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Re: Petition against Ratings!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:18 am
by JoshyBoy
GoVegan wrote:Wow an admitted multi.
Hunters anyone?
Wtf? How can I put this in a language that you will understand? I only play with one account!!!!!!
My old account is dead! hello?!?!?!?!? how thick are some folk... seriously...
Re: Petition against Ratings!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:10 pm
by DukeToshiro
I'd vote for either one of the two options.
1. Scrap ratings and use the old Feedback system we all loved!
2. Create a hybrid where you can rate stars AND leave feedback!
attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:54 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
again, i got another 3 for attendance by Genghis_Khan and a 3 for attitude. So I look at the game to try and figure out why I would have received such a low rating. I see nothing typed in game chat by me indicating nothing wrong with my attitude. I see I made every turn. Than I see in game chat that his team was complaining about missed turns on their own team. So I look at the players rating that missed a turn ( Aquarium) and what do you know, he left that player a 3 star as well.
So I guess me missing no turns has the same rating as a player missing turns. Seriously, this needs to be looked at.
I have another player that left me 1 star for attendance...again no missed turn. Now how does this get fixed? Can I fill out an e-ticket?
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:58 pm
by ParadiceCity9
We share the same problems, JR.
Like my rating from Eigidansei
He gave me 1 for fair play, 3 for attendance, and 1 for attitude.
We were playing a freestyle 1 on 1 games (non speed) and I had to go and he PMed me 'take your turn or go f*ck yourself.' I don't remember what i responded. So I took my turn when i could. then later in the game chat I said:
2008-06-09 20:03:17 - ParadiceCity9: hey man, I think we got off to the wrong start
2008-06-09 20:03:22 - ParadiceCity9: how bout we put that PM fiasco behind us
He had no response...so like wtf.
edit: also the one in my thread still tryin to figure this one out...
makes no sense
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:00 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
the 1 vs 1 freemiums are going to be the biggest problems.
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:01 pm
by ParadiceCity9
I just think there should be moderation for the ratings. that's all
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:04 pm
by owenshooter
ParadiceCity9 wrote:We share the same problems, JR.
Like my rating from Eigidansei
He gave me 1 for fair play, 3 for attendance, and 1 for attitude.
We were playing a freestyle 1 on 1 games (non speed) and I had to go and he PMed me 'take your turn or go f*ck yourself.' I don't remember what i responded. So I took my turn when i could. then later in the game chat I said:
2008-06-09 20:03:17 - ParadiceCity9: hey man, I think we got off to the wrong start
2008-06-09 20:03:22 - ParadiceCity9: how bout we put that PM fiasco behind us
He had no response...so like wtf.
paradice... sigh... (*more than slightly amused by your plight* ) PM the guy and ask what he was thinking, already put that in your thread about this... just try to figure out what he was thinking, and if you are that upset, ask him to withdraw it. i mean, i'm sure if someone asked you to do the same, you would (ahem...).
JR, i agree with you fully... people are basing their decisions on what they feel is a good rating and it may not be what you think is a good rating. i just had a guy ask me to remove the 5's and one 4 i left him. he thought it was a "horrible" rating... ok... i withdrew it. at least with feedback, there was something tangible to understand why they left what they left... with this system, you have to PM them and hope they respond... however, i do believe you can submit an e-ticket. i believe i read that somewhere...-0
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:07 pm
by ParadiceCity9
How bout implement something that allows us to comment on why we rated?
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:08 pm
by happy2seeyou
I got a one for attendance when I never missed a turn... wtf?
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:09 pm
by ParadiceCity9
happy2seeyou wrote:I got a one for attendance when I never missed a turn... wtf?
Same except mine was a 2 and a 3...wtf?
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:12 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
whats next, I get a 2 because the site was down yesterday and I should have played my moves faster ? and FYI- I still dint miss a turn.
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:34 pm
by nmhunate
I also got a one in attendance and i didn't miss one turn... in fact I took the turns on time, right away!
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:09 pm
by foregone
owenshooter wrote:ParadiceCity9 wrote:We share the same problems, JR.
Like my rating from Eigidansei
He gave me 1 for fair play, 3 for attendance, and 1 for attitude.
We were playing a freestyle 1 on 1 games (non speed) and I had to go and he PMed me 'take your turn or go f*ck yourself.' I don't remember what i responded. So I took my turn when i could. then later in the game chat I said:
2008-06-09 20:03:17 - ParadiceCity9: hey man, I think we got off to the wrong start
2008-06-09 20:03:22 - ParadiceCity9: how bout we put that PM fiasco behind us
He had no response...so like wtf.
paradice... sigh... (*more than slightly amused by your plight* ) PM the guy and ask what he was thinking, already put that in your thread about this... just try to figure out what he was thinking, and if you are that upset, ask him to withdraw it. i mean, i'm sure if someone asked you to do the same, you would (ahem...).
