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Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:02 pm**

finger of suspicion

basically Im suspicious of you but dont wanna vote

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:38 pm**

Vote Count

animorpherv1 (4) - Stroop, derfderf34, dunc_2007, mpjh
derfderf34 (2) - Sierra_Leon, animorpherv1
Minister Masket (1) - ace1217
mpjh (1) - cena-rules
Stroop (1) - /

Not Voting (3) - Minister Masket, LSU Tiger Josh, Drench

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:17 pm**

cena-rules wrote:What about the 2 that voted after him? seems to me that you are trying to wagon him after SL voted him as well

I'm not wagoning. I agree with what she said, and actually said something after, that I hope proves my point.
[/quote="cena-rules"]
Also allignments are RANDOM[/quote]
I'll give you this. But wouldn't you think the power is useless in a mafia group?

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:23 pm**

OK, I just don't think your argument adds any weight to whether you are a townie. So I don't see why you are making the argument again when it is already cited as a reason for vote to lynch you. Seems a lot like a mistake.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:35 pm**

animorpherv1 wrote:
cena-rules wrote:What about the 2 that voted after him? seems to me that you are trying to wagon him after SL voted him as well

I'm not wagoning. I agree with what she said, and actually said something after, that I hope proves my point.
[/quote="cena-rules"]
Also allignments are RANDOM

I'll give you this. But wouldn't you think the power is useless in a mafia group?[/quote]

doesnt matter, all the allignments are random.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:48 pm**

The fact is this. If animo is mafia, he must be lynched. If he's town or 3rd party, the mafia won't target him anyway, since they know he's bulletproof.

So at best, he's a vanilla townie. I'd rather risk losing him than any other role here.

Vote animo

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:18 pm**

animorpherv1 wrote:
cena-rules wrote:What about the 2 that voted after him? seems to me that you are trying to wagon him after SL voted him as well

I'm not wagoning. I agree with what she said, and actually said something after, that I hope proves my point.
cena-rules wrote:Also allignments are RANDOM

I'll give you this. But wouldn't you think the power is useless in a mafia group?

Even if your power would be 'useless' in a mafia group, it doesn't make you any less likely to be scum. Attempting to clear yourself, and then bandwagonning/revenge voting derf? My vote stands.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:18 pm**

Bulletproof mafia would be useful...against a SK.

Unvote, for now.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:19 pm**

animorpherv1 wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:hey i guess we can all bandwagon ani and have half of us accused as scum for bandwagoning
unvote vote ani
it has already been decided that lynching will have nothing to do with your role

Yes, half of us, or just you of course.

Unvote, vote derfderf34.

As I was saying, if it was 1 shot bp, etc. then bolt would have put it on. I think I am compleltly bulletproof. If not, could bolt PM right away.

unvote vote:derfderf34

for attempting to bandwagon me.

i hate the way im always singled out of a crowd

and anyways the way you are making it out to be then it is impossible to lynch anyone sinceyou need to bandwagon to get enough votes and it has already been decided that day 1 no lynches are bad

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:21 pm**

/ wrote:Bulletproof mafia would be useful...against a SK.
Unvote, for now.

according to bolt you werent voting or not voting :-k

well i guess now you definitely aren't voting

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:24 pm**

derfderf34 wrote:according to bolt you werent voting or not voting

That has been fixed to make the previous votecount accurate.

Posted: **Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:11 pm**

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:55 am**

No hammers please. There's plenty more to discuss before we end the day. For instance, are we going to force everyone to claim what they did with their night-action tomorrow? And if we do, how will we decide in which order people share their results? Or will we allow people to keep quiet about what they did at night and only share their results if they think that catches a scum or clears a townie?

Personally, I'm all in favor of everyone with a night-action sharing their results. Scum may need to lie about their night-actions, and this way, they can only lie one night at a time, which is harder than making up some actions for all previous nights later on in the game. For deciding the order, I suggest we let whoever is about to get lynched decide the order. If he turns up town (or SK), we follow that order the next day. If he turns up mafia, we just use the popcorn method - meaning whoever claimed last gets to pick the next person to share their results.
The only exceptions are mpjh and /. mpjh should only share who he gave his items to after they've had a chance to use those items, meaning he shares his actions from 2 nights ago instead of last night (and whoever got the item doesn't have to claim it until he used it). / doesn't need to say whether he commuted or not, unless people targeted him and the town finds it important to know whether or not those actions failed or not.

