Conquer Club

DoomYoshi wrote:Just google "49ers toxic locker room. I can't get lmgtfy to load.

Also, you can check out the Seahawks home record from 2013-2015. Since both teams are in the same division, every win for Seattle basically works as a loss for San Fran.

Look up marshawn lynch and beast mode for the richter scale story.

Griffin (the guy with one hand), I don't think has played (maybe he played today). He's on the Seahawks.

betiko wrote:

mookiemcgee wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:I don't like when people flip the bird to the owners of the Packers though. The last small-town team in any of the big 4 leagues. The last team not owned by a Billionaire (although a few teams are owned by big corporations, Green Bay is unique).

Interestingly Green Bay doesn't really have a single owner like every other team, rather it's owned by shareholders. It's kind of a novel idea and it's probably the only reason that the team hasn't moved to a larger market. I think I read or heard somewhere that season ticket holders are offered shares, so a large part of the ownership group is in Wisconsin!

Wikipedia:

"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).

The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL. Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares, which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.

Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s. As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year. "

this is exaclty how football clubs work in spain (real madrid, bacelona ect..). basically, "socios" are members and owners of the club with their season tickets, those are passed around from grandpa to son to grandson... and those guys vote for a new president of the club. I think there is like 51% that can always only be for socios and the other 49% is what you can buy or something.

Symmetry wrote:Ali and Kaepernick were both banned in their prime, primarily because they were black sportsmen, and they peacefully protested against a white government that forced their sport to blacklist them.

Neither of them went in to this led by the idea of future fame and fortune. They were led by their consciences. That's admirable.

For you to say that Kaepernick chose to not play for the NFL and get an endorsement deal instead, that's simply a lie, TGD. That is not admirable.

Bigbullets wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Ali and Kaepernick were both banned in their prime, primarily because they were black sportsmen, and they peacefully protested against a white government that forced their sport to blacklist them.

Neither of them went in to this led by the idea of future fame and fortune. They were led by their consciences. That's admirable.

For you to say that Kaepernick chose to not play for the NFL and get an endorsement deal instead, that's simply a lie, TGD. That is not admirable.

That line of argument is lazy. Kaepernick not being on a team because he's black is like saying Tebow isn't on a team because he's white.

Kaepernick isn't on a team because he isn't worth the hassle. And it's nothing like Ali. Boxing and football are two totally different sports with regard to controversial players.

betiko wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:Just google "49ers toxic locker room. I can't get lmgtfy to load.

Also, you can check out the Seahawks home record from 2013-2015. Since both teams are in the same division, every win for Seattle basically works as a loss for San Fran.

Look up marshawn lynch and beast mode for the richter scale story.

Griffin (the guy with one hand), I don't think has played (maybe he played today). He's on the Seahawks.

that's too much information you are asking me to search about a sport i don't follow at all. also... how the hell did i end up thinking he was the guy with just one hand? it's on that nike add right?

Symmetry wrote:

Bigbullets wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Ali and Kaepernick were both banned in their prime, primarily because they were black sportsmen, and they peacefully protested against a white government that forced their sport to blacklist them.

Neither of them went in to this led by the idea of future fame and fortune. They were led by their consciences. That's admirable.

For you to say that Kaepernick chose to not play for the NFL and get an endorsement deal instead, that's simply a lie, TGD. That is not admirable.

That line of argument is lazy. Kaepernick not being on a team because he's black is like saying Tebow isn't on a team because he's white.

Kaepernick isn't on a team because he isn't worth the hassle. And it's nothing like Ali. Boxing and football are two totally different sports with regard to controversial players.

And yet you bring in a white NFL player who now plays for the MLB as a point of comparison? I'd say that your point was invalid, but you probably already figured that out.

thegreekdog wrote:Tebow plays baseball. The NBA is the acronym for the National Basketball Association which has very little to do with baseball. I think the acronym you're looking for is MLB.

Symmetry wrote:

Bigbullets wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Ali and Kaepernick were both banned in their prime, primarily because they were black sportsmen, and they peacefully protested against a white government that forced their sport to blacklist them.

Neither of them went in to this led by the idea of future fame and fortune. They were led by their consciences. That's admirable.

For you to say that Kaepernick chose to not play for the NFL and get an endorsement deal instead, that's simply a lie, TGD. That is not admirable.

That line of argument is lazy. Kaepernick not being on a team because he's black is like saying Tebow isn't on a team because he's white.

Kaepernick isn't on a team because he isn't worth the hassle. And it's nothing like Ali. Boxing and football are two totally different sports with regard to controversial players.

And yet you bring in a white NFL player who now plays for the MLB as a point of comparison? I'd say that your point was invalid, but you probably already figured that out.

thegreekdog wrote:I tend to think Kaepernick and Tebow are out of football for the similar reasons, namely they aren't that good. There were some rumblings that Kaepernick also wanted (a) to start and (b) more money than his performance dictated; whereas Tebow as just not good at football. Kaepernick had better statistics and was a better player.

