Conquer Club

owenshooter wrote:

Zemljanin wrote:the word FUСK isn't the issue; Jesus is.

then you obviously have not read the complaint...-the black uber offensive jesus

well seeing as the presence of Jesus was exactly my complaint, It looks like he read the complaint a lot more closely than you

why is jesus unable to express himself? why cant the messiah say f*ck?

1. Who said anything about it being Jesus? That's only your impression.
2. What offends someone is totally relativistic. To someone who got molested, your location could be rather offensive. If I had someone close who'd died from something smoking related, i might find Victor's avi offensive.
3. What's the big deal with the word f*ck? You don't like it, don't use it. Stop trying to push your own opinions and crap onto everyone else. As hypocritical as it is for me to say that

Harry Potter, over looking a school. I find people that peer at children offensive. Clear this already Team CC

lol some ones already going and trying to get TBH (owenshooter) banned again after his 6 month ban never fails xD

obscure.co.uk wrote:Owenshooter - when you get the T-shirts made let me know, I'll buy one.

Personally I find Catholics offensive and request that they be banned from CC. I will leave the explanation as to why to someone far more capable than me... Mr Stephen Fry http://dai.ly/dyJv4S.

Seriously that is the worst thing ever. Just because you are Athiest and hate Catholics doesn't mean you should try to get them banned...the white Catholic has spoken-The White Catholic

colton24 wrote:

obscure.co.uk wrote:Owenshooter - when you get the T-shirts made let me know, I'll buy one.

Personally I find Catholics offensive and request that they be banned from CC. I will leave the explanation as to why to someone far more capable than me... Mr Stephen Fry http://dai.ly/dyJv4S.

Seriously that is the worst thing ever. Just because you are Athiest and hate Catholics doesn't mean you should try to get them banned...the white Catholic has spoken-The White Catholic

Quite frankly I am very offended by people who "GOD on earth" worship. (Pope)

Does the pope/Catholic church teach that JESUS was black?/????? Not that I have ever seen. Soooo you being "offended" by a word on a pic that would require your imagination to put an association with what could be offensive to you is just straw pulling.

So just cuz you don't like owen doesn't mean you should try getting him banned either... It's called hypocrisy.

FYI. Are you aware of the origin of the word f*ck? You would be surprised.

Eddy_26 wrote:1. Who said anything about it being Jesus? That's only your impression.

the crown of thorns is one clue. the fact that owen calls himself 'the black jesus' is another

you aren't being as clever as you think you are

Is using "the f-word" on a picture more or less offensive than using a derogatory slur against homosexuals on your profile?

hairy potter wrote:owenshooter has made nearly 7000 posts, and any posts he makes on a message board topic are accompanied by this picture; it therefore appears all over this site, in places that many people who probably don't wish to see it will be visiting.

i have had multiple avatars over the course of my time at CC... each time i change my avatar, that particular image accompanies every post i have made... this particular avatar has only been in use a few months and the "f*ck" has only been on there a matter of weeks... you are clueless and my avatar is well within the guidelines. i asked multiple mods and an admin if putting f*ck on my avatar would be offensive in the wake of my C&A complaint, and i was told it would not be offensive. again, good luck!!! and i love the homophobic bigotry on your wall!!! the black jesus loves all of his children...-the black jesus

owenshooter wrote:

hairy potter wrote:owenshooter has made nearly 7000 posts, and any posts he makes on a message board topic are accompanied by this picture; it therefore appears all over this site, in places that many people who probably don't wish to see it will be visiting.

i have had multiple avatars over the course of my time at CC... each time i change my avatar, that particular image accompanies every post i have made... this particular avatar has only been in use a few months and the "f*ck" has only been on there a matter of weeks... you are clueless and my avatar is well within the guidelines. i asked multiple mods and an admin if putting f*ck on my avatar would be offensive in the wake of my C&A complaint, and i was told it would not be offensive. again, good luck!!! and i love the homophobic bigotry on your wall!!! the black jesus loves all of his children...-the black jesus

Whoa. Calm down, tbj. No need to jab back at hp for something unrelated. If the mods said fine, then fine. They'll prolly close this soon, then. No need to defend yourself, then, right?

Cheers,
Sully

close it???

rofl.. the persecution is coming

owenshooter wrote:

hairy potter wrote:owenshooter has made nearly 7000 posts, and any posts he makes on a message board topic are accompanied by this picture; it therefore appears all over this site, in places that many people who probably don't wish to see it will be visiting.

i have had multiple avatars over the course of my time at CC... each time i change my avatar, that particular image accompanies every post i have made... this particular avatar has only been in use a few months and the "f*ck" has only been on there a matter of weeks... you are clueless and my avatar is well within the guidelines. i asked multiple mods and an admin if putting f*ck on my avatar would be offensive in the wake of my C&A complaint, and i was told it would not be offensive. again, good luck!!! and i love the homophobic bigotry on your wall!!! the black jesus loves all of his children...-the black jesus

we all love the black jesus 2 xD

If you want to be offended by the f word and religious connotations, I would encourage you to look no further than the Pope Song by Tim Minchin. It's a good example of how to use obscenity to make a point (ie which is more shocking: the use of the f word, or covering-up child abuse). While I'm not convinced it's the best way to make a point, it is certainly an effective one (provided your audience is intelligent enough to understand the message and not get hooked on Pope-bashing or rampant obscenity).

hairy potter wrote:

Eddy_26 wrote:1. Who said anything about it being Jesus? That's only your impression.

the crown of thorns is one clue. the fact that owen calls himself 'the black jesus' is another

you aren't being as clever as you think you are

Dude, at the end of the day if someone stuck the word f*ck on your avatar i could make your complaint, and i would have just as much to stand on as you do. Which is to say, nothing.

tim minchin likes to think he's clever but he's just a cheap clown, same as all the others

Eddy_26 wrote:

hairy potter wrote:

Eddy_26 wrote:1. Who said anything about it being Jesus? That's only your impression.

the crown of thorns is one clue. the fact that owen calls himself 'the black jesus' is another

you aren't being as clever as you think you are

Dude, at the end of the day if someone stuck the word f*ck on your avatar i could make your complaint, and i would have just as much to stand on as you do. Which is to say, nothing.

it is not saying the true word so he is fine all it says is F*ck

Is the true word like a password?

