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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:10 pm
by ender516
The turtle has surfaced, and I have nudged him. Let us see what entails.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:04 pm
by Raskholnikov
Hilarity?!...

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:51 pm
by ender516
No, hilarity ensues, I think.

Lord, I'm getting punchy.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:56 pm
by MrBenn
The map is now playable for Beta testing ;-)

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:57 pm
by Mikey-T
it's playable!!!!!! :D :D :D

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:14 pm
by Kabanellas
Greeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:16 pm
by pamoa
and the first one is for me

great job

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:25 pm
by Arama86n
About bloody time :D =D>

I promised myself earlier today that I wasn't going to join/start any new games until September (tourney/ clan war excluded). :roll:

Yeah... that plan just went out the window. 8-)

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:36 pm
by Industrial Helix
I've been waiting sooo long to play this map! Congrats Rask and Kab!

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:19 am
by Raskholnikov
Wow! it's actually live! Thanks to everyone who contributed! Let us know please what you think of it....

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:37 am
by danryan
Ummm yeah this one is slightly complex. :)

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:14 pm
by Army of GOD
Haha yay! Finally!

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:32 pm
by phantomzero
I didn't look through the whole thread and I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere in the foundry, but I'd love to see a change to the Territory names that are abbreviated.

For example;

Instead of the territ being listed as "BV" on the map and "Bavaria" in the attack drop down. I would like it to read "BV - Bavaria" in the drop down.

Does that make any sense?

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:56 pm
by Army of GOD
phantomzero wrote:I didn't look through the whole thread and I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere in the foundry, but I'd love to see a change to the Territory names that are abbreviated.

For example;

Instead of the territ being listed as "BV" on the map and "Bavaria" in the attack drop down. I would like it to read "BV - Bavaria" in the drop down.

Does that make any sense?


Ya, kinda like WW2: Europe.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:36 pm
by jefjef
Army of GOD wrote:
phantomzero wrote:I didn't look through the whole thread and I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere in the foundry, but I'd love to see a change to the Territory names that are abbreviated.

For example;

Instead of the territ being listed as "BV" on the map and "Bavaria" in the attack drop down. I would like it to read "BV - Bavaria" in the drop down.

Does that make any sense?


Ya, kinda like WW2: Europe.


Been discussed. Abbreviations were used/required due to available space.

PROBLEM: He (Hessen) tert troops are not in the circle. They are under the battle site sabers.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:53 pm
by phantomzero
jefjef wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
phantomzero wrote:I didn't look through the whole thread and I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere in the foundry, but I'd love to see a change to the Territory names that are abbreviated.

For example;

Instead of the territ being listed as "BV" on the map and "Bavaria" in the attack drop down. I would like it to read "BV - Bavaria" in the drop down.

Does that make any sense?


Ya, kinda like WW2: Europe.


Been discussed. Abbreviations were used/required due to available space.

PROBLEM: He (Hessen) tert troops are not in the circle. They are under the battle site sabers.


I'm fine with the abbreviations on the map. I know they are required on many maps due to design and long names. What I'm asking about is that the Deploy/Attack/Fort drop downs list "He - Hessen" instead of just "Hessen". It would be much easier to Deploy/Attack/Fort without referring to the chart to see which is which.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:55 pm
by phantomzero
jefjef wrote:PROBLEM: He (Hessen) tert troops are not in the circle. They are under the battle site sabers.


This is only a problem on the small map, the large map doesn't have this issue.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:05 pm
by Kabanellas
phantomzero wrote:I'm fine with the abbreviations on the map. I know they are required on many maps due to design and long names. What I'm asking about is that the Deploy/Attack/Fort drop downs list "He - Hessen" instead of just "Hessen". It would be much easier to Deploy/Attack/Fort without referring to the chart to see which is which.



Actually that would make sense and make everything easier... do you see any problems in doing this Ender?

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:35 pm
by ender516
Provided there are no limits to the length of the territory names in the XML, I see no problem with incorporating the abbreviations into them as prefixes.

The correction to the small map coordinates for Hessen is a simple matter as well. I'm not sure how we missed that after all the fiddling we did.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:33 pm
by phantomzero
the Europa map puts them after the name. example. Albania (ALB)

I'm fine with either way as long as I don't need to consult the legend on the map every time.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:26 pm
by Industrial Helix
I want to say that I love how the XML tells the battle and date, a very nice touch and it really conveys the history in the map.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:30 pm
by Kabanellas
I think that Malta starting neutral troops should be reduced to 1. No point in letting it act as a wall of protection to the player starting in Sicily.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:31 pm
by isaiah40
ender516 wrote:Provided there are no limits to the length of the territory names in the XML, I see no problem with incorporating the abbreviations into them as prefixes.

The correction to the small map coordinates for Hessen is a simple matter as well. I'm not sure how we missed that after all the fiddling we did.


My Fractured America map has for example PEI - Prince Edward Island in the XML, so I don't think there will be a problem.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:44 pm
by ender516
Industrial Helix wrote:I want to say that I love how the XML tells the battle and date, a very nice touch and it really conveys the history in the map.


Yes, I like it too. That was the intent, and I believe it was Rask's idea (might have been Kab's, but I can't claim it as mine).

isaiah40 wrote:
ender516 wrote:Provided there are no limits to the length of the territory names in the XML, I see no problem with incorporating the abbreviations into them as prefixes.

The correction to the small map coordinates for Hessen is a simple matter as well. I'm not sure how we missed that after all the fiddling we did.


My Fractured America map has for example PEI - Prince Edward Island in the XML, so I don't think there will be a problem.

Well, the names get even longer here. I think the worst case using an abbreviation is Extremadura, which I will use as my example below.

I am of two minds about where to put the abbreviations. I'd like to put them after the name and in parentheses, but they may be more useful before the name as a key. I'd propose a choice between these two forms:
  1. Extremadura (Badajoz, March 1812) [Ex]
  2. Ex: Extremadura (Badajoz, March 1812)
Looking at them here, I am inclined to the second one, otherwise the user will have difficulty finding the abbreviation he or she is seeking.

Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 39/43 [Gp,Gr,XML,BETA]

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:46 pm
by Kabanellas
Industrial Helix wrote:I want to say that I love how the XML tells the battle and date, a very nice touch and it really conveys the history in the map.


All Rask's idea here - and a great one indeed :)