Conquer Club

I still agree with the people saying to keep gt alive, for exactly the reasons stated, we can use him to help us. If he doesn't decide to play nice and help he gets lynched the next day phase, he can only make one kill a night, personally I'd say it's worth the chance of losing one person (assumable 'town') if he does double cross us when he's far more likely to hit scum with any kill he makes.

And I do agree with Skittles, LSU does look slightly scummy pushing the lynch of gt so hard. I think for LSU though it's more of a case of 'old school logic' (lynch the killers that aren't on your side) then scumminess that motivates him but nonetheless, FOS: LSU.

And now I'm not so convinced on the Fir lynch as he has come and started posting again, we've got nothing more then MM's word against Fir's. However the pros to his lynch could be confirming MM's role/story (ie, knowing who we can trust) but I'm not gonna vote on it yet.

Unvote, vote: mandalorian I'll join you Fir for lack of something more productive to do at the moment.

Hey, my computer broke down, so until I can get a new one, i'll only be able to post on weekdays (at school). I couldn't post since Thursday b/c of holidays.

CrabNebula wrote:

Fircoal wrote:

CrabNebula wrote:

Fircoal wrote:Actually it would be quite odd for me to be a part of the Pikachu clan but alas I'm not. I'm a jailkeeper, I get to block and protect someone. I decided to go after Nag both nights, for a couple of reasons. 1) He complains about dying quickly every game so I decided that I could protect him at a good price. 2) He's one of the only people who I know is in the game. Anyway, I'll tell you this, I'm defiantly not in the Pikachu Clan.

Since you have claimed, how about giving us your name?

But I have. You just didn't read close enough.

Sorry don't have microscopic view, so you will have to point it our yourself?!

And the bolded part means you admit you are in some clan, eh?

Actually why should I. Who is the one that wants to know obviously you. I've gaven the anwser somewhere and it's up to you to find it.

and not nessaraly, it just means I'm not in the Pikachu Clan. Nothing more, nothing less.

And saying it again makes a difference how? Seems you don't have a fake claim ready xD

kalishnikov wrote:Unvote, vote: mandalorian I'll join you Fir for lack of something more productive to do at the moment.

BAD idea! didn't MM say that he had investigated mandy the night before he investigated Fir and got as not belonging to any clan? As in town?

OS Kalishnikov and Fircoal for voting mandy

If I recall MM said mando just wasn't a member of a faction, doesn't necessarily make him town, but regardless we're not trying to get him lynched, just a vote for fun so he doesn't get lonely. When a target presents itself I'm going to immediately unvote, not trying to start a wagon or anything, and Fir ALWAYS votes mando, usually many many times in a game.

nagerous wrote:Serbia, did you not even read my post....


There is no point in lynching someone who can effectively act as a pro-town vig from the weakest faction...


What is with you guys????????????

If tonka gets lynched and not fircoal then it will be a travesty.

Nag, the the less NK's there is at Night, the more control the Town has on the killing (via lynch).

Also, it is pretty certain that Fircoal is going to be lynched. However, it makes no difference if he gets lynched Today or Tommorow. On the other hand, if Tonka is killed Today, there will be one less NK.

The way your perception of Tonka as a pro-Town killer could come true, would be if he agreed to NK by popular request (we would need a separate vote count for that). In this case, we could lynch Tonka after the first Night he misses his mark (to protect the Town from Tonka's dissobediance. On the other hand, I really don't see why would Tonka agree to this, if he is realy the last of the Spamelotians).

HOWEVER, you are forgeting that Tonka's memebership in Spamelot is not a fact but mearly his claim. After the Night in which he killed Spurgistan of the Flamers(as he claimed first, before he denied it ), the relationship between the Flamers and the Landgrab have deteriorated from 'Enemies' to 'Worst Enemies'. The main reason why I am sticking with the Tonka lynch is: he is our best shot for nailing one of the Landgrabers (who have so far suffered no losses, a fact that should be changed IMO )

Fircoal wrote:

CrabNebula wrote:

Fircoal wrote:Actually it would be quite odd for me to be a part of the Pikachu clan but alas I'm not. I'm a jailkeeper, I get to block and protect someone. I decided to go after Nag both nights, for a couple of reasons. 1) He complains about dying quickly every game so I decided that I could protect him at a good price. 2) He's one of the only people who I know is in the game. Anyway, I'll tell you this, I'm defiantly not in the Pikachu Clan.

Since you have claimed, how about giving us your name?