OMG, people acting like human beings!! Don't be ridiculous owen!
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:07 pm
by owenshooter
foregone wrote:OMG, people acting like human beings!! Don't be ridiculous owen!
in only 18 posts, you have become my favorite person on CC... ha!!-0
Re: Petition against Ratings!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:43 pm
by what,me worry?
JoshyBoy wrote:GoVegan wrote:Wow an admitted multi.
Hunters anyone?
Wtf? How can I put this in a language that you will understand? I only play with one account!!!!!!
My old account is dead! hello?!?!?!?!? how thick are some folk... seriously...
So you have two accounts........ do the math. rules are you can only have one. where's FP when you need him. lol
And im not signing either. although i agree with a hybrid.
Re: Petition against Ratings!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:05 pm
by Protozoan
I hate this new rating system. It is far to subjective and vague to be of any use. I liked the old system but would be perfectly fine with a hybrid that lets you leave comments. Also note this is my first post. My dislike of this rating system has prompted me to break my silence.
Re: Petition against Ratings!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:20 pm
by sunmachines
I'll sign it. I played one game under the new system and got three stars for attendance where I missed no turns. I also received three stars for attitude in which no one said a word the whole game. If you miss no turns your attendance rating should be 5! If you never say anything how can you have "an attitude?" Ridiculous.
Re: Petition against Ratings!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:53 pm
by wcaclimbing
I like the rating system just how it is.
Stars make it much more simple for me, feedback was too much work.
So, sign me up for the "don't change the system again, I like the ratings and want them to stay exactly as they are" petition, if there is such a thing.
Abusing new Rating System
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:12 am
by Theguyoverthere
I love the new rating system, but unfortunately some people are abusing it terribly. If they don't like you, they will give you 1 star in everything, even if you had perfect attendance or played fairly or even if you kept a good attitude!
Take a look at this game. 2664127 I expect I'm going to get all 1 star from this guy simply because I disagreed with his "strategy" of using clickable maps to snipe people faster than their computer could load the page! He's giving me 1 star in attendance, why? I have no idea. 1 star in fair play why? No idea. I played fair the whole time... more fair than him anyway. I would accept maybe a 3 or 4 star in Attitude (even though I think I kept my cool pretty well.)
Is there going to be any attempts to stop this abuse?
Re: Abusing new Rating System
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:32 am
by rocky mountain
people abused the old system too, but at least you could tell easier when it was nonsense, or when it was real. if you have a lot of ratings though, and they're all good except for this one guy, it won't bring your average down too much, and people can tell how you are in those aspects if everyone else gave you a 4 or 5, then he gives you a 1. people can usually. tell. once more ratings get given, this will mean about as much as 50+ and 1- in the old feedback. i wouldn't think too much of it.
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:34 am
by ParadiceCity9
Just got another...bs rating
straight 1 stars by btown80. Found nothing to deserve them.
edit: I had beaten him every time we played so i have a feeling that's why i got the ratings...
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:45 am
by BaldAdonis
I've been giving 1s to everyone who I think is a "number 1" player. You guys should be pleased with your ratings.
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:51 am
by icedagger
Lol I got a 1 for attendance from Klobber.. despite him saying it was suspicious that I was taking my turns quickly
Here? I guess there's just no hope for some people..
Edit: Looks like he's giving new recruits who don't take a single turn 5 stars for attendence too.. I don't think it's the system that's the problem though, just morons who abuse it.
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:58 am
by PLAYER57832
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:again, i got another 3 for attendance by Genghis_Khan and a 3 for attitude. So I look at the game to try and figure out why I would have received such a low rating. I see nothing typed in game chat by me indicating nothing wrong with my attitude. I see I made every turn. Than I see in game chat that his team was complaining about missed turns on their own team. So I look at the players rating that missed a turn ( Aquarium) and what do you know, he left that player a 3 star as well.
So I guess me missing no turns has the same rating as a player missing turns. Seriously, this needs to be looked at.
I have another player that left me 1 star for attendance...again no missed turn. Now how does this get fixed? Can I fill out an e-ticket?
If you play lots of games, one poorer rating should not really matter. If it bothers you, put the person on your ignore list.
I don't like the current system, but there is no way to really and truly eliminate subjectivity as long as it is people's opinion. Moderatng them really does not solve it, because then you are really just substituting the mods/ juries' opinions for the person who left the rating. That person may just have a different opinion.
straight attendance could be automated, but as for the rest.. we can't really look at moderation as the answer. Instead, we need a way to know how someone is rating ...
Re: attendance rating- more info to add
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:05 am
by yeti_c
I wonder what I'll be getting in the 3 or so games where I "missed" a turn - i.e. the server didn't bother giving me a turn!!
C.