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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.5 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:30 pm
by isaiah40
Looks great!!
I'd say no more tweaking. Let's get this done!!
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.5 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:46 pm
by porkenbeans
The map is awesome !
The sun layer on the large version, seems to have a bevel and drop shadow going on. Neither is needed imho.
I am with the majority, ...STICK A FORK IN.

Can we see an 888 test ?
Just one more thing, The drop shadow on the Islands might look better if the distance was changed from 0 to 1, 2, or 3. With he light source coming from the rising sun.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:19 pm
by RedBaron0
Version 13.6
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version136.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version136.jpg[/bigimg]
I do have to adjust some of the coordinates from the XML and I have to figure out a nagging error I keep getting, but the numbers are displaying on the map pretty close or spot on to where they'll go in the end, so you can still see what it'll look like.
Version 13.6
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan888test.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan888test.jpg[/bigimg]
Last little tweaks made.(I hope) Only graphical question left might be whether or not I should have army circles or not. I'm leaning towards not, looks better without, and the image colors should be light enough to negate the need.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:33 pm
by porkenbeans
GOOD WORK.
I would vote, NO circles. I do NOT like them to begin with, and only advise using them, if they are needed. They are NOT needed on this map.

Can you do the same drop shadow treatment on the mini-map ?
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:37 pm
by AndyDufresne
Nagaski coordinates probably should be shifted---or the name.
--Andy
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:22 pm
by MrBenn
After a lot of work, I think you're very nearly done

The latest version is the better-looking of the ones I've scanned through very quickly - you made the right decision to drop the added outline.
The only area of concern is probably the bottom right-hand corner; it feels a little clumsy, and could probably add your name (and move the plane) to the top of the list of the other mapmakers you've given a mention to. It's just a little matter of jiggling things around a bit really, to see what looks/feels best...
Other than that, I would urge you to avoid the temptation to fiddle around with anything else too much!
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:04 am
by Peter Gibbons
I really like 13.5! Great work.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:11 am
by RedBaron0
AndyDufresne wrote:Nagaski coordinates probably should be shifted---or the name.
--Andy
Yeah I know, the coordinates will be moved up and over a bit. I moved the name up, if you look at most of the older versions, "Nagasaki" was a little further over and down. I was having a bit of trouble reading it so I moved onto the territory a little more. There are definitely a few coordinates to move, mostly just a few pixels here and there. The Sea of Japan needs to move to the circle, Nagasaki has already been mentioned, Okinawa on the large map. Nothing serious, and a focus for the Forge...
The little things shall be fixed up tomorrow, I'm beat.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:33 am
by pamoa
AndyDufresne wrote:Nagaski coordinates probably should be shifted---or the name.
RedBaron0 wrote:Yeah I know, the coordinates will be moved up and over a bit. I moved the name up, if you look at most of the older versions, "Nagasaki" was a little further over and down. I was having a bit of trouble reading it so I moved onto the territory a little more. There are definitely a few coordinates to move, mostly just a few pixels here and there. The Sea of Japan needs to move to the circle, Nagasaki has already been mentioned, Okinawa on the large map. Nothing serious, and a focus for the Forge...
The little things shall be fixed up tomorrow, I'm beat.
just try to avoid digits going over a black line border everywhere you can
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.6 (Upd 1-19)pg46 Lucky 13...6
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:16 pm
by RedBaron0
You know.... for all the trouble I've put into coming up with a signature, I think I should just let it go, for now. I've deleted the plane and moved the time stamp(2010) to the very top corner. My name is on the map. The kanji text in the stamp, 赤い男爵ゼロ translates to "Red Baron Zero" And that works for me. Moved the compass a little bit one of the little burn marks in the parchment was interfering with it.

pamoa wrote:just try to avoid digits going over a black line border everywhere you can
Where ever I can, some spots it'll be unavoidable, but I'll minimize it as much as possible.
Version 13.8
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version138.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version138.jpg[/bigimg]
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:35 pm
by porkenbeans
Can you put the English translation next to your sig ? like this, but in the correct font ?
[bigimg]http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/porkenbeans/bigjapan-version138copy.png[/bigimg]
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:05 pm
by RedBaron0
That'll throw the stamp out of balance. Does my name
really need to be in English?
by the way you spelled "Baron" wrong...

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:23 pm
by natty dread
Does my name really need to be in English?
No, I don't think so. The japanese signature is sufficient IMO. Not many can read it, but hey... it's your choice.
Anyway, if you want people to be able to tell who made the map, put your name in english in some corner, but not in the stamp...
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:24 pm
by AndyDufresne
natty_dread wrote:Does my name really need to be in English?
No, I don't think so. The japanese signature is sufficient IMO. Not many can read it, but hey... it's your choice.
Anyway, if you want people to be able to tell who made the map, put your name in english in some corner, but not in the stamp...
Thumbs up for these ideas.
--Andy
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:30 pm
by porkenbeans
It IS your call of coarse, but only a very small number of people will be able to read, and know who made this map, if you do not put it in English, ...somewhere.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:47 pm
by AndyDufresne
Sometimes no, or hidden signatures, are the best.

--Andy
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:56 pm
by RedBaron0
I'm good with that.
Who do I have to bug to get a stamp then? oh... right.

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...8
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:05 pm
by MrBenn
You could always add "redbaron0" in red text beneath the red border of the stamp - right align it (or extend it slightly beyond alignment with the right edge. That way you would have continuity between the stamp and the list of people you've thanked... It just seems odd that those people will be more recognisable than the mapmaker
I may still have a graphics stamp lying around somewhere...... I'll have to go and dig it out

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...9
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:57 pm
by RedBaron0
Version 13.9
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version139.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version139.jpg[/bigimg]
Alright my name is on the map, again.

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V13.8 (Upd 1-19)pg48 Lucky 13...9
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:14 pm
by ender516
So you're keeping the one circle for the Sea of Japan? Do we really need it? Now that it is the only one, it looks a bit like someone attacked the map with a paper punch. With the number between the label and the junk, it should be clear what it is for.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V14.0 (Upd 1-20)pg48 Lucky 13...9
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:41 pm
by RedBaron0
That can get dropped off I guess.
Version 14.0
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version140.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version140.jpg[/bigimg]
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V14.0 (Upd 1-20)pg49 Smells like ink!
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:13 am
by natty dread
Stop working on it now! It's perfect! Quench!
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V14.0 (Upd 1-20)pg49 Smells like ink!
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:54 pm
by AndyDufresne
Scrap it all! Scrap it!
I kid. Terrific work.
--Andy
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V14.0 (Upd 1-20)pg49 Smells like ink!
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:34 pm
by ender516
AndyDufresne wrote:Scrap it all! Scrap it!
I kid. Terrific work.
--Andy
We kid because we love.
You've been a great audience. I'm here all week. Try the veal, and tip your waitress.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V14.0 (Upd 1-20)pg49 Smells like ink!
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:03 pm
by RedBaron0
Version 14.1
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/smalljapan10.jpg[/bigimg]
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/BigJapan10.jpg[/bigimg]
