WWII Operation Iwo Jima [Quenched]

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:07 pm

i was just wondering if you knew him and perhaps asked him to join, but anyway back to the map. I believe this map should cease not just because of you qwert but also because of the fact most people (look at the poll) do not want this map.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:17 pm

i think that these not fair, after 1 day of vote that eliminate these map, and people who give me a support in first vote maybe dont know that vote its change becouse andy.

Arcanos · Post by **Arcanos** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:21 pm

you would probably have like a 70-90% approval if eastern front was fnished, alot of people are sour and want you to finish it and will reject whatever you do until it is finished....... guys give the guy a break

bedplay · Post by **bedplay** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:26 pm

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qwert wrote:i think that these not fair, after 1 day of vote that eliminate these map, and people who give me a support in first vote maybe dont know that vote its change becouse andy.

And perhaps neither do the people who said eliminate, besides, your last poll was written with bias... You can't just write anything as an option for a poll. Plus don't blame andy for removing your immature, stupid little post.. what are you 10 or something?

for example
"help the evil Teya by destroying my good work and ruining conquer club"

that would be biased so that most people wouldn't choose it...

despite this, both polls have been in the favour of NO, don't continue.

I think I said this before.

If you really must continue working on this map, do, but please don't complain when most people want you to throw any of your hard work away.

[b]Plus, to all the people defending qwert, read what keyogi, teya and him have said first, on this thread and eastern front. I once said the same thing "stop giving qwert a hard time" .etc. I now realise the error of my ways.

The only way to get past qwert's stubborness is to keep on at him, he is the immature, stubborn, one who points the finger, not Keyogi or Teya

qwert, get your act together.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:26 pm

That will be very bad move, i say several times that if you forcing people to do something in force, then work will go in diferent way not in good way. People must vote if these likes not to put me ultimatum, and ultimatum its very bad thing.
And i mean that 1 day of vote its very small time for these decision.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:30 pm

Bedplay wrote
"help the evil Teya by destroying my good work and ruining conquer club"

These a insult, and i dont understand why you dont put real previos vote question, please write real my vords not some imagine vords from you.

bedplay · Post by **bedplay** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:30 pm

qwert wrote:That will be very bad move, i say several times that if you forcing people to do something in force, then work will go in diferent way not in good way. People must vote if these likes not to put me ultimatum, and ultimatum its very bad thing.
And i mean that 1 day of vote its very small time for these decision.

WHAT?! did you read my post at all... before posting, make sure you UNDERSTAND and read all of the post before, I didn't write anything about forcing you to do anything...

qwert wrote:Bedplay wrote
"help the evil Teya by destroying my good work and ruining conquer club"

These a insult, and i dont understand why you dont put real previos vote question, please write real my vords not some imagine vords from you.

I know this isn't what you said, but what you said was still a weighted/ biased question.

That is why i put

For example (an example showing you how a biased question makes people choose the other option.)

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:32 pm

Bedplay when i wrote these post we wrote in same time 17.26 and i dont read you post if you understand

bedplay · Post by **bedplay** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:34 pm

qwert wrote:Bedplay when i wrote these post we wrote in same time 17.26 and i dont read you post if you understand

well who were you replying to, no-one before me said anything about you finishing eastern front map, Arcanos was defending you, saying you shouldn't have to... he WASN'T forcing you....

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:47 pm

These your example its bad, people will think that i insulting others people.
I never say insulting in all map foundry.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:05 pm

bedplay wrote
qwert wrote:
Bedplay when i wrote these post we wrote in same time 17.26 and i dont read you post if you understand

well who were you replying to, no-one before me said anything about you finishing eastern front map, Arcanos was defending you, saying you shouldn't have to... he WASN'T forcing you....

Its look that you dont understand, we together in same time wrote post 17.26.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:18 am

This its second day of vote, score its 50-50%please vote.

socralynnek · Post by **socralynnek** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:41 am

We are still in the general stage of whether this map should be done (independent on how it is made afterwards), or not?

So, my general thoughts:

I kind of like the idea of having important battlegorunds as a map.
But sorry, I didn't know of this operation before.

And I wouldn't want to see hundreds of maps of more or less important WWII battles.

So I say: Let's first create more important ones, like WW II Eastern Front, D-Day, Pearl Harbor, Waterloo, American Civil War or something that was really important for some other region.

So Isay: No!
But please create some other, more interesting ones!

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:50 am

(You dont know for Iwo jima??)Socralynnek i not the only map author here, let others create D-Day,Perl Harbor and others WW2 maps(Waterlo its Napoleonic War, And American Civil war its not WW2). You dont need to say no just vote.
Here last update who players who dont see map.
These only the 1 stage of work

Molacole · Post by **Molacole** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:22 am

I think a big part of this map should be focused on the main mountain on that island. If I remember correctly the US's main strategy was to capture the hill because the cannons on it could reach any part of that island.

I would make the cannons able to attack any space more than 2 territories away from them. I would also do the same for the Navy. Give them both the ability to attack nearly any space on the map.

you could give tanks a +2 bonus to range and a -1 for troop penalty because they were perfect targets for the cannons.

I would also consider minimizing bonuses a great deal and focus most of the map on strategic strongholds such as cannons, air fields and navy. You could even make anti air cannon territories that can only attack the air fields.

Thos are just some of the thoughts I had to make it more like the actual battle was instead of another race for bonuses.

If you could pull this off I think it would become an extremely popular map for those of us who love playing strategically rather than letting the dice do all the work.

Molacole · Post by **Molacole** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:32 am

socralynnek wrote:We are still in the general stage of whether this map should be done (independent on how it is made afterwards), or not?

So, my general thoughts:

I kind of like the idea of having important battlegorunds as a map.
But sorry, I didn't know of this operation before.

And I wouldn't want to see hundreds of maps of more or less important WWII battles.

So I say: Let's first create more important ones, like WW II Eastern Front, D-Day, Pearl Harbor, Waterloo, American Civil War or something that was really important for some other region.

So Isay: No!
But please create some other, more interesting ones!

are you serious?

Have you ever seen that picture of those soldiers raising our flag on top of a mountain? here take a look somebody already posted it on this thread.

that picture right there is pretty much the source of what kept our military funds alive. Not important? Because of that picture and the affects it had on the US I would think this battle was very important.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:37 am

Molacole you have very interesting sugestion, but im a fraid that these idea will be eliminated, i hope that people support these map like you do.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:07 pm

People say that want to se more maps of WW2, but when i see in Developmental Atlas i look that only 1 project its work(WW2 europe Theatre in vacation). I dont know whene these site it build, but nobody work in these maps. Why people dont want to create these maps can somebody answer in these question. I be very happy to se that someone else work in these maps to.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:19 pm

There as a very good one in development, Qwert, but it was recently abandoned (although it it is very near completion).

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:44 pm

I dont see any map in ABANDONED DEVELOPMENTAL ATLAS with ww2 theme.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:15 pm

Only map what i see its a WW2 Europe theater(in vacation)

Ninja-Town · Post by **Ninja-Town** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:33 pm

He was talking about your eastern front map....

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:58 pm

ITs not abandoned its vacation, but if you want i can abandoned

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:57 am

ok 3 day of vote begining

its last update for everybody who dont see map

perchorin · Post by **perchorin** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:19 am

qwert wrote:I REPEAT AGAIN WWII EASTERN FRONT ITS IN VACATION, AND I ALSO IN vacation OF THESE MAP.
I want to try to work in new map, and these can be iwo jima,these can be a very good map.

If the Eastern Front map is on vacation maybe you'd better take it out of your signature?