On the kneeling, Kaepernick's kneeling is an act of protest and has been attacked by everyone from police to conservatives to the president. Tebow's kneeling was an act of prayer that was mocked (not attacked) by atheists and liberals and people who hated Florida football. They are very different things. Assuming that Kaepernick is out of football because of his protests (which I don't believe), it's poor form to compare him to Tebow who was merely mocked for his kneeling.

Bigbullets wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:I tend to think Kaepernick and Tebow are out of football for the similar reasons, namely they aren't that good. There were some rumblings that Kaepernick also wanted (a) to start and (b) more money than his performance dictated; whereas Tebow as just not good at football. Kaepernick had better statistics and was a better player.

On the kneeling, Kaepernick's kneeling is an act of protest and has been attacked by everyone from police to conservatives to the president. Tebow's kneeling was an act of prayer that was mocked (not attacked) by atheists and liberals and people who hated Florida football. They are very different things. Assuming that Kaepernick is out of football because of his protests (which I don't believe), it's poor form to compare him to Tebow who was merely mocked for his kneeling.

I think Tebow could have won playing for someone who knew how to use him. He won two national championships at the college level. So to say he isn't good at football is a bit inaccurate.

I was responding to those who claim that Kaepernik is out of football because he's black. That's a ridiculous argument.

thegreekdog wrote:I tend to think Kaepernick and Tebow are out of football for the similar reasons, namely they aren't that good. There were some rumblings that Kaepernick also wanted (a) to start and (b) more money than his performance dictated; whereas Tebow as just not good at football. Kaepernick had better statistics and was a better player.

On the kneeling, Kaepernick's kneeling is an act of protest and has been attacked by everyone from police to conservatives to the president. Tebow's kneeling was an act of prayer that was mocked (not attacked) by atheists and liberals and people who hated Florida football. They are very different things. Assuming that Kaepernick is out of football because of his protests (which I don't believe), it's poor form to compare him to Tebow who was merely mocked for his kneeling.

spurgistan wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:I tend to think Kaepernick and Tebow are out of football for the similar reasons, namely they aren't that good. There were some rumblings that Kaepernick also wanted (a) to start and (b) more money than his performance dictated; whereas Tebow as just not good at football. Kaepernick had better statistics and was a better player.

On the kneeling, Kaepernick's kneeling is an act of protest and has been attacked by everyone from police to conservatives to the president. Tebow's kneeling was an act of prayer that was mocked (not attacked) by atheists and liberals and people who hated Florida football. They are very different things. Assuming that Kaepernick is out of football because of his protests (which I don't believe), it's poor form to compare him to Tebow who was merely mocked for his kneeling.

I agree, except for when we should necessarily believe rumblings against a player who may well have been blackballed. AFAIK, none of these come from Kap's camp.
In addition, as long as we're on the subject of player protest, why the hell does Eric Reid not have a job, except for as punishment for his legal protest? He's an undeniably quality safety. The NFL just loves player lawsuits, I guess.

thegreekdog wrote:

Bigbullets wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:I tend to think Kaepernick and Tebow are out of football for the similar reasons, namely they aren't that good. There were some rumblings that Kaepernick also wanted (a) to start and (b) more money than his performance dictated; whereas Tebow as just not good at football. Kaepernick had better statistics and was a better player.

On the kneeling, Kaepernick's kneeling is an act of protest and has been attacked by everyone from police to conservatives to the president. Tebow's kneeling was an act of prayer that was mocked (not attacked) by atheists and liberals and people who hated Florida football. They are very different things. Assuming that Kaepernick is out of football because of his protests (which I don't believe), it's poor form to compare him to Tebow who was merely mocked for his kneeling.

I think Tebow could have won playing for someone who knew how to use him. He won two national championships at the college level. So to say he isn't good at football is a bit inaccurate.

I was responding to those who claim that Kaepernik is out of football because he's black. That's a ridiculous argument.

Did someone say Kaepernick is out of football because he's black? I missed that one.

You can't run the option or rely on superior strength/speed when you're playing Southeast Mississippi State Technical School in the NFL so Tebow may have been good at football generically, but he was not a viable NFL quarterback.

DoomYoshi wrote:I was very surprised when I saw Kaepernick in the top 10 all-time NFL passer rating, according to the hall of fame website.

DoomYoshi wrote:I drove through Solvang once and determined that it was a city founded by Nordic vampires. Why they would want to move to sunny California is anyone's guess. Note to self: elf is a vampire; avoid at all costs.

DoomYoshi wrote:Well, he was already benched prior to the flag protest, so calling him a bad quarterback isn't an excuse, it seems to be what his coaches were thinking.

DoomYoshi wrote:Well, he was already benched prior to the flag protest, so calling him a bad quarterback isn't an excuse, it seems to be what his coaches were thinking.

DoomYoshi wrote:I drove through Solvang once and determined that it was a city founded by Nordic vampires. Why they would want to move to sunny California is anyone's guess. Note to self: elf is a vampire; avoid at all costs.