[player]Calidrmr[/player]'s avatar is of a "giraffe" running and stumbling with the f*ck word. [player]Owenshooter[/player]'s avatar is of Jesus Christ with the f*ck word. These two are very different images. One is like a comedy thing while the other, I would even say, is the central figure of Christianity. How can we say that it is only a picture with an "f" word? If you want to carry a religious symbol as your avatar, I would advise that you take better care of it and avoid any hint of bashing it. If you belong to a different religion, a non-believer, an atheist, etc., try to respect one's religion then. The combination of the f*ck word and a picture of a religious symbol is simply inappropriate and it disrespects/ridicules what it represents. If you are protesting something, you are also flaming/baiting with this avatar. If you want to protest something, do it properly. If you really want to have that 'f' word on your avatar, replace it with a neutral, non-religious, or a non-flaming background instead. This current avatar is not acceptable.

Pm sent.

Victor Sullivan wrote:

owenshooter wrote:

hairy potter wrote:owenshooter has made nearly 7000 posts, and any posts he makes on a message board topic are accompanied by this picture; it therefore appears all over this site, in places that many people who probably don't wish to see it will be visiting.

i have had multiple avatars over the course of my time at CC... each time i change my avatar, that particular image accompanies every post i have made... this particular avatar has only been in use a few months and the "f*ck" has only been on there a matter of weeks... you are clueless and my avatar is well within the guidelines. i asked multiple mods and an admin if putting f*ck on my avatar would be offensive in the wake of my C&A complaint, and i was told it would not be offensive. again, good luck!!! and i love the homophobic bigotry on your wall!!! the black jesus loves all of his children...-the black jesus

Whoa. Calm down, tbj. No need to jab back at hp for something unrelated. If the mods said fine, then fine. They'll prolly close this soon, then. No need to defend yourself, then, right?

Cheers,
Sully

Or so you thought...

hairy potter wrote:religious figures are sacred,

Only if you espouse those religions

hairy potter wrote:or, leaving religion aside, a picture of something like the twin towers with 'f*ck' written over them. it is unecessarily provocative.

Anything with the word written all over it is unnecessarily provocative.

However, in his case, he's likely making a statement about the "legal" but unnecessary use of this and other words that aren't just tolerated, but are indirectly encouraged. Why would I say they are indirectly encouraged? Because people who complain about profanities here are frequently mocked and jeered at, even by several mods, for expressing concerns.

That said, here's a video that uses the word to make people laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NmThmsebcU

and here's a history of a symbol intended to mean the same thing

http://www.ooze.com/finger/html/history.html

king achilles wrote:[player]Calidrmr[/player]'s avatar is of a "giraffe" running and stumbling with the f*ck word. [player]Owenshooter[/player]'s avatar is of Jesus Christ with the f*ck word. These two are very different images. One is like a comedy thing while the other, I would even say, is the central figure of Christianity. How can we say that it is only a picture with an "f" word? If you want to carry a religious symbol as your avatar, I would advise that you take better care of it and avoid any hint of bashing it. If you belong to a different religion, a non-believer, an atheist, etc., try to respect one's religion then. The combination of the f*ck word and a picture of a religious symbol is simply inappropriate and it disrespects/ridicules what it represents. If you are protesting something, you are also flaming/baiting with this avatar. If you want to protest something, do it properly. If you really want to have that 'f' word on your avatar, replace it with a neutral, non-religious, or a non-flaming background instead. This current avatar is not acceptable.

Pm sent.

I didn't realize your religion was about a wooden cross with a man on it suspended in a jar of piss....that is one odd religion.

this is an odd ruling...

ronc8649 wrote:this is an odd ruling...

It may have had more to do with the "who" than the "what".

ronc8649 wrote:this is an odd ruling...

Unfortunately, this is the worst ruling possible. Not from the sense of it being an inaccurate ruling, but rather from the sense of non-prejudiciality. What I'm referring to here is that the moderators SHOULD be making every effort to ensure that they are not seen as "above the law" or treated differently by other moderators due to their position. Not that I don't say that they should be making every effort to ensure that they AREN'T above the law...rather I am speaking of perceptions here.

Unfortunately, this ruling does the opposite.

King achilles has made a perfectly reasonable recognition here that these are two different situations (between Calidmr's and owenshooter's avatars). As reasonable as that distinction is, this ruling still gives the startling impression that there are two different "classes" involved here...the haves and the have nots, if you will...the TeamCC and the not-TeamCC.

I am not arguing against the ruling, but rather the impression that the ruling gives. I do without question believe that there would be more value to the site if these two instances were treated equally (despite the differences in situation), simply so as to NOT give the impression that moderators are allowed to be above the law.

Remember, moderators...perception CAN CREATE reality. And unfortunately, this perception existed before this ruling came down. I relaly think the moderators should reconsider, on those grounds.