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notyou2 wrote:I haven't read the entire thread but it appears many of you are ignoring a key word in Gov. Cuomo's address "extreme". I am anti extreme anything, no matter the political spectrum. It is extremists of all colours, stripes, religious affiliations, sexual orientations, etc., that are causing 90%+ of all the problems in the world.
He is right when he says they are not welcome in NY. Perhaps we should make a poll, determine who all the extremists in the world are, and put them all in Antarctica. The world would be a much better place for all the sensible people.
Great, you nailed it, what I think is important here. What is extreme, and who decides? It's pretty clear already that some people straight up believe the Constitution is extreme, and anyone who believes in it is an extremist.
People don't believe that the Constitution is extreme. People believe that anyone in 2014 who insists in adhering to the 1780s' interpretation of every part of a legal document is an extremist.
Give me more Executive Ordes OBAMA!!! f*ck the Bill of Rights and the Constitution! Who needs them old documents when we have the NSA CIA FBI IRS DHS and our good old buddy the Patriot Act... Lets get this dictatorship rollin...MMERICA .... f*ck Yeah! We come to save the motherfuckin day now!!!!! Resistance is futile.. You must assimilate to the collective...
Phatscotty wrote:I don't think pro-life is extreme. I think it's highly reasonable and rational how a person can believe abortion is murder.
Do you find it reasonable and rational that most people don't think eating meat is murder?
Yes. That is, to say, I find it reasonable and rational that most people think there is a difference between a human being and a rattlesnake, or any other animal.
And here's something for you and your quest towards enlightenment, per Texas (yes, he cries)
Phatscotty wrote:I don't think pro-life is extreme. I think it's highly reasonable and rational how a person can believe abortion is murder.
Do you find it reasonable and rational that most people don't think eating meat is murder?
Yes. That is, to say, I find it reasonable and rational that most people think there is a difference between a human being and a rattlesnake, or any other animal.
Well, a human fetus is different from an adult human. Simply 'looking different' is obviously not a relevant moral characteristic in determining whether killing is acceptable.