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Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:34 pm
by Devante
Alright, I think there are a few too many "confirmed" townies here. There are a few things not quite adding up for me with some of the claims but whether roles are being kept hidden for towns benefit or simply wolves in hiding with elaborate ruses, I'm not quite sure yet. What I will agree with is Thors play is serving up as more of a distraction than anything else. I don't think he's a wolf, could be wrong of course but if anything, I'm leaning towards him being a 3rd party role possibly. Not sure if there's a role that would benefit from just creating chaos or doubt but not one that I can see would have a winning objective by playing this way. At worse he is town playing horribly as town. Or wolf with some power role that can lash back when killed or is protecting a stronger wolf. Regardless, I will not waste a pardon here, again assuming I live through the night. So, with that in mind;

VOTE THOR

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:08 pm
by Ewebasher
Devante wrote:What I will agree with is Thors play is serving up as more of a distraction than anything else. I don't think he's a wolf, could be wrong of course but if anything, I'm leaning towards him being a 3rd party role possibly. Not sure if there's a role that would benefit from just creating chaos or doubt but not one that I can see would have a winning objective by playing this way.
I know he's not a wolf and even I was tempted to vote for him... ](*,)

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:33 pm
by Ragian
Could we get a vote count, please? I lost track and am on my phone here. Shite work day. I miss EW!

I agree that it makes more sense to figure out thor and ewe. I'm really baffled by thor 's latest input. Rip is a poor choice or words, but hell doesn't make sense for a wolf... Maybe I'm over analysing that.

@Vot, I just needed clarification on Traf use of "victim". No details to be spilled. Dead end.

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:04 pm
by TrafalgarLaw01
With 10 allowed to vote it takes 6 for a lynch

Vote Count:

Thor: 5 Votes - Pixar, Sonic, Votanic, Dev
Pixar: 1 Vote - Swang
Swang: 1 Vote - Ewe

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:11 pm
by Thor60
Hahahahaha, this is so deadly
Vote Swang

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:13 pm
by Devante
I'm at a loss for words at this point.

UNVOTE

My vote will come back but want us to have a few minutes here before one more vote cements it

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:21 pm
by *Pixar*
I have no idea what he's trying to do lol

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:22 pm
by Thor60
As he raises his head to say to all......
Now look into my eyes for the first time. What do you see, do you see death? Or life, if you kill me as a wolf I shall come back and haunt you. Do you see life, I will protect your life here and in your afterlife.
Do as you may, but remember their will be actions for the destiny you chose.

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:23 pm
by degaston
I can't examine the latest developments until this evening (EST), so I'm not going to vote yet.
I'm hoping people don't lynch before that.

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:23 pm
by Devante
Dundie award for craziest posts incoming...

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:24 pm
by Devante
I'd like one more unvote made so there's no accidental lynch made. Need to mull over that last post. Pixar if you would be so kind to remove yours

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:26 pm
by Devante
Third player my guess earlier making more sense, maybe angel. Gotta read the rules again but no time for a couple hours. someone unvote plz

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:39 pm
by Ewebasher
If he's the Angel then Traf's done another modification as in the rules the Angel only wins if he gets eliminated first by either the village or wolves and resorts to a Simple Villager if not...

Piper is another possibility but doesn't fit with the random nonsense being spouted.

Wasn't aware of Traf splitting us into 2 groups so Prejudiced Manipulator is out (and surely he'd have to have been more involved in chat to work towards his aim)

Wild Child? Still doesn't really fit...

Or wolf and I'm full of shit but I know that's not the case...

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:45 pm
by *Pixar*
unvote Thor

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:09 pm
by Votanic
Thor60 wrote:Hahahahaha, this is so deadly
Vote Swang
Unvote ...for now.

There are two rational possibilities for your behavior, Thor.
1.You are a Third-Party, maybe the Angel or something like that?
2. You are wolf who wants to get lynched to protect a more important wolf, maybe Pixar with two votes?

Though of course assuming all crazy play is really rational and beneficial for a player's team or alignment can screw one up worse than anything.

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:30 pm
by Ragian
Thor60 wrote:As he raises his head to say to all......
Now look into my eyes for the first time. What do you see, do you see death? Or life, if you kill me as a wolf I shall come back and haunt you. Do you see life, I will protect your life here and in your afterlife.
Do as you may, but remember their will be actions for the destiny you chose.
What the...?

