Conquer Club

Ruben Cassar wrote:I would rename the Asian Borders to Caucasus. Makes more sense to me.

Ruben Cassar wrote:I would rename the Asian Borders to Caucasus. Makes more sense to me.

Another thing I don't like is the continent grouping. Why aren't Crete and Cyprus part of the Mediterranean Islands? Cause that is just what they are.
Perhaps the continent grouping should be changed a bit. Also note that Crete is part of Greece and the Balearic Islands are part of Spain, Corsica is part of France and Sicily and Sardinia are part of Italy so I don't think it makes sense breaking them up in the continent grouping since they are essentially the same country.

On a personal note I must thank you for including Malta. Since it's such a small country most people omit it from these kind of maps and I am just glad you decided to put it in there.

MrBenn wrote:

jnd94 wrote:No offense to you, but I don't think it needs a revamp. First off (again, no offense) but i think that this one isn't as good as the first. There isn't Africa or Middle East, but yet there is Georgia and Armenia.....I like how the bonuses are divided up better, but the first map seems less squeezed, and better looking.

madsanders wrote:Make a continent with Greece, Turkey, Crete and Cyprus, called The Aegean ( a bit of a stretch considering Cyprus, I know); add Italy to the med. Islands and call that The Med. (possibly losing VC and SM), add Russia to Caucasus.

That' show I would do it, i think.

Heimdall wrote:I think The Balkans countries are too small.

Those people should merge into one country and call it Yugoslavia or something.

rebelman wrote:

Heimdall wrote:I think The Balkans countries are too small.

Those people should merge into one country and call it Yugoslavia or something.

MrBenn wrote:

rebelman wrote:

Heimdall wrote:I think The Balkans countries are too small.

Those people should merge into one country and call it Yugoslavia or something.

I said I'd consider serious suggestions...

Blitzaholic wrote:can you add another continent?

or consider it?

MrBenn wrote:

Ruben Cassar wrote:I would rename the Asian Borders to Caucasus. Makes more sense to me.

Another thing I don't like is the continent grouping. Why aren't Crete and Cyprus part of the Mediterranean Islands? Cause that is just what they are.
Perhaps the continent grouping should be changed a bit. Also note that Crete is part of Greece and the Balearic Islands are part of Spain, Corsica is part of France and Sicily and Sardinia are part of Italy so I don't think it makes sense breaking them up in the continent grouping since they are essentially the same country.

On a personal note I must thank you for including Malta. Since it's such a small country most people omit it from these kind of maps and I am just glad you decided to put it in there.

The Meditteranean Islands weren't on my original draft (except Malta/Cyprus which are countries in their own right), but were added in to help gameplay.

Initially I wanted to keep 100% geographical accuracy, but am being swayed by aesthetic/gameplay considerations...

With that in mind, my open question (to which any serious answers will be considered) is: How would you group the territories into continents?

Ruben Cassar wrote:I just want to say that considering the horrible geographical/naming mistakes that have been made in the other Europe map this one should strive to be as accurate as possible.

Blitzaholic wrote:can you add another continent?

or consider it?

Blitzaholic wrote:can you add another continent?

or consider it?

rebelman wrote:this is an excellent map - im loving it so far but could you please add the following for completeness

as you have already included all other states, statelets and major islands please add Gibraltar

Also as the Ural Mountains mark the division between the European and Asian parts of the Russian Federation these would be a nice addition

Your Turkey is wrong as only a small part of what you coloured is in Europe the rest is in Asia.

Could you please name the Caspian Sea and also move the Norwegian Sea slightly so as not to confuse with Barents Sea which also should be included. Also the sea of Azov should be named along with the Baltic Sea and the White Sea.

It might also be a nice feature to add in the arctic circle

rebelman wrote:

rebelman wrote:this is an excellent map - im loving it so far but could you please add the following for completeness

as you have already included all other states, statelets and major islands please add Gibraltar

Also as the Ural Mountains mark the division between the European and Asian parts of the Russian Federation these would be a nice addition

Your Turkey is wrong as only a small part of what you coloured is in Europe the rest is in Asia.

Could you please name the Caspian Sea and also move the Norwegian Sea slightly so as not to confuse with Barents Sea which also should be included. Also the sea of Azov should be named along with the Baltic Sea and the White Sea.

It might also be a nice feature to add in the arctic circle

my joke comment got an immediate response yet no comments on this serious post from the map maker

MrBenn wrote:

rebelman wrote:

rebelman wrote:this is an excellent map - im loving it so far but could you please add the following for completeness

as you have already included all other states, statelets and major islands please add Gibraltar

Also as the Ural Mountains mark the division between the European and Asian parts of the Russian Federation these would be a nice addition

Your Turkey is wrong as only a small part of what you coloured is in Europe the rest is in Asia.

Could you please name the Caspian Sea and also move the Norwegian Sea slightly so as not to confuse with Barents Sea which also should be included. Also the sea of Azov should be named along with the Baltic Sea and the White Sea.

It might also be a nice feature to add in the arctic circle

my joke comment got an immediate response yet no comments on this serious post from the map maker

Apologies for the oversight... Here's my delayed response:

In my inital draft I only included territories that were countries, but added the Med Islands to help gameplay in the South. I see no reason not to include Gibraltar now, so will look at adding it.

The sea names were added to see what it would look like. I'm still not convinced that I like them, but will add the ones you've mentioned (where there is adequate space).

I know that I have included all of Turkey, and not just European Turkey. Initially I wanted to just have the Eurepean bit next to Greece, but decided to include all of Turkey to avoid confusion, and to help link the Asian Borders.

I don't think I want to include the arctic circle... I have played around with some of the Norweigan Islands in an unpublished draft, and there isn't enough room for them. Combined with the fact I've moved Iceland [gasp] to make more space in general, I think this would add to the 'congested'/'cramped' feel some people have mentioned. If there was more space, I think I'd do it, but there we go.

rebelman wrote:thanks for your response above - everything else is spot on but as you have done so well making this map geographically accurate - i really think you need to reconsider your Turkey decision. It really does distort the accuracy of this map and I'm certain people would prefer an accurate European Turkey in keeping with the excellent geographic accuracy elsewhere on this map.