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Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:13 am
by aage
theherkman wrote:I wasn't sure if you meant link (connection) or link (url).

I know they are two different things, I just think it is funny how all of the "holes" he found have nothing to do with me. And the one "hole" he could have used he provided a link that proved me right and himself wrong. Lol!

No, incorrect. You believe this to be correct because you like to read selectively, which in your case (alas!) isn't a scumtell.

Okay, so your first point is something that has nothing to do with me. That would be a question for the mod when the game is over. I have no idea about how often people can do things on N0. I've only had a N0 in one other game. I also have no idea about balance. I haven't ran a game yet. I have one in the works and if you read it, I set it up so I wouldn't have to deal with balance issues.

Yeah, don't ask me questions about my role, the mod will give you anything when the game is over?
You were the one to claim you had a friend who has flavor cop powers. This means you are related to the flavor cop. And since you two decided that you would be doing the talking, Haggis was asking you do do that. Unfortunately, all you choose to come up with is "has nothing to do with me, ask the mod" without even responding to his point.


Now your second point is something that would have to do with me. But your point is also based on a logical fallacy. I never said we could detect one faction. I never said we could detect all factions. To be honest, until I ask tomorrow night, I won't know. The important thing to notice here is that you assumed I could only detect one faction instead of all factions. Something I couldn't answer and ALSO something that shouldn't matter at this point.

Your buddy's a flavor cop. He gets a result based on the allegiancy of the target. Since not all mafia's are related to each other in this game, your food cop thus should get two flavor of pizza. Unfortunately, again, you only announced that "mafia" eat "pizza". There was no mention of any difference between the two, while there should have been. So, once again, you managed to completely miss the point of the argument.

This is your best point yet! Perhaps you should read the mafiascum link you posted here. You know, the one that suggests the mod give the results to flavor cops early?

You are probably referring to this:
"For fairness, the moderator should list the investigation results ahead of time."
This means that your food cop already knows that mafia eat pizza. Otherwise he only had known that Haggis ate pizza, and that's it. So, again, you managed to show the best of your selectively reading skills.



Mind you, I'm not believing anyone just yet. In this case though I think you, THM, should answer some questions first.

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:23 am
by theherkman
Okay fine.

#1 - He was asking questions about game balance and investigations on N0. I have ABSOLUTELY NO idea about this. I don't know what Victor was thinking or what roles get N0 investigations! How could he possibly expect me to answer this?

#2 - I don't know how many mafia factions can be detected. All I know is Haggis is an extra anchovy pizza. He took this to mean that he was a godfather/godmother. Perhaps another faction will return extra sausage pizza. I don't know. We didn't get to analyze the results together because I didn't see his PMs until after day started. I am pretty sure though that all mafia shows as pizza and the toppings might just be to confuse us. I will get more information on that part of the role tonight.

#3 - Okay, lol... Some misreading there. I will forward the PM I got to Vic and give him the time and see if he says we are in trouble...

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:54 am
by aage
theherkman wrote:Okay fine.

#1 - He was asking questions about game balance and investigations on N0. I have ABSOLUTELY NO idea about this. I don't know what Victor was thinking or what roles get N0 investigations! How could he possibly expect me to answer this?

He probably doesn't; I think he wants to point out that if such a role existed it would be imbalanced, and thus such a role couldn't exist.

#2 - I don't know how many mafia factions can be detected. All I know is Haggis is an extra anchovy pizza. He took this to mean that he was a godfather/godmother. Perhaps another faction will return extra sausage pizza. I don't know. We didn't get to analyze the results together because I didn't see his PMs until after day started. I am pretty sure though that all mafia shows as pizza and the toppings might just be to confuse us. I will get more information on that part of the role tonight.

You should've mentioned the extra anchovy far earlier.



Still, the odds of you bluffing all of this away right on day 1 are tiny at best :P

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:16 am
by theherkman
aage wrote:You should've mentioned the extra anchovy far earlier.


I thought that the extra topping was either to throw us off or that he was important. I seriously doubt it means mafia 1 or mafia 2. It wasn't in his role PM because he said he didn't know what it meant. He thought it meant he was godfather/godmother.

aage wrote:Still, the odds of you bluffing all of this away right on day 1 are tiny at best.


Ya' think? Lolz. You know I love it when you talk sense, Aage.

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:17 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
:lol: Well, it's nice when the bullshit reasoning is rebutted by other people before I get a chance to respond.

herk wrote:This is even more funny that anything else you have said. You claim that I am a lyncher and that there are holes in my claim. Let's go over those holes you mentioned once again, shall we?

1. Has nothing to do with me.
2. Has nothing to do with me.
3. You proved me correct.

Were those the holes you were talking about?


Well, actually like:
1. This is why it is unlikely you are telling the truth.
2. This is why it is even unlikelier you are telling the truth.
3. This is how I caught you actually lying or cheating.

Btw, very convenient how you remembered the anchovy part when aage mentioned that the different mafias should have different flavours of pizza.

herk wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Also:
Jace22 wrote:I believe that haggis isn't in your faction. After all, this isn't a town vs scum game, it's a faction game, so would you not be getting pizza for everyone but you and your partner?


This is totally admitting that he's in a faction. His later comment about town not being "black and white" and his comment during confirmation that his role is boring makes me seriously suspect the he was recruited N0.


Guess who pointed this out first, Haggis? Me.


