i really like it

You have to read the key…bottom left corner.

.44

lgoasklucyl · Post by **lgoasklucyl** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:35 am

Not that it matters all that much- but I would just like to phone my two cents in and say that I love how the map looks now. British Isles was the first map I learned after Classic and it therefore remains in my top three maps of all time. Though I didn't have a problem with the other version, I love the new version in every way. Not until I saw this work of art did I realize how outdated and messy the original truly was.

Thanks for making one of my favorite maps even better

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:24 pm

lgoasklucyl wrote:Not that it matters all that much- but I would just like to phone my two cents in and say that I love how the map looks now. British Isles was the first map I learned after Classic and it therefore remains in my top three maps of all time. Though I didn't have a problem with the other version, I love the new version in every way. Not until I saw this work of art did I realize how outdated and messy the original truly was.

Thanks for making one of my favorite maps even better

And comments like this make this all the worth while. Thanks lgoasklucyl!

rtgs · Post by **rtgs** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:27 pm

The new British isles map is not good for me.

The colors are worse than the ORIGINAL British isles (too pale for my taste),
The names are changed and harder to remember,
The boundaries of the territories are more fragmented,...

Maybe everything is more correct and more technically better, but ...

... I URGE YOU TO RETURN THE ORIGINAL MAP

saaimen · Post by **saaimen** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:40 am

rtgs wrote:The new British isles map is not good for me.

The colors are worse than the ORIGINAL British isles (too pale for my taste),
The names are changed and harder to remember,
The boundaries of the territories are more fragmented,...

Maybe everything is more correct and more technically better, but ...

... I URGE YOU TO RETURN THE ORIGINAL MAP

I hate it when people post things like this. They shouldn't. Maybe this topic can be closed?
The revamp is really, really good, gimil. Thank you, well done.

_big_easy_ · Post by **_big_easy_** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:20 am

saaimen wrote:
rtgs wrote:The new British isles map is not good for me.

The colors are worse than the ORIGINAL British isles (too pale for my taste),
The names are changed and harder to remember,
The boundaries of the territories are more fragmented,...

Maybe everything is more correct and more technically better, but ...

... I URGE YOU TO RETURN THE ORIGINAL MAP

I hate it when people post things like this. They shouldn't. Maybe this topic can be closed?
The revamp is really, really good, gimil. Thank you, well done.

Yeah, how dare someone have an opinion that differs from yours. What arrogance!

danfrank · Post by **danfrank** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:24 am

_big_easy_ wrote:
saaimen wrote:
rtgs wrote:The new British isles map is not good for me.

The colors are worse than the ORIGINAL British isles (too pale for my taste),
The names are changed and harder to remember,
The boundaries of the territories are more fragmented,...

Maybe everything is more correct and more technically better, but ...

... I URGE YOU TO RETURN THE ORIGINAL MAP

I hate it when people post things like this. They shouldn't. Maybe this topic can be closed?
The revamp is really, really good, gimil. Thank you, well done.

Yeah, how dare someone have an opinion that differs from yours. What arrogance!

I have to agree.. They have ruined the british isle map and next there going to destroy the germany map..

saaimen · Post by **saaimen** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:11 am

_big_easy_ wrote:Yeah, how dare someone have an opinion that differs from yours. What arrogance!

It's got nothing to do with arrogance. It's all about respect.
gimil has been on this revamp for over a year. The topic has been here for the whole time aswell. And the map wasn't quenched before all discussions were cleared up. If he hates this map so bad, first of all he should have come here to comment on the drafts. And now that it's quenched he's too late and pissed about it. That's not the way to go.
I don't mind people having a different opinion. But you could come here and say

Perfect CC'er wrote:gimil, I know you've been working hard on this map, and I respect your work. But in fact, I liked the old map better.

That's a whole other thing than

rtgs wrote:... I URGE YOU TO RETURN THE ORIGINAL MAP

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:50 pm

_big_easy_ wrote:Why Revamp a map that had nothing wrong with it?

Jesus, guys, you don't have to constantly fool with EVERYTHING.

And you wonder why you're losing members....

Mainly because the original map was a geographical nightmare full of mistakes.

C.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:51 pm

yeti_c wrote:
_big_easy_ wrote:Why Revamp a map that had nothing wrong with it?

Jesus, guys, you don't have to constantly fool with EVERYTHING.

And you wonder why you're losing members....

Mainly because the original map was a geographical nightmare full of mistakes.

C.

And because the original artist wanted it revamped.

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:44 pm

Would it help people if the territory name for Oxfordshire was renamed to something like 'Oxon (Oxfordshire)' in the XML?

saaimen · Post by **saaimen** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:01 pm

I believe we're too easy on folks

Why can't they just read the legends? Same here as in Europa as in practically every Foundry thread I've been following...

midor · Post by **midor** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:06 pm

ManBungalow · Post by **ManBungalow** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:09 pm

They're not typos; the abbeviations are explained in the legend. I agree that the name in the drop-down list should come up as "Oxon/Oxfordshire" to make it clearer.

This should probably be moved to the foundry discussion or merged with the discussion thread.

obliterationX · Post by **obliterationX** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:12 pm

ManBungalow wrote:I agree that the name in the drop-down list should come up as "Oxen/Oxfordshire" to make it clearer.

It's not "Oxen" (it's Oxon, CLICK HERE for more info), but I think the abbreviations are fine as they are to be honest. If people can't be bothered to read the map legend when they're playing CC they shouldn't be playing at all.

midor · Post by **midor** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:33 pm

obliterationX · Post by **obliterationX** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:36 pm

midor wrote:It's a new version of a map that already existed. In other words something familiar with new info. So, yes, I did not read the legend because I'd played it many times before as I didn't realize that there was that change.

How about an apology for that insult.

Stop being so defensive.

I was talking in general - if people don't read the legends before they play a map it's their fault. I didn't click this topic with some preset knowledge that this happened to you. :-$

You didn't mention in the topic that you made this mistake, so how was my "insult" aimed at you?

midor · Post by **midor** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:46 pm

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