Conquer Club

DoomYoshi wrote:Tell me what?

DoomYoshi wrote:I guess it depends what news you read. McCain never made it into any of my feeds.

patches70 wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:

patches70 wrote:

I guess it depends what news you read. McCain never made it into any of my feeds.

And what about Klitschko, any comment to the evidence I offered that he is indeed calling for mobilization in Ukraine? Or do you still have some sort of problem with my simple reporting of his actual freaking words?

The Russian speaking people don't want anything to do with this new government that took power via coup.

patches70 wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:Tell me what?

Apparently nothing, since you only listen to things that don't tell you shit.

DoomYoshi wrote:I guess it depends what news you read. McCain never made it into any of my feeds.

doomyoshi wrote:I'm sorry that when I see some insignificant Yankee politician

patches70 wrote:You should see the propaganda going on in the US as to why we should support the coup democratic movement in Ukraine and be angry as hell at Russia.
And it's all different degrees of bullshit.

The Russian economy has too much to lose from Ukraine to back down.

Civilized people will lose interest before Russia - no matter how many resources we have to begin with.

patches70 wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, something big may be about to go down in the Ukraine. UN to meet Monday on what to do.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-approves-m ... 15025.html

What can the UN do? Russia has a permanent seat on the Security council, and veto power over any measure.

patches70 wrote:And Doom, after thinking about it, I think I might understand your confusion about McCain. As in, you probably didn't know that McCain went to the Ukraine, back in December he was in the Ukraine meeting with protesters.

Russia's upper house of parliament will appeal to President Vladimir Putin to recall the Russian ambassador to Washington, the chamber's speaker said Saturday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukrain ... d-c-n41916

patches70 wrote:And before people jump all over Russia for this, this is the exact same reasoning the US used for it's invasion of Grenada if you recall. To protect American citizens there. I know, that was a long time ago and people have likely forgotten all about that, but much more recently was Russia smacking Georgia for the exact same reasoning, to protect Russian citizens.

Phatscotty wrote:

patches70 wrote:And Doom, after thinking about it, I think I might understand your confusion about McCain. As in, you probably didn't know that McCain went to the Ukraine, back in December he was in the Ukraine meeting with protesters.

I posted about Mccain at the time, showed video of the speech.

There is a price to pay for blowing off my posts

saxitoxin wrote:The Federation Council is demanding President Putin recall the Russian ambassador to the United States due to the Obama regime's incessant warmongering and threats against Russian peacekeeping forces that have been legally deployed in the Ukraine.

Russia's upper house of parliament will appeal to President Vladimir Putin to recall the Russian ambassador to Washington, the chamber's speaker said Saturday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukrain ... d-c-n41916

Now is a good time to repost this cheeky song by the Russian Army choir from 5 years ago ...

I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve

muy_thaiguy wrote:

patches70 wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, something big may be about to go down in the Ukraine. UN to meet Monday on what to do.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-approves-m ... 15025.html

What can the UN do? Russia has a permanent seat on the Security council, and veto power over any measure.

Don't know. But a meeting has been called for Monday.

DoomYoshi wrote:Russia just attacked Canadian stationed at Pearl Harbour:
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/hmcs-protecteur-to-be-towed-to-pearl-harbour-following-fire-1.1710034

Putin says:

I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve

Qwert wrote:i think that real war not going to happend.
US invade Iraq with false reasons (WMD),overthrow regime and Russia oppose this,but not react military.
US bombard Serbia and take province of Kosovo and Metohia from Serbia, create pupet state,,Russia oppose this,but not react military.
US bombard Libya, help active in overthrow of regime, create unstable contry,, and Russia again oppose this ,but not react military.

From other side Russia provide support to Osetia and Abhazia in war against Georgia,,,US oppose this but not react military.

So i think that US will oppose Russian Intervention in crimea,,but will not react military.

GoranZ wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:Russia just attacked Canadian stationed at Pearl Harbour:
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/hmcs-protecteur-to-be-towed-to-pearl-harbour-following-fire-1.1710034

Putin says:

I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve

You sheet in your pants when you hear or read the word Russia... Although from your article you go one step forward, you shit in your pants even without reading it

Now we all know why Nazis never had any problems in occupation of France during WWII.

Qwert wrote:i think that real war not going to happend.
US invade Iraq with false reasons (WMD),overthrow regime and Russia oppose this,but not react military.
US bombard Serbia and take province of Kosovo and Metohia from Serbia, create pupet state,,Russia oppose this,but not react military.
US bombard Libya, help active in overthrow of regime, create unstable contry,, and Russia again oppose this ,but not react military.

From other side Russia provide support to Osetia and Abhazia in war against Georgia,,,US oppose this but not react military.

So i think that US will oppose Russian Intervention in crimea,,but will not react military.

And regular people of Ukraine will suffer, regardless if they are proEU or proRussian.

Qwert wrote:but US only care for hes own interest.

Qwert wrote: Also American Secretary Kerry say
"You just don't in the 21st Century behave in 19th Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext,"
Sound familiar with US reason for Iraq invasion?

Its so funny how every US invasion and intervention are legitimate, but any other country who try something similar are threat for entire planet?

Pope Joan wrote:

Qwert wrote: Also American Secretary Kerry say
"You just don't in the 21st Century behave in 19th Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext,"
Sound familiar with US reason for Iraq invasion?

Its so funny how every US invasion and intervention are legitimate, but any other country who try something similar are threat for entire planet?

You invade as much as you can get away with. Putin played his hand very well in Georgia in 2008. It is interesting to see what he does with Ukraine, it is History in making, just sad and worried for the people who has to live through it...

IMHO, he can easily get away with an occupation of Crimea, both strategically and politically; but it is much harder to do anything in the rest of the Ukraine.

Pope Joan wrote:Personally, I like Kerry and he does what he has to do in this situation. But I despise our Bill Hague: we have nothing up the sleeve to surprise Russia with but this posh twat is so obviously trying "to punch above his weight".

Pope Joan wrote:

Qwert wrote: Also American Secretary Kerry say
"You just don't in the 21st Century behave in 19th Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext,"
Sound familiar with US reason for Iraq invasion?

Its so funny how every US invasion and intervention are legitimate, but any other country who try something similar are threat for entire planet?

You invade as much as you can get away with. Putin played his hand very well in Georgia in 2008. It is interesting to see what he does with Ukraine, it is History in making, just sad and worried for the people who has to live through it...

IMHO, he can easily get away with an occupation of Crimea, both strategically and politically; but it is much harder to do anything in the rest of the Ukraine.

Personally, I like Kerry and he does what he has to do in this situation. But I despise our Bill Hague: we have nothing up the sleeve to surprise Russia with but this posh twat is so obviously trying "to punch above his weight".

The mood in Kiev was radically different as about 50,000 people massed on Independence Square -- the crucible of both the latest wave of demonstrations and the 2004 Orange Revolution that first nudged Kiev on a westward path -- in protest at Putin's latest threat.

"We will not surrender," the huge crowd chanted under grey skies.

Ukraine launched a treason case on Sunday against the head of the navy, who surrendered his headquarters on Sunday — on only his second day on the job. "During the blockade by Russian forces of the central headquarters of the navy, he declined to offer resistance and laid down his weapons," said Viktoria Syumar, deputy secretary of Ukraine's Security Council.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukrain ... son-n42526

Another admiral, Serhiy Hayduk, was placed in charge of the navy.