Minister Masket wrote:So at best, he's a vanilla townie. I'd rather risk losing him than any other role here.

Vote animo

Stop voting using someone's role as an excuse.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:52 am**

of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:35 am**

If the hammer comes down, I think everyone should share what they did/learned during the night in the order picked by the lynched guy, unless such person is a mafia in which case we should use the popcorn method that Sierra described.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:11 am**

Sierra_Leon wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:So at best, he's a vanilla townie. I'd rather risk losing him than any other role here.

Vote animo

Stop voting using someone's role as an excuse.

It isn't an excuse, it's a risk.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:27 am**

derfderf34 wrote:of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum

Actually, I only see one objection to bringing the hammer down.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:32 pm**

mpjh wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum

Actually, I only see one objection to bringing the hammer down.

If you guys lynch me, your wasting a role that will make it too the end. So, you guys will lose sooner.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:07 pm**

Guys don't hammer until closer to deadline. SL had a good point with it in regards how to follow claims etc..

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:49 pm**

animorpherv1 wrote:
mpjh wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum

Actually, I only see one objection to bringing the hammer down.

If you guys lynch me, your wasting a role that will make it too the end. So, you guys will lose sooner.

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! People knew your role when they voted you. Pointing it out to them is not helping your case at all. Trying to use your role to defend yourself is just as bad as using someone's role as an excuse to vote for him.

Still, I don't think animorph is scum. The case on Derfderf looks much more interesting.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:19 pm**

Sierra_Leon wrote:
animorpherv1 wrote:
mpjh wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum

Actually, I only see one objection to bringing the hammer down.

If you guys lynch me, your wasting a role that will make it too the end. So, you guys will lose sooner.

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! People knew your role when they voted you. Pointing it out to them is not helping your case at all. Trying to use your role to defend yourself is just as bad as using someone's role as an excuse to vote for him.

Still, I don't think animorph is scum. The case on Derfderf looks much more interesting.

what have i done that is scummy
and he said that we will lose becuase he dies does he know something that we dont?

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:45 pm**

animorpherv1 wrote:
mpjh wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum

Actually, I only see one objection to bringing the hammer down.

If you guys lynch me, your wasting a role that will make it too the end. So, you guys will lose sooner.

Yes, but if you're mafia/SK, we don't want you to make it to the end.

Sierra_Leon wrote:Still, I don't think animorph is scum. The case on Derfderf looks much more interesting.

Really? I don't see why you find him scummy...is it this comment?

derfderf34 wrote:of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum

Posted: **Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:47 am**

No, I first became suspicious of him when he attacked mpjh.

derfderf34 wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:@derfderf: where is mpjh acting scummy?

he is pushing for a no lynch

and he is trying to defend himself by saying that we shouldn't lynch him because he has a power role

This looks like he's trying to get an easy lynch in on the new guy.

Then he jumped to the top of my scum-list with his vote on animorph.

derfderf34 wrote:hey i guess we can all bandwagon ani and have half of us accused as scum for bandwagoning
unvote vote ani
it has already been decided that lynching will have nothing to do with your role

He literally voted saying it was a bandwagon vote, giving no good reason for voting at all, and encouraged others to follow his example. Hello?

Posted: **Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:01 am**

Sierra_Leon wrote:No, I first became suspicious of him when he attacked mpjh.
derfderf34 wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:@derfderf: where is mpjh acting scummy?

he is pushing for a no lynch

and he is trying to defend himself by saying that we shouldn't lynch him because he has a power role

This looks like he's trying to get an easy lynch in on the new guy.

Then he jumped to the top of my scum-list with his vote on animorph.
derfderf34 wrote:hey i guess we can all bandwagon ani and have half of us accused as scum for bandwagoning
unvote vote ani
it has already been decided that lynching will have nothing to do with your role

He literally voted saying it was a bandwagon vote, giving no good reason for voting at all, and encouraged others to follow his example. Hello?

it is day 1 the only way to get a lynch is to bandwagon

Posted: **Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:08 am**

derfderf wrote:it is day 1 the only way to get a lynch is to bandwagon

That doesn't mean jump on the first one you see without any reason. SL, I see where you are coming from.

Oh yes, and Unvote. I will decide on to vote on later...likely derf or ani.

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