Conquer Club

yeti_c wrote:

croco wrote:I do like the idea of addressing people by name. However, now that I have more experience in CC I see that being a bit of an issue. People are still going to use color names and it would be hard to sort this out in the software.

Perhaps a better, and very easy, solution would be to simply change the colors so that they are more colorblind friendly. Get rid of red and start with g,b,y,p. That simple change would allow most colorbinds to play up to 4 person games without issue. After those 4, make it as colorblind friendly as possible but even just moving red from 1 to 8 in your color profile would help a ton. Could use white and black as colors as well.

White is currently used for Neutrals.

Black armies were denied as they aren't visible on a lot of maps.

The problem is - we use 9 different colours for the army counts as it is - and they are as far apart as they can possibly be on the spectrums.

i.e. the colours are a tweaked version of
White FFFFFF (I didn't colour this one)
Red FF0000
Green 00FF00
Blue 0000FF
Yellow FFFF00
Pink FF00FF
Cyan 00FFFF
Black 000000 (We use a tweaked black to a grey)

Then one had to be chosen in the middle of the ranges - and an orange seemed to be the best fit...
Orange FF8800

As you can see - the first 8 colours are as far apart as they can possibly be (based on hex values).

I know this doesn't help you being Colourblind though... but if we removed Red - we'd then have to have another "mid range" colour - and the majority of people here would find it harder to distinguish who is who.

The other mid range colours could be...

FF0088
00FF88
0088FF
8800FF
888888

As you can see (although I appreciate you may not be able to) - these colours are too similar to the other colours... hence the choice of Orange.

(I know there have been complaints from some that Grey and Green are too close too each other too)

C.

targetman377 wrote:so cant you make a color skem where only the person picks any color and it only shows up on there map? and then on other peoples maps it shows up the usally color execept the on the color that they chose could this work?

• Instead of having to join games in a certain order, or having to wait for the team before yours to join, you can just join in the correct slot.

• It could look a little something like this?
  [bigimg]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk273/lanyards/gamejoin.jpg[/bigimg]

• For team tourny games, you don't have to wait for the other team to join.
• This allows you to pick which color you want your armies to be.
• Probably other improvisations of the site that I'm not thinking of.

blakebowling wrote:Already on the To-Do list (clicky)

lanyards wrote:

blakebowling wrote:Already on the To-Do list (clicky)

This suggestion is more the way of how it could be done. Joining by slots.

--lanyards

blakebowling wrote:

lanyards wrote:

blakebowling wrote:Already on the To-Do list (clicky)

This suggestion is more the way of how it could be done. Joining by slots.

--lanyards

Since it hasn't been done yet, this should probabally be in the suggestion thread.

hecter wrote:No, this is the suggestion forum. He means you should have just posted it in the thread.

MrBenn wrote:There isn't a thread for suggestions???

In any case, this is a good suggestion, and a good way of implementing it...

InsomniaRed wrote:I agree! I really like it. Never again will I be stuck as pink!!! If this could be worked out, I say go for it! Seems like it would be nice to have!

MrBenn wrote:

hecter wrote:No, this is the suggestion forum. He means you should have just posted it in the thread.

There isn't a thread for suggestions???

In any case, this is a good suggestion, and a good way of implementing it...

chipv wrote:The separate suggestion for choosing your colours might be combined with this one perhaps.
So remove the link between colour and order in player list by allowing joining players to select from remaining colours.

yeti_c wrote:

chipv wrote:The separate suggestion for choosing your colours might be combined with this one perhaps.
So remove the link between colour and order in player list by allowing joining players to select from remaining colours.

Actually - I think choosing your colour independant of position would confuse matters a lot more.

At the moment everyone knows the order and groupings of the teams without having to really check... allowing people to move them around would make this aspect of the game harder and less desirable - thus increasing teammate attacks etc.

C.

chipv wrote:

yeti_c wrote:

chipv wrote:The separate suggestion for choosing your colours might be combined with this one perhaps.
So remove the link between colour and order in player list by allowing joining players to select from remaining colours.

Actually - I think choosing your colour independant of position would confuse matters a lot more.

At the moment everyone knows the order and groupings of the teams without having to really check... allowing people to move them around would make this aspect of the game harder and less desirable - thus increasing teammate attacks etc.

C.

Then that reduces your choice of colours for team games as described above.
Removing the choice on the basis that people are used to fixed colours goes against being able to choose your colours freely, a suggestion which I believe you already supported?

So you have free choice for singles games but not team games if that feels right. Up to you.

yeti_c wrote:

targetman377 wrote:so cant you make a color skem where only the person picks any color and it only shows up on there map? and then on other peoples maps it shows up the usally color execept the on the color that they chose could this work?

At the moment the Army numbers are generated as an overlaid image - this image is created by the server. I'm pretty sure that once an image is created - it is cached so that it only ever has to create this image once - and then sent out as many times as it's requested.

Changing it so that everyone and anyone can choose their own colours would probably stress the server a lot more than currently.
(Note not just upto 8 (players) times as much - as normal people can come and view your games with their settings)

The only way this could work is to change the way the army numbers are generated - i.e. remove them from an image overlay and place them as text on screen... (kindof similar to how BOB displays hovers) however - that could cause a lot of code generation that Lack doesn't want to run either - similarly stressing the servers more.

ok i got it thank you for explaining that for me.

Also using that technique can have flaws - as if you change text size etc in your browser that could throw out the alignment and so such.

C.

i create a 3 player game, and choose blue for my color

next person who wants to join sees longboreder and the 5 remaining color spaces. say they like red, they click "join red"

windowmere wrote:As it is the letters (r4, g5 etc) is helpful, but isn't enough for my colourblindness, so I try to play yellow, blue or whatever c stands for - this means it's very rare I start a game, because it would put me at an disadvantage. With this change I would be less limited on which games I can join, and it wouldn't make a difference if someone dropped out before me.
(I know there is a colourblindness add-on, but that forces people on to firefox, which some people aren't keen on. I prefer Opera, so "get a real browser" isn't helpful advice)

• Everybody remembers playing Risk as a kid with their little brother, who unwaveringly threw a temper tantrum when he didn't get to play as Red. Well guess what, I'm that little brother!!

• When joining a game, I think players should have the option to select what color they would like to play as. I think this would improve team games, and reduce the number of multiple games being started.

• This would greatly reduce the number of multiple games being started for the following reasons.
• I am almost always in 4 doubles games at a time. I play with ScatAttack, and we always start our own games so we can be red and green. While this might seem petty, it makes glancing at a map easier when you are used to being the same color.
• when playing doubles as, say, blue, I frequently get confused, think I'm red - and attack my team mate. After hundreds of games as Red, it's hard to switch your brain to identifying with a different color.
• There are frequently games open that we could join. Classic Art, Flat Rate, 2v2 doubles for example, is very common. However, to avoid confusion and to insure we are always the colors we're used to, we will start a new one and play that rather than join one someone else already has.
• Though there would be times when our colors are already taken, they would be far less than they are now if we could chose what color we wanted to play as, and the number of multiple games being started would greatly decrease.