But I have. You just didn't read close enough.

Are you refering to the quoted post or one of the previous ones, Pika?

kalishnikov wrote:I still agree with the people saying to keep gt alive, for exactly the reasons stated, we can use him to help us. If he doesn't decide to play nice and help he gets lynched the next day phase, he can only make one kill a night, personally I'd say it's worth the chance of losing one person (assumable 'town') if he does double cross us when he's far more likely to hit scum with any kill he makes.

And I do agree with Skittles, LSU does look slightly scummy pushing the lynch of gt so hard. I think for LSU though it's more of a case of 'old school logic' (lynch the killers that aren't on your side) then scumminess that motivates him but nonetheless, FOS: LSU.

And now I'm not so convinced on the Fir lynch as he has come and started posting again, we've got nothing more then MM's word against Fir's. However the pros to his lynch could be confirming MM's role/story (ie, knowing who we can trust) but I'm not gonna vote on it yet.

Unvote, vote: mandalorian I'll join you Fir for lack of something more productive to do at the moment.

I am real saddened by the fact that the first 76 pages haven't supplied any leads that are good enough for you to start being productive, Kalish. Oh, I know what could help - actualy reading all the posts, rather then just the last two pages.

[quote="kalishnikov"]If I recall MM said mando just wasn't a member of a faction, doesn't necessarily make him town[quote]
Ach. This fool somehow managed to reverse what I said!
I got him as town, which in turn proves he isn't part of a clan. Happy?

Minister Masket wrote:

kalishnikov wrote:If I recall MM said mando just wasn't a member of a faction, doesn't necessarily make him town

Ach. This fool somehow managed to reverse what I said!
I got him as town, which in turn proves he isn't part of a clan. Happy?

EBWOP. Flargle.

mandalorian2298 wrote:

nagerous wrote:Serbia, did you not even read my post....


There is no point in lynching someone who can effectively act as a pro-town vig from the weakest faction...


What is with you guys????????????

If tonka gets lynched and not fircoal then it will be a travesty.

Nag, the the less NK's there is at Night, the more control the Town has on the killing (via lynch).

Also, it is pretty certain that Fircoal is going to be lynched. However, it makes no difference if he gets lynched Today or Tommorow. On the other hand, if Tonka is killed Today, there will be one less NK.

The way your perception of Tonka as a pro-Town killer could come true, would be if he agreed to NK by popular request (we would need a separate vote count for that). In this case, we could lynch Tonka after the first Night he misses his mark (to protect the Town from Tonka's dissobediance. On the other hand, I really don't see why would Tonka agree to this, if he is realy the last of the Spamelotians).

HOWEVER, you are forgeting that Tonka's memebership in Spamelot is not a fact but mearly his claim. After the Night in which he killed Spurgistan of the Flamers(as he claimed first, before he denied it ), the relationship between the Flamers and the Landgrab have deteriorated from 'Enemies' to 'Worst Enemies'. The main reason why I am sticking with the Tonka lynch is: he is our best shot for nailing one of the Landgrabers (who have so far suffered no losses, a fact that should be changed IMO )

Fircoal wrote:

CrabNebula wrote:

Fircoal wrote:Actually it would be quite odd for me to be a part of the Pikachu clan but alas I'm not. I'm a jailkeeper, I get to block and protect someone. I decided to go after Nag both nights, for a couple of reasons. 1) He complains about dying quickly every game so I decided that I could protect him at a good price. 2) He's one of the only people who I know is in the game. Anyway, I'll tell you this, I'm defiantly not in the Pikachu Clan.

Since you have claimed, how about giving us your name?

But I have. You just didn't read close enough.

Are you refering to the quoted post or one of the previous ones, Pika?

kalishnikov wrote:I still agree with the people saying to keep gt alive, for exactly the reasons stated, we can use him to help us. If he doesn't decide to play nice and help he gets lynched the next day phase, he can only make one kill a night, personally I'd say it's worth the chance of losing one person (assumable 'town') if he does double cross us when he's far more likely to hit scum with any kill he makes.

And I do agree with Skittles, LSU does look slightly scummy pushing the lynch of gt so hard. I think for LSU though it's more of a case of 'old school logic' (lynch the killers that aren't on your side) then scumminess that motivates him but nonetheless, FOS: LSU.

And now I'm not so convinced on the Fir lynch as he has come and started posting again, we've got nothing more then MM's word against Fir's. However the pros to his lynch could be confirming MM's role/story (ie, knowing who we can trust) but I'm not gonna vote on it yet.