Do you want a freakin cookie?
Every time I agree with you must I preface the post with Attention: This is a fact on which I agree with the mighty Herk? :lol:

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:51 pm
by theherkman
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Do you want a freakin cookie?
Every time I agree with you must I preface the post with Attention: This is a fact on which I agree with the mighty Herk? :lol:


Ab-so-fucking-lutely. I'm a little sore since you took my post in the NB game and claimed it as your own. It took me almost an hour to make links for 30 people and you just stole it and everyone says nice post Haggis and you say thanks, np. You always do like to let others do your work. Anyway this discussion will have to be slow and over several days since I have just reached...

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And have 400 more to go.

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:57 pm
by aage
theherkman wrote:Image

You premium people are sick. Really. :P


Also, if you don't mind, would you respond to the post please?

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:50 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
theherkman wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Do you want a freakin cookie?
Every time I agree with you must I preface the post with Attention: This is a fact on which I agree with the mighty Herk? :lol:


Ab-so-fucking-lutely. I'm a little sore since you took my post in the NB game and claimed it as your own. It took me almost an hour to make links for 30 people and you just stole it and everyone says nice post Haggis and you say thanks, np. You always do like to let others do your work. Anyway this discussion will have to be slow and over several days since I have just reached...


Dude, please. You made a post of links to the search function pages.
I wrote what I actually thought about each of the 30 players in the game.(which meant a shit-ton of re-reading), which do you think takes longer?

Additionally I apologized for "stealing" your work once in Briasburg and I haven't claimed it to be mine since.

Since you claim to still be sore, I'll say it again. Thanks for the links, it helped me re-read the player's posts in isolation and sorry for inadvertently "stealing" your work(thought the guy was referring to my analysis). Now just drop it already.

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:13 pm
by Victor Sullivan
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Now just drop it already.

I agree, lets keep things on topic, and not allow this thread to become a flame war between the two of you. Dont make me PR you, theherkman, I WILL consult Fircoal ;)

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:22 pm
by Campin_Killer
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Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:06 pm
by Victor Sullivan
Lets pick up the pace, guys.

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:02 am
by theherkman
I. have. now. received. a. post. restriction. Unfortunately. the. info. given. to. me. by. my. partner. was. indeed. pm'd. 10. min. after. the. start. of. the. day. it. will. not. happen. again. sorry. guys.
this. is. ghay.

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:52 am
by theherkman
And..now.. that..i..read..my..second..pr.. i..also..have..for..flaming..come..on..periods?..you..couldn't..think..of..anything..else..better..to.do..to..me?

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:27 am
by The Weird One
theherkman wrote:And..now.. that..i..read..my..second..pr.. i..also..have..for..flaming..come..on..periods?..you..couldn't..think..of..anything..else..better..to.do..to..me?

Could be worse...The most annoying one I've seen is having to misspell everything.

Sorry for being rather inactive...I've been kinda busy lately. Will reread and post after I've woken up sometime tomorrow. [About to crash, now]

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:18 am
by theherkman
The Weird One wrote:
theherkman wrote:And..now.. that..i..read..my..second..pr.. i..also..have..for..flaming..come..on..periods?..you..couldn't..think..of..anything..else..better..to.do..to..me?

Could be worse...The most annoying one I've seen is having to misspell everything.

Sorry for being rather inactive...I've been kinda busy lately. Will reread and post after I've woken up sometime tomorrow. [About to crash, now]


Now..I..don't..really..think..it..is..fair..because..it..wasn't..my..fault..
All..I..did..was..read..it..
It..was..my..partner's..fault..and..I..think..he..should..get..the..pr..instead..of..me..
You..can..reread..,..but..to..sum..it..up.........haggis..is..scummy....checked..last..night..gtg..

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:26 am
by Campin_Killer
I have the best(or worse depending on if you get them) PRs ever

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:40 pm
by Victor Sullivan
Bump #2. Setting a deadline at #3.

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:22 am
by theherkman
Is..there..going..to..be..no..more..discusion..?

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:41 am
by VioIet
I have reason to believe herk.

Vote Haggis

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:01 am
by theherkman
Well..I..am..wondering..what..reason..that..is.. Have..I..swayed..you..with..my..persuasive..logic..or..do..you..know..something..you..aren't..telling..us..

Pick..#1..please..=D..

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:07 am
by jeraado
Well, it's the best we've got to go on so I'll vote haggis

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:09 am
by theherkman
Wow..Vioiet..must..be..like..the..most..important..person..ever..because..people..follow..her..left..and..right..

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:15 am
by jeraado
Actually (hopefully this doesn't come across scummy) I tended towards giving you the benefit of the doubt, since if you are lying you will be lynched day 2, but didnt want to be first to jump

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:25 am
by theherkman
Oh..okay..well..I..promise..you..can..lynch..away..tomorrow..if..he..isn't..scummy..
But..that..won't..happen..because..I'm..not..lying..
Can..we..please..just..end..this..fucking..day..so..I..can..quit..with..the..periods..?!?!?!

Re: 3 Factions Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:07 am
by aage
theherkman wrote:Oh..okay..well..I..promise..you..can..lynch..away..tomorrow..if..he..isn't..scummy..
But..that..won't..happen..because..I'm..not..lying..
Can..we..please..just..end..this..fucking..day..so..I..can..quit..with..the..periods..?!?!?!

You may think you're not lying. Maybe your pal is giving you the wrong information. If Haggis wasn't scum, you'd better start talking first.
vote haggis.