Conquer Club

Clive is dead, let's not try to change that. The mod made a mistake, it happens.

gimpy the mod wrote:skoffin (9 ) - koesen, skoffin, serbia, Voldemort, Roger Dodger, clive, russianfire, nagerous, crab

This is the biggest skiffin banwagon I could find. There might be suspects in here.

browng-08 wrote:

gimpy the mod wrote:skoffin (9 ) - koesen, skoffin, serbia, Voldemort, Roger Dodger, clive, russianfire, nagerous, crab

This is the biggest skoffin bandwagon I could find. There might be suspects in here.

Non-suspects removed.

clive (13) - f1fth, lalaland, kwanton, talapus, LSU, crab, diddle, browng, kalish/SL, willis, Iliad, skoffin, f1fth

skoffin (9 ) - koesen, skoffin, serbia, Voldemort, Roger Dodger, clive, russianfire, nagerous, crab

So looking at this, it appears no one was on both the final stages of the wagon. However some people did hop off before it reached it's peak.

Also Roger dodger should not been removed from 'suspects list' Brown, even though she was replaced she was in no way proven to be innocent beyond doubt.
And wasn't there a earlier bandwagon on another player? And the roll on Lala should be looked at also.

skoffins bandwagon was to get her active if i remember correctly.(give me a break i was in hospital for a week)
with the excption of rd and clive everyone on that bandwagon is an experienced player. well thats why my vote is on her. my unvote would have came but like i said i was in hospital.

I wish I had double vote powers. And you could even kinda spin it to fit my role.

Anyway, I think there's something to be said about how rapid Skoff was BW'd, and the likelihood we might catch scum somewhere there. But we shouldn't narrow our sights. It's also likely, (perhaps less so, but still a chance) that there be scum on the Clive bandwagon, even if he was lynched for a better reason.

F1fth wrote:I wish I had double vote powers. And you could even kinda spin it to fit my role.

Anyway, I think there's something to be said about how rapid Skoff was BW'd, and the likelihood we might catch scum somewhere there. But we shouldn't narrow our sights. It's also likely, (perhaps less so, but still a chance) that there be scum on the Clive bandwagon, even if he was lynched for a better reason.

Of course. We need to look at the bth of them, and find anyone who seems fo have a suspicious involvement with either/both of them.

Assuming skoffin is really town, the mafia would know that both bandwagons are on townies. One is on clive, who was playing horribly scummy and already claimed one of the least useful roles you can think of. The other wagon is on skoffin, who is a decent player and most likely has a far more useful role than clive has. Who would you try to get lynched?

I'd say we're more likely to find scum on the skoffin wagon than on that of clive.

But we know Clive was town, right? We don't know the same thing about Skoffin, do we?

Will post something worthwhile after 10 hours, pretty tired right now. And a bit lazy too, 48 pages

Anarkistsdream wrote:But we know Clive was town, right? We don't know the same thing about Skoffin, do we?

I am pretty sure she is town(won't say more)


Did we have any other bw?

Iliad wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:But we know Clive was town, right? We don't know the same thing about Skoffin, do we?

I am pretty sure she is town(won't say more)


Did we have any other bw?

No... A few tried to get started up but stopped after two or three votes.

So we gotta work with what we have

I think we should be looking specifically at the Skoffin and Fircoal bandwagons, more than the Clive one.

Serbia wrote:I think we should be looking specifically at the Skoffin and Fircoal bandwagons, more than the Clive one.

the fircoal one was just for fun bandwagon. Maybe there was scum hopping on it but I doubt you can draw a lot of evidence from the fircoal bandwagon

Ya, who doesn't want to lynch the chu. Let's focus on the Skoffin one for now and see where it gets us. Oddly though, many players have yet to post.

Well, I don't regret my participation in the Skoffin bandwagon. My reason for voting her was as good as any Day One logic.

Although I now lean to the belief that she is what she says she is, there is no solid proof that is publicly known. I still think it's odd she had several unwavering champions.

I have no particular suspicion of any of the people on the Skoffin bandwagon (which doesn't mean I'm sure they're all town - just that I see no reason to change my vote for now).

Koesen wrote:Well, I don't regret my participation in the Skoffin bandwagon. My reason for voting her was as good as any Day One logic.

Although I now lean to the belief that she is what she says she is, there is no solid proof that is publicly known. I still think it's odd she had several unwavering champions.

I have no particular suspicion of any of the people on the Skoffin bandwagon (which doesn't mean I'm sure they're all town - just that I see no reason to change my vote for now).

What's also odd is how some people were so resolute in lynching Skoffin when the only evidence against her was pointed out to be blatant Day One Logic.

What I also find odd is that after so many people post about how likely it is that the Skoffin BW contains several scum, you blow off the fact, voicing your lack of suspicion of any of them (which would include you), and try to divert attention elsewhere.



FOS Koesen

Your blatant day one logic is a non argument, since nobody ever pretended there was solid proof against Skoffin and none of the other things that happened yesterday rose above that level (apart from the temporary doubt about Fircoal, but that was based on an error).

I'm not diverting anything. If people want to vote me for the way I went after Skoffin, go ahead. I already explained my reasoning and I still stand by it. Up to her claim, she didn't contribute in any way, shape or form to the game, and even after that it was fairly shoddy. She claimed a role that she refuses to explain and the next day claimed she misused it and didn't get any kind of information. If it weren't for her name claim (and, to a lesser extent, Iliad's vague remark), I'd still suspect her.

There was absolutely no reason for the blind faith in her that several people, including you, displayed, and that's why I am more suspicious of those who went out of their way to stop the Skoffin bandwagon than those who were on it.

OMGUS fos on F1fth

I think f1fth is making more sense than koesen. It looks like you're trying to protect yourself and likely one or two other summers on a skoffin BW.

vote Koesen

As I said, if you want to vote me, vote me. I take nothing back.

I've prodded some of the inactives. unfortunately i'll be needing some replacements. Kalish wanted in but i'm not sure since he would already know a players role. objections? or player suggestions?

It's probably best you don't let him in... Otherwise it's easy to guess at SL's role, in a way.

yay we have something happening.

While what koesen is saying doesn't sound scummy I do think 5th has more reason behind him

Serbia wrote:It's probably best you don't let him in... Otherwise it's easy to guess at SL's role, in a way.

that's what i'm thinking. what about Clive?

if ya'll can wrangle up some cocksuckers to join this here rodeo i'd appreciate it.