Conquer Club

heavycola wrote:Hey right wing assholes, look around you and try and keep pretending that small government works. This is all your fault. The 'market' is a human invention, like nuclear bombs. I realise that's a poor analogy for the more 2nd amendment-happy crowd, so i'll try another analogy... it's a function of human behaviour, like incest or line dancing. This time please leave government, regulation and in fact everything else to the people with a clue. k tks.

Ditocoaf wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Frigidus wrote:I still don't get it. Everyone makes such a fuss over a few dead babies. Who cares? Babies are so stupid, they can barely move or think when they're born, and since they aren't sentient they're open to being killed, sort of like deer and puppies. As an aside, I think that we (the US) owe a lot to the minorities we've discriminated against (whether it be slavery, mass murder, or simple prejudice), and that whatever comes out of the current economic turmoil we need to hang onto social security and affirmative action. There are hardly words that can describe the debt we owe non-whites in this country.

Seriously, go stand in front of a train. Or in the freeway. Or walk off of a bridge.

There is no, repeat, no excuse for your behavior.

So, if I said that all women should be legally obliged to give birth (c-sections don't count) to no fewer than three children by the time they reach the age of 22, would you bestow upon me the privilege of driving that train?

Iliad wrote:You know what we should we stop killing? The trees and animals. In fact I say all developed countries should immediately logging forests or hunting any kind of animals. Developing countries such as India and China should be able to continue to do so until they tell us that they are in fact developed.

Frigidus wrote:

Iliad wrote:You know what we should we stop killing? The trees and animals. In fact I say all developed countries should immediately logging forests or hunting any kind of animals. Developing countries such as India and China should be able to continue to do so until they tell us that they are in fact developed.

That sounds a little inefficient. Maybe we could let the United Nations decide who gets to log and hunt.

Iliad wrote:

Frigidus wrote:

Iliad wrote:You know what we should we stop killing? The trees and animals. In fact I say all developed countries should immediately logging forests or hunting any kind of animals. Developing countries such as India and China should be able to continue to do so until they tell us that they are in fact developed.

That sounds a little inefficient. Maybe we could let the United Nations decide who gets to log and hunt.

That would be a good idea. And that doesn't look to do much in retrospect. Maybe it should be made illegal for developed countries to get oil. We really should just use renewable resources

Nickbaldwin wrote:You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

heavycola wrote:Hey right wing assholes, look around you and try and keep pretending that small government works. This is all your fault.

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

comic boy wrote:Dead babies make great door stops .....Obviously you need to resin them first.

Neoteny wrote:

comic boy wrote:Dead babies make great door stops .....Obviously you need to resin them first.

That would ruin their soup potential, however, so one must balance one's priorities.

luns101 wrote:

heavycola wrote:Hey right wing assholes, look around you and try and keep pretending that small government works. This is all your fault.

I love ya to death, cola...but that's just not true.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... =permalink

Admitedly, there were those on the right involved in banking/financial institutions which went along with the leftist government manipulation of sound lending principles.

Paragraph #7 is most telling

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

Frigidus wrote:I still don't get it. Everyone makes such a fuss over a few dead babies. Who cares? Babies are so stupid, they can barely move or think when they're born, and since they aren't sentient they're open to being killed, sort of like deer and puppies. As an aside, I think that we (the US) owe a lot to the minorities we've discriminated against (whether it be slavery, mass murder, or simple prejudice), and that whatever comes out of the current economic turmoil we need to hang onto social security and affirmative action. There are hardly words that can describe the debt we owe non-whites in this country.

Nickbaldwin wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

Thor Son of Olaf wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

You need to understand his mindset: babies have not "lived", meaning that they have not had the chance to expericence life. It is unfair, to him (especially that late in development, when they are for all intents and purposes, human beings. Newly born or still in the womb, it is the same), that they should be denied that right. And since this other guy is advocating it, he is a monster equal to Hitler in JR's eyes. Joking does not excuse the man from this at all.

Understand?

Thor Son of Olaf wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

You need to understand his mindset: babies have not "lived", meaning that they have not had the chance to expericence life. It is unfair, to him (especially that late in development, when they are for all intents and purposes, human beings. Newly born or still in the womb, it is the same), that they should be denied that right. And since this other guy is advocating it, he is a monster equal to Hitler in JR's eyes. Joking does not excuse the man from this at all.

Understand?

Ditocoaf wrote:

Thor Son of Olaf wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Nickbaldwin wrote:You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?

Because he has, or rather, is living a life and unborn have yet to live (they are alive, but they have not "lived", saavy?) and nobody ought to joke about babies dying. Nobody. I do not care who says it, it is just plain wrong. Period, end of discussion.

It is, to some extent, admirible that you would defend someone against a perceived belligerant. However, I cannot commend you for your choice in "client" as it were.

If murder is appalling, equally so should partial-birth abortion be. Normally, I'd say all abortion is wrong save in the gravest of cases, but destroying fetuses is unthinkably monsterious.

So Fridge has no excuse. None what so ever. I don't care if he was joking, I do not find it funny. It's like laughing at holocaust survivors, it's just not cool.

Understand?

No, I do not understand.

You have waffled your way around the point.

The point is, you are telling someone to die. If that person died, just because you wanted them to, how many people would that affect? Friends, family, colleagues.

So I'll say it again. How is killing a fetus before it is "alive" (you said yourself, it is not yet alive in the human sense) any worse than killing a fully grown adult, presumably with a job, family, friends etc.

You need to understand his mindset: babies have not "lived", meaning that they have not had the chance to expericence life. It is unfair, to him (especially that late in development, when they are for all intents and purposes, human beings. Newly born or still in the womb, it is the same), that they should be denied that right. And since this other guy is advocating it, he is a monster equal to Hitler in JR's eyes. Joking does not excuse the man from this at all.

Understand?

My god, another one of you who doesn't get it? At first I was happy that this thread was going as planned, but now I'm unsettled by how well its working... and what's worse, I have a bad feeling that people will continue to attempt to argue that baby-killing is bad, even after this post of mine! Ugh, I've had enough of this. Time to go rape a few more 12-year-old girls to take the stress off...

Frigidus wrote:Hey, that's just tasteless.