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:05 pm
by Votanic
Votanic wrote:
Thor60 wrote:Hahahahaha, this is so deadly
Vote Swang
Unvote ...for now.

There are two rational possibilities for your behavior, Thor.
1.You are a Third-Party, maybe the Angel or something like that?
2. You are wolf who wants to get lynched to protect a more important wolf, maybe Pixar with two votes?

Though of course assuming all crazy play is really rational and beneficial for a player's team or alignment can screw one up worse than anything.
Here is another rational possibility:
Thor is a modified form of the Prejudiced Manipulator.
He is not a Wolf, but he wins if the Wolves Win. He himself doesn't even need to be alive at the end of the game to win.
If this is the case, then we are back to choosing between Pixar and swang.

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:25 pm
by Votanic
Also a minor point about the Bear Tamer role, as described by Ewebasher.
If Ewebasher had played his role on the first day he would have got intel on Sonic and mpolo, ...not Thor60.
Actually mpolo and Loose Canon had to both be removed before Thor60 becomes available as an intel target.
However, player list order exactly follows sign-up order, and roles are random so I guess there is nothing to see here... but it is interesting.

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:46 pm
by SoN!c
Unvote

Pfffffff


What the hell???

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:51 pm
by Votanic
SoN!c wrote:Unvote

Pfffffff


What the hell???
What do you think about my Prejudiced Manipulator hypothesis?

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:12 pm
by swang918
We can always go with the simplest explanation for Thor which is, he’s a wolf (or bad town) who’s about to be lynched so he just decides to post some nonsense for the f*ck of it, because who cares?

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:30 pm
by Votanic
swang918 wrote:We can always go with the simplest explanation for Thor which is, he’s a wolf (or bad town) who’s about to be lynched so he just decides to post some nonsense for the f*ck of it, because who cares?
Maybe.. does this fit his meta-M.O. in other games?

But as we both know, if Thor is a Wolf, then Ewebasher is a wolf... but a wolf-aligned Townie is different. By reading as Town, he doesn't incriminate Ewebasher.

One Wolf (3 possibilities)
Pixar; swang918; or Ewebasher
Two Wolves (3 possibilities)
Pixar & swang918; Pixar & Ewebasher; swang918 & Ewebasher
Three Wolves (3 possibilities)
Pixar, swang918, & Ewebasher; Pixar, Ewebasher, & Thor60; swang918, Ewebasher, & Thor60
Four Wolves (1 possibility, and admittedly less likely)
Pixar, swang918, Ewebasher, & Thor60

Just because Thor wants to get lynched doesn't mean he is the best choice...
But we do need to get another Bandwagon going...
Vote swang918

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:53 pm
by Devante
Modified wild child could work along with piper, but modified manipulator or angel makes the most sense. Wording makes it sound like angel. Is it possible a combination of both roles. Hmmm...either smartest or dumbest game post, but which is it

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:11 pm
by Votanic
Devante wrote:Modified wild child could work along with piper, but modified manipulator or angel makes the most sense. Wording makes it sound like angel. Is it possible a combination of both roles. Hmmm...either smartest or dumbest game post, but which is it
I don't know either... and I am conscious of the pitfalls of trying to concoct a customize hypothesis to fit the evidence... but still.

At this point, I am hoping Dega can protect you tonight and you will will have one more Seering opportunity...

Here are few plans to choose from: (God, Mafia is ruthless...)
1. Today we lynch Pixar (because of his double vote). Tonight you seer swang. Tomorrow, depending on what you find, we either lynch swang or Ewebasher.

2. Today we lynch swang (because of the wolf-barber theory). Tonight you seer Pixar. Tomorrow, depending on what you find, we either lynch Pixar or Ewebasher.

3. Today we lynch Ewebasher (because it will also clear Thor). Tonight you seer Pixar or swang, and Tomorrow, depending on what you find...you get the idea.

Why am I now leaving Thor off as Today's lynch possibility?

Frankly, I'm beginning to like the anti-town Third Party ideas about him... and Town doesn't usually need to kill loner, anti-town Third Parties to win, just wolves...
Though who knows, maybe Traf wrote it up differently this time.

Re: The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Day 4

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:34 pm
by Devante
Curious what EW thinks, surprising he's been staying off the radar so much