Unvote, vote: mandalorian I'll join you Fir for lack of something more productive to do at the moment.

I am real saddened by the fact that the first 76 pages haven't supplied any leads that are good enough for you to start being productive, Kalish. Oh, I know what could help - actualy reading all the posts, rather then just the last two pages.

It can be in any post Mandy, I'm not telling you what, but there is no limitations besides the game thread.

Also I agree with you on Tonka, while it seems sincere that Tonka is Spamalot, there is still a chance for him to be Landgrab, as you said. And if so he's dangerous.

BUT you're still scum.

Unvote Vote: Tonka

One thing you forgot Mandy is that gt claimed hecter who is spamalot and has not been countered. You could argue that no scum faction would counterclaim, but his claim makes sense with his mistake that he did on Night 1, PMing the real hecter (which has been confirmed by Iliad). So his claim fits in with the scheme of things and which is why I believe Fircoal or LSU are better lynch candidates than gt who could help the town if not by persuasion then by force. After all he wants to live too...

I think it's rather obvious what's going on here, LSU and Mando are cleary dirty scum. Filthy landgrab dirty scum

Then again, Mando is a crazy bastard, he's probably trying to kill GT for the attention or something. You don't have to try so hard Mando, we all still love you, okay?

Now LSU on the other hand... yup, he's scum.

Unvote vote LSU

FIRTH HAS REPLACED WILLIS


Carry on

Skoffin wrote: I LIKE BIG LETTERS!

and I cannot lie

I reread the ENTIRE THREAD looking for Fircoal posts.

In conclusion, I have decided that he is most likely Skittles! from Esoog.
Logic is a little shakey, but comes from a post way back on pg. 20 in whic Fir makes a rather ambiguous mention of the name "Skittles!"
Taken at face value, it probably should be seen as talking about the skittles! actually playing in the game.

However, as I said, I went through the ENTIRE THREAD and it was the best lead I saw.




OK, just wrote all of the above, and realized that militant(skittles!(CC Cop(Esoog))) was killed a while ago.

That leaves us with virtually no leads, and as I said I scoured the entire thread for Fir posts.



Skoffin: Yes I do like big letters :lol:

Confirm
Re-reading now.

I wonder who is me?

Anyway, firth was your ban removed or something?

Skittles! wrote:Actually Minister Masket is saying he's Pikachu...

Bah. Masket. Crab. It's all the same.

Skittles! wrote:I actually think this is quite stupid and I'm on the side of not lynching Tonka. Tonka may be part of a scum group, but a scum group that is against another scum group to win (duh?). Possibly we can use Tonka, if someone (hopefully town doc or something) can protect him each night to make a kill, as it's a high chance of hitting other scum.

True. However, keep in mind that Tonka's objective is to kill everyone, not just the competition. Since the rest of his faction is apparently dead, he'll function more like a SK than a Vig. He may be an enforced Town ally now, but you can be he'll be doing his damndest to collect a win on his own.

I can see why some people want to keep him alive, but I can also see a lot of risk in doing that.

Neutrino wrote:

Skittles! wrote:Actually Minister Masket is saying he's Pikachu...

Bah. Masket. Crab. It's all the same.

Skittles! wrote:I actually think this is quite stupid and I'm on the side of not lynching Tonka. Tonka may be part of a scum group, but a scum group that is against another scum group to win (duh?). Possibly we can use Tonka, if someone (hopefully town doc or something) can protect him each night to make a kill, as it's a high chance of hitting other scum.

True. However, keep in mind that Tonka's objective is to kill everyone, not just the competition. Since the rest of his faction is apparently dead, he'll function more like a SK than a Vig. He may be an enforced Town ally now, but you can be he'll be doing his damndest to collect a win on his own.

I can see why some people want to keep him alive, but I can also see a lot of risk in doing that.

Aye, there is a risk that he will be actually working for his own agenda. BUT we'll (town, and most likely other factions) will lynch him if he does that.

My view

I think Fircoal, LSU and Neut are memberes of factions.
MM and GT definately are.

And the part I was dying to say when re-reading..
GT is Vincent M FFS. Why else would he pm hecter? This also tells usthat Each faction has 4 members or GT is a really good liar. But why would he jepordize his position in the game by breaking the rules just to avoid suspiscion?

Also, I am town. Not a part of any faction.

Correct, but some people either do not want to understand or they choose not to. At this point gt would hurt more